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Mac OS X 10.3.6 Update Now Available

iMeowbot said:
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Additionally, a paper entitled The Rise of "Worse is Better" offers a more succinct explanation of why Unix is a virus...
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Enjoyed that, it's nice to see an aknowledgement that we have all finally given up on truly designing software to solve problems and now are stuck with a process more closely resembling evolution.

Evolution can not easily recapitulate on earlier decisions/forks, so evolution works within these preset limitations in the dna codebase to hack up 'near enough 'solutions to ongoing problems using whatever flexibility still exists.

These solutions are usually sub-optimal but functional in practice.

Sounds like application design in 2004.
 
PowermacG5 said:
My install got to about 80 percent and crashed. Hold power button for 5 seconds in all the lanquages. Rebooted and it said i had the new version.
should i worry about it?
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i had the same thing!

should i also worry about it???
 
neonart said:
I'm always intrigued by the large amount of people with weird problems. I wonder if these are people who never repair permissions, have tons of mods and hacks, or install every demo and piece of freeware they can find? Then once an update comes along and shuffles things around they get these problems.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Before updates 1) Make shure you dont have any weird hacks running. 2) Repair disk permissions 3) If you have a particularly picky machine, restart and then run Software Update all by itself.

It's not that I don't belive that some have issues, but I've never had a problem with any update and constantly see so many have problems with every update.

May your Macs live long and prosper :D
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Me as well - I have honestly never had one problem with an update either - and you are right, I never install a bunch of junk on my system or forget to repair permissions...
 
Randon Freezing

My iMac G4 1ghz, now has had three random freezes, clock stopped, mouse active, nothing clickable. This has never happened with 10.3.5 or earlier, this is a very unwelcome into of instability in a system which up-to now had been rock solid.
 
heaven said:
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I was wondering about this myself. The current version is 1.2.3.
 
No problems... no hassle.

I had no problems updating... and i'm running shapeshifter, fruitmenu, windoshade, asm, menu meters, iclock, silk, synergy, popcharacter, xsounds, and labelsX
 
iMeowbot said:
If you haven't been exposed to real industrial-strength operating systems, it's understandable that you would be at a loss to understand. A book (free download even) is out there explaining the situation pretty well (yes, the author now works at MS, but was working on real computers at the time the book was written).

Additionally, a paper entitled The Rise of "Worse is Better" offers a more succinct explanation of why Unix is a virus.
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That's an interesting way to put it. I'd like to hear what operating systems you consider "Industrial Strength". How many of those OSes have open-source implementations?

I dare say that I completely agree with the second reference. To do something the "MIT" or "Correct" way means that you'll never get a solution that solves all the problems, because the design is nigh-near impossible to perfect. I know a few architects at my job that are like that. They have no concept of the user experience.

In my opinion, UNIX is the perfect compromise: Its not overwraught and encumbered and on a given set of hardware, provides better interactive response for its users. Something that its competition doesn't. (witness Windows NT/2000/XP and their old uncle VMS).

The IBM mainframe OS(es) are cool, but have that whole "usability" issue. As a transaction processing environment, they rule. I'd not have it any other way, just don't try and write software in a heap-centric language like C or C++, you'll not be pleased with the performance, as dynamic memory allocation is not what they excel at.

I'll stop rambling now... I've not met many people who didin't like UNIX after they actually used it, and am interested in hearing what they DO like...
 
reckless_0001 said:
absolutely no problems here, on 1 iBook, 2 Powermacs and 1 Cube.

what's with all the negative for this thread?

:rolleyes:
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People who attribute a result to a perceived cause, because they don't recognise the real cause (it's easy to say "OMG Apple b0rkd my 'puter").

In other words, Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

No problems on 65 G5's & PowerBooks, company-wide.

The name-resolution problem is being discussed on MacInTouch and in various Apple forums, and is a result of updates to the global root nameservers. It's not a Safari problem, and this update contains nothing that will address it (/usr/sbin/bind).

What's included in this update is NO MYSTERY. Download the updater for your system, go through the installation process ONLY up to the point of having clicked 'Agree' on the licence. Then do File --> Show Files and peruse the list of what's in the updater.
 
repairing permission

~Shard~ said:
Me as well - I have honestly never had one problem with an update either - and you are right, I never install a bunch of junk on my system or forget to repair permissions...
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I was successfully updating my Cube from 10.0 -> 10.1 -> 10.2 -> 10.3 through all updates
I never did archive install
I never did repair permissions
I never had any problem

I never install any weird or unknown applications/drivers/extensions
 
Update works well on 600mhz iBook

My iBook is noticeably faster with Safari and with accessing files on my file/print server (running OS 10.2.something). I repaired permissions after the install and holy &^%^! I had a massive number of repaired things for IE (which I hardly ever use). Anyway, scrolling in safari is MUCH faster and smoother. In addition, I can access the directory of my external firewire drive over a network much more quickly as well. I love updates like this! :)



Isaac
 
iMeowbot said:
If you haven't been exposed to real industrial-strength operating systems, it's understandable that you would be at a loss to understand. A book (free download even) is out there explaining the situation pretty well (yes, the author now works at MS, but was working on real computers at the time the book was written).
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Religious arguments like this are basically unresolvable. You are free to say and believe whatever you want. I am free to disagree with you. Given that various flavors of Unix are used for all sorts of very important tasks - all the root DNS servers on the internet, the vast majority of Web servers on the internet, etc. - it is obvious that a very large number of knowledgeable people are of the same mind I am. You are free to fault their choices, of course.

