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Mac OS X 10.3.6 Update Now Available
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Quite a good update overall. As usual, Safari hasn't been properly tested. It took me less than a day to find a site where the Javascript goes insanely slow and causes beachballs.
But apart from Safari, Panther is getting really fast and stable now - it is great!
But apart from Safari, Panther is getting really fast and stable now - it is great!
This update worked fine on my 550Mhz TiBook, although I haven't tried to plug in my Firewire HDD yet. 
We'll see what happens when I update my eMac Tuesday.
Good luck to you folks who are having troubles.
We'll see what happens when I update my eMac Tuesday.
Good luck to you folks who are having troubles.
bousozoku said:
Not sure which part you're replying to. If it's the cp example, well... the IBM S/38 and IBM AS/400 (iSeries) CPYF command works the same way as the cp example. I'm pretty sure the IBM S/36 COPYDATA command works the the same as well (but this is really stretching my memory).
nagromme said:
This was really annoying in X.3.5. I used to avoid a reboot by either switching Location or changing the modem driver to something different and then switching back to v92. So far so good in X.3.6 but I'll give it a few days for the real answer.
MacOSXUpdate10.3.6Patch
Good Morning:
OS 10.3.6 is running quite well in my (Summer 2001) G3 iMac 600.
No problems downloading and installing the updater via Software Update into the iMac.
... of course I Repaired Permissions BEFORE and after the update.
=-=
I saved the downloaded file for installation into my 2002 QuickSilver G4-733.
The file that was downloaded and installed for the iMac would not work with the G4.
The filename downloaded: MacOSXUpdate10.3.6Patch.pkg 14mb.
Apple Website:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300080
About the Mac OS X 10.3.6 Update (Delta)
Another Apple website:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25799
Mac OS X: Software update sizes can vary
QUOTE:
The sizes of software updates can vary for computers running Mac OS X 10.3.4 or later. This is a feature of Software Update, which automatically detects the best update for your computer.
Sometimes, Software Update preferences is able to offer a "smaller-sized Delta" update than you might expect, or smaller than what you might see on other computers installing the same update. The "smaller Delta" updates are offered when some Mac OS X system files can be modified instead of replaced in their entirety. See "Why are some computers not offered a smaller update?" below for more information.
Smaller-sized Software Updates take less time to download and install than regular-sized Delta or Combo updates.
ENDQUOTE.
=-=
Website (in German language/translation via Goggle) discusses the differences in sizes between the "Patch" and the other 10.3.6 updaters.
http://www.maclife.de/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=267449
Apparently, some all-in-wonder computers (including laptops) get the smaller Patch, and that Patch will not load into desktops.
=-=
Later today, I will be dragging the iMac to the Apple Store to use their T-1 to download the 10.3.6 Combo for the G4.
10.3.6 on the iMac makes the iMac fly !!!
=-=
JJ Tiger
2002 QuickSilver G4-733, 10.3.5
(Summer 2001) G3 iMac 600, 10.3.6
PowerMac 6500/250 G3-400, 9.2.2 (bought new in 1998)
Pax said:
Good Morning:
OS 10.3.6 is running quite well in my (Summer 2001) G3 iMac 600.
No problems downloading and installing the updater via Software Update into the iMac.
... of course I Repaired Permissions BEFORE and after the update.
=-=
I saved the downloaded file for installation into my 2002 QuickSilver G4-733.
The file that was downloaded and installed for the iMac would not work with the G4.
The filename downloaded: MacOSXUpdate10.3.6Patch.pkg 14mb.
Apple Website:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300080
About the Mac OS X 10.3.6 Update (Delta)
Another Apple website:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25799
Mac OS X: Software update sizes can vary
QUOTE:
The sizes of software updates can vary for computers running Mac OS X 10.3.4 or later. This is a feature of Software Update, which automatically detects the best update for your computer.
Sometimes, Software Update preferences is able to offer a "smaller-sized Delta" update than you might expect, or smaller than what you might see on other computers installing the same update. The "smaller Delta" updates are offered when some Mac OS X system files can be modified instead of replaced in their entirety. See "Why are some computers not offered a smaller update?" below for more information.
Smaller-sized Software Updates take less time to download and install than regular-sized Delta or Combo updates.
ENDQUOTE.
=-=
Website (in German language/translation via Goggle) discusses the differences in sizes between the "Patch" and the other 10.3.6 updaters.
http://www.maclife.de/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=267449
Apparently, some all-in-wonder computers (including laptops) get the smaller Patch, and that Patch will not load into desktops.
=-=
Later today, I will be dragging the iMac to the Apple Store to use their T-1 to download the 10.3.6 Combo for the G4.
10.3.6 on the iMac makes the iMac fly !!!