Having said that, I will download and read the book. The author's notes admit that it is "over the top", and a lot of times that makes for a fun read.
 
I’ve never had problems with updates before, but since updating I’m unable to play QT movie content through any of my browsers (Safari, EI and Netscape). I’ve repaired permissions (twice) with nothing showing up to repair, deleted the PLIST files for both QT and Safari and now reinstalled both. Still no luck, the browser just comes up with the broken icon displayed.
Anyone else having the same problem or can point me in the right direction? Running G4 iMac 800, 10.3.6, QT 6.5.2 Pro – No hacks or non-apple software except Office X.

BTW. Works OK on another user Account on same machine :confused:
 
I just upgraded from 7R27 to 7R28, and everything went smoothly on my machine. AirPort seems to be more reliable now, but other than that, I haven't seen any difference. Good luck to those of you with problems.
-Chase
 
JamSoft said:
I have to say that after updating to 10.3.6 using Software Update I've had nothing but problems on my dual 2.5 G5 w/ Nvidia 6800 Ultra graphics card.
(1) My Lacie Big Disk Extreme 500GB connected via FW800 failed to mount on the desktop or show up in Disk Utility upon initial reboot from update. Even logging out and back in didn't solve the problem. The weird thing though was that I was able to play all of my music from itunes even though the entire music library is stored on the the Lacie HD. Powering the HD on and off also didn't fix the problem. It finally mounted after I rebooted.

(2) When copying and pasting links from Dreamweaver MX into Safari's URL field and pressing return, Safari freezes. The G5 revs up and the beach-ball appears until I force Safari to quit. Since I'm an amateur website designer I often do this to check links, but I've never had any issues until now.

(3) Significant increase in noise from internal Hard drives. I'm not sure how updating the OS could affect this, but it's the noise did increased drastically.

(4) fans rev up a lot more often for non-intensive CPU tasks.
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We seem to have exactly the same computer... G5 w/ dual 250's, upgraded vid card, LaCie 500GB disk, etc. I have 2GB ram. Oddly, I have had none of the issues you speak of since the update.
Such strange beasts these things are.
 
zync said:
Has anyone noticed that these updates have the same feeling as those of the Ministry of Plenty in 1984? It's like everything seems to be improving, but you never really notice :)
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It makes me feel like a nutter, but that book is so hard to laugh off. It isn't just Apple, it's like all four Ministries are alive and well in the twenty first century.
 
Well soon after posting my "installed, no problems" status & moaning about the lack of displayed results editing in the calculator (750,000 rather than 750000) I got my first problem.

I had two user sessions active, put the Pbook into sleep mode, lifted the lid to carry on and found every action was like wading through treacle, with the spinning beach ball happening on every action.

I Closed the Pbook lid, waited for the white light to come on and left it for a couple of hours as I went out to watch a firework display. I came back, opened the lid and was confronted with a blue display, no icons, nothing, just blue. I held down the power button to kick the machine off and restarted with no problems.

So far its running fine, but clearly that little episode has made me a little nervous, compounded with a little embarrasment as I was showing a PC friend of mine the Pbook at the time....

Vanilla
 
eek

Did all the usual pre update checks, everything was fine, the update went swimmingly right up until the point where 100% happens and the you see the restart message pop up. This didn't happen, instead I got black screens and on of my Dual 19 CRT monitors with one displaying a Frequency out of range warning. There it sat, all lights on and hard drives spinning until I reset the bugger.

oh well, seems ok now.
 
after saying everything was ok, is it just me who is finding their computer to be slightly sluggish after 10.3.6? i have done all the usual repair permissions etc. possibly a clean install is in order. i have felt like doing one for a while!
 
NEENAHBOY said:
With all the problems everyone's been encountering, I for one wouldn't be surprised if we saw 10.3.6.1 on the horizon in a week or so.
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10.3.6.1? Has there ever been a 10.x.x.x release? I don't think. If there really is a wide spread problem, Apple might either pull 10.3.6 (like they did with the screwed 10.2.8) and re-release a fixed version of 10.3.6.or they will release 10.3.7 shortly. If, however, those problems are isolated, (which seems more likely) they will probably release a separate fix only for troubled configurations.
 
15" PB (1.5ghz)

Downloaded full combo updater
Installed with no problems
Everything seems the same as before

Sweet as a nut :)
 
Why I rated this update negative

iProbot said:
What's up with all the negative rates???? :confused:
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Maybe it's because Safari, Mail, NewsFire, and Adium now crash. I also had the entire machine lock up while using Virtual PC 7. I was running the Safari beta, so maybe that's related? I also notice that .Mac mail hasn't been available since yesterday, even via the web.

I tried to roll back to an older version of Safari and re-install the update, but my system is still hosed. Thank goodness for Firefox and Entourage.

Running a PowerBook G4 1.25 MHz.
 
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