=-=
JJ Tiger
2002 QuickSilver G4-733, 10.3.5
(Summer 2001) G3 iMac 600, 10.3.6
PowerMac 6500/250 G3-400, 9.2.2 (bought new in 1998)
I have good news to report about the 10.3.6 update, at least as far as Safari goes - scrolling is smoother now and doesn't jump around like it used to.
My Mac crashed after the update. The restart never restarted, so I had to do a hard reboot. No system problems since then.
I see that my least favorite Safari "feature" (I consider it a bug) is still with us. If you scroll a scolling text box (like the one you type posts in), change to another tab, and change back, the scrolling text box is back at the top.
I see that my least favorite Safari "feature" (I consider it a bug) is still with us. If you scroll a scolling text box (like the one you type posts in), change to another tab, and change back, the scrolling text box is back at the top.
Kernel panics - different varieties
Slightly off-topic but since a couple of you had kernel panics while installing this update, I have a question for you:
There seems to be the high-quality kernel panics where your screen goes black (with the black part, sometimes or even always, starting from the bottom of the screen going up) and a message in several languages pops up, kindly asking you to restart your computer.
And there are the, I presume, nastier ones, where your screen just goes black (usually starting from the bottom as well) and where get a repeat of some cryptic messages like:
Exception state (sv 0x00336230)
pc=0x00092440; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=...; DSIR=...; LR=...; R1=...; XCP=...
Backtrace:
Backtrack terminated - unaligned frame address: 0x003362B8
I had six of these over the last five weeks, always while either using VirtualPC 6 or using the modem.
Slightly off-topic but since a couple of you had kernel panics while installing this update, I have a question for you:
There seems to be the high-quality kernel panics where your screen goes black (with the black part, sometimes or even always, starting from the bottom of the screen going up) and a message in several languages pops up, kindly asking you to restart your computer.
And there are the, I presume, nastier ones, where your screen just goes black (usually starting from the bottom as well) and where get a repeat of some cryptic messages like:
Exception state (sv 0x00336230)
pc=0x00092440; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=...; DSIR=...; LR=...; R1=...; XCP=...
Backtrace:
Backtrack terminated - unaligned frame address: 0x003362B8
I had six of these over the last five weeks, always while either using VirtualPC 6 or using the modem.
X.3.6 New Problems New Fix
Updated a 450MHz Cube and a 20" G5 iMac...both machine installed the updated without a problem, however...X.3.6 seems to have fixed the auto sleep on the Cube and messed up my external firewire 400 drives on my G5 iMac.
Cube fix: since X.3.2 the cube would not go into deep sleep mode as I specified in the system preference panel, only the graphic card would power down (a known problem reported by other Mac users using a variety of Mac systems)... until now the update to X.3.6 it seems to fixed the sleep problem on the Cube.
G5 iMac problem: on one of the iMacs firewire ports I have 4 external firewire 400 drives daisychained, on the other I have an iSight camera. After updating to X.3.6 on the iMac one of the drives would drop its connection to the iMac and hang the machine if I tried to do shutdown, then after this happening several times none of the drives would mount and hang the Mac when booting until I tuned of the drives. Now if more than 1 drive is plugged in (daisychained) the drives will either hang the Mac until turned off or just won't mount unless only one drive is plugged in.
I have checked each drive individually and with several firewire cabels...alone all drives mount fine and checked out OK with disk utilty but as soon as a second drive is thrown into the chain nothing works...before X.3.6 all drives worked fine together.
Updated a 450MHz Cube and a 20" G5 iMac...both machine installed the updated without a problem, however...X.3.6 seems to have fixed the auto sleep on the Cube and messed up my external firewire 400 drives on my G5 iMac.
Cube fix: since X.3.2 the cube would not go into deep sleep mode as I specified in the system preference panel, only the graphic card would power down (a known problem reported by other Mac users using a variety of Mac systems)... until now the update to X.3.6 it seems to fixed the sleep problem on the Cube.
G5 iMac problem: on one of the iMacs firewire ports I have 4 external firewire 400 drives daisychained, on the other I have an iSight camera. After updating to X.3.6 on the iMac one of the drives would drop its connection to the iMac and hang the machine if I tried to do shutdown, then after this happening several times none of the drives would mount and hang the Mac when booting until I tuned of the drives. Now if more than 1 drive is plugged in (daisychained) the drives will either hang the Mac until turned off or just won't mount unless only one drive is plugged in.
I have checked each drive individually and with several firewire cabels...alone all drives mount fine and checked out OK with disk utilty but as soon as a second drive is thrown into the chain nothing works...before X.3.6 all drives worked fine together.
It's been bad luck for all 3 of my comptuers this week.
Frst my Powerbook 12" screen went on the fritz. Thank goodness for AppleCare.
Then my ThinkPad's motherboard died.
Then 10.3.6 came around... and my G4 tower (Dual 867) has been acting weird. EyeTV wasn't working correctly. That required another update. I've suffered 3 crashes thus far. And it doesn't wake from sleep anymore.
Frst my Powerbook 12" screen went on the fritz. Thank goodness for AppleCare.
Then my ThinkPad's motherboard died.
Then 10.3.6 came around... and my G4 tower (Dual 867) has been acting weird. EyeTV wasn't working correctly. That required another update. I've suffered 3 crashes thus far. And it doesn't wake from sleep anymore.
Safari is slooooooowwwww....
After applying this update I have noticed Safari runs really, really slow. I now have to wait between switch tabs. I has gotten so painful I have made Firefox my default browser. I downloaded the Combo updater and tried to update again (perhaps something got borked when I did the System Update install)... however same thing. Anyone else seeing the same problem with the 10.3.6 update?
-john
After applying this update I have noticed Safari runs really, really slow. I now have to wait between switch tabs. I has gotten so painful I have made Firefox my default browser. I downloaded the Combo updater and tried to update again (perhaps something got borked when I did the System Update install)... however same thing. Anyone else seeing the same problem with the 10.3.6 update?
-john
no probs 12" 1.33 ghz powerbook.
tab switching in safari does seem quicker, connecting to my airport network is much quicker. safari still does crash at sites i visit frequently, so i have to use camino/IE to access them, which is annoying.
i have also never had a problem with a system update... i always run disk utility before and after updates, but it probably has more to do with not running any 3rd party widgets or apps that get a bit too deep into the system.
tab switching in safari does seem quicker, connecting to my airport network is much quicker. safari still does crash at sites i visit frequently, so i have to use camino/IE to access them, which is annoying.
i have also never had a problem with a system update... i always run disk utility before and after updates, but it probably has more to do with not running any 3rd party widgets or apps that get a bit too deep into the system.
trance2 said:
What V# of Safari are you using? 1.2 is available for download... but there are many users reporting '10.3.6 broke safari!' - when in reality it is those users were running the safari ADC release of 1.3 beta.
Check your safari version. Anything other than 1.2 should be dumped in favour of the current trusted version.
Haven't noticed much difference between 10.3.5 and 10.3.6, but then I haven't used the system much since I updated.
The only thing whould be that mouting of network drives seems faster. I remember there being a slight delay between pressing OK, and the drive appearing in the Finder window. With 10.3.6 it appears instantly. Or maybe I just remember it wrong.
The only thing whould be that mouting of network drives seems faster. I remember there being a slight delay between pressing OK, and the drive appearing in the Finder window. With 10.3.6 it appears instantly. Or maybe I just remember it wrong.
iMeowbot said:
Um, you've apparently not used a UNIX-based system for all that long if this behaviour surprises you in some way.
It does not matter if you're running on a BSD, SYSV, or Linux-based OS, POSIX standards for usablility dictate that data copied to another object will assume that object's permissions. If you don't like this, you should use the -p option with cp. This forces the source's permissions onto the destination's.
/dale
finder crashing
Just installed, searched the forums to see if anyone else was having this issue since I didn't want to read all 11 pages of this thread.
I'm updating a phpBB theme, changing images in the template directory one at a time. I have the directory open in a finder window, so that I can quickly see in thumbnail view which images have been updated. Every time I save an image to the directory, finder crashes and relaunches itself. I'm not sure what is causing this but my guess is that when a new image is saved, finder creates a new thumbnail image... and in doing so something goes wrong.
Will rebuild permissions, reboot etc.
Just wanted to point this out.
Just installed, searched the forums to see if anyone else was having this issue since I didn't want to read all 11 pages of this thread.
I'm updating a phpBB theme, changing images in the template directory one at a time. I have the directory open in a finder window, so that I can quickly see in thumbnail view which images have been updated. Every time I save an image to the directory, finder crashes and relaunches itself. I'm not sure what is causing this but my guess is that when a new image is saved, finder creates a new thumbnail image... and in doing so something goes wrong.
Will rebuild permissions, reboot etc.
Just wanted to point this out.
greenmonsterman said:
I'm guessing you're using PhotoShop and/or ImageReady. This has always been the case, so unless it didn't happen to you before, no changes in 10.3.6.
-Chase
I'm having issues with this update. I'm constantly having issues connecting to web sites despite having strong signal strength. Also, my computer can't fall asleep as easy as before. I don't know if it needs a computer form of Ambien, but the 10.3.6 update has not done so well on my PB. How can I downgrade to 10.3.5? Thanks!!