Mac OS X 10.3.6 Update Now Available

[Ruslan]

10.3.6 KILLS G4 DUAL/867

1) we have install 10.3.6 on our current 10.3.5
restart -> OPS -> long start, corrupted desktop...
I see that other guys also have THE SAME problem.

2) ok, we have decide make CLEAN INSTALL (!!!) read this (!!!)
CLEAN INSTALL of 10.3 and we have re-format HDD.
After this we have install 10.3.6 COMBO and
after restart we get grey monitor which says on all languages
we need to restart computer.

RESUME: 10.3.6 is DANGER DANGER DANGER !!!!!!!!!!!!
it is not polished.

G4 DUAL/867. There is no any third party hardware.
all native from Apple Inc.

What are you doing guys ?????????????!!!!!!!!

 

[Bern]

No. You are not a "lucky one". Most people have not had problems with the 10.3.6 updater.

I am amazed by the number of whiners who have deliberately screwed up their computers.

Some very loud whiners who fail to accept responsibility for screwing up their computers, and who were hoping that the 10.3.6 update would fix their old mistakes, need something to blame. So they are blaming the updater.

What the heck are you talking about?

Take a look over in the Apple forum and you will see there are many people having problems because of this update. Are you suggesting they are all hackers?

I have no hacks on my iBook and lost firewire. There are quite a few others with the exact same issue as mine.

Some of my posts on the Apple Forum were removed. Why?

 

[uv23]

To make matters worse, Safari is still a POS, just crashed on me for no reason whatsoever in much the same manner as it has hundreds of times previous. This update improved nothing.

 

[phmar]

Safari crashes???

Using it from the first version, on a day by day mode, I'm still waiting for the first crash to happen! Well, not really waiting for, I have IE if I ever needed to

 

[Bern]

I've had three Apple laptops in 6 months. This latest Apple screw up (and their silence) is tempting me to sell the damn thing and get myself a windows laptop.

I use to be a loud advocate of anything Mac, but it seems Apple are leaving their reputation to the wayside. No longer, it seems, we can tout them as being reliable, efficient machines. They are simply laptops and trying to look as windows as possible to tempt the other side over.

I am very disappointed in Apple. IMO the choice is becoming slimmer when deciding which system to buy, they're both as reliable as each other. The difference is one is cheaper to purchase software and peripherals for so when there is a problem you don't feel quite so financially devastated.

 

[uv23]

Using it from the first version, on a day by day mode, I'm still waiting for the first crash to happen! Well, not really waiting for, I have IE if I ever needed to

I bought my powerbook about a year ago, I don't have any custom software or weird hacks or anything. Running stock, so to speak. And safari has probably crashed on me several hundred times total. So on average, once a day. Might be time to switch oveer to firefox now that it's at 1.0.

 

[JJTiger1]

Safari Quits: Solution

To make matters worse, Safari is still a POS, just crashed on me for no reason whatsoever in much the same manner as it has hundreds of times previous. This update improved nothing.

Safari unexpected quits:

trash: com.apple.quicktime.plugin.preferences.plist

and then Safari will be stable for a while.

 

[JJTiger1]

What the heck are you talking about?

Take a look over in the Apple forum and you will see there are many people having problems because of this update. Are you suggesting they are all hackers?

I have no hacks on my iBook and lost firewire. There are quite a few others with the exact same issue as mine.

Some of my posts on the Apple Forum were removed. Why?

1. Yes. They all hacked/messed around with the default filnames and default file locations.

2. Firewire must be done exactly to specifically sequenced procedures. Skip a step and it doesn't work, mix the steps and it doesn't work.

3. You are posting your question to the wrong forum. Again?

 

[wdlove]

1) we have install 10.3.6 on our current 10.3.5
restart -> OPS -> long start, corrupted desktop...
I see that other guys also have THE SAME problem.

2) ok, we have decide make CLEAN INSTALL (!!!) read this (!!!)
CLEAN INSTALL of 10.3 and we have re-format HDD.
After this we have install 10.3.6 COMBO and
after restart we get grey monitor which says on all languages
we need to restart computer.

RESUME: 10.3.6 is DANGER DANGER DANGER !!!!!!!!!!!!
it is not polished.

G4 DUAL/867. There is no any third party hardware.
all native from Apple Inc.

What are you doing guys ?????????????!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. My G4 dual 450 is working like a charm after 10.3.6. Are you able to boot-up the machine from a CD?

 

[wrldwzrd89]

No. You are not a "lucky one". Most people have not had problems with the 10.3.6 updater.

Most people leave well enough alone. If it's not broken, don't fix it. They don't deliberately scramble the default file locations, nor do they change the default file names. They keep the OS language and their paid-for applications language the same. For these people, it's just another update.

To err on the side of caution, these people REPAIR PERMISSIONS before and after applying the updaters.
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I am amazed by the number of whiners who have deliberately screwed up their computers.

Some very loud whiners who fail to accept responsibility for screwing up their computers, and who were hoping that the 10.3.6 update would fix their old mistakes, need something to blame. So they are blaming the updater.

The worst offenders are: hackers who think that they are "Software Developers".
... hackers.
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I didn't have any problems with the first 10.2.8 updater, nor have I had problems with any of the 10.3.x updaters.
... disappointments yes, problems no.
=-=
A successful update requires that the files that will be updatered are located where the updater is expecting to find the files, and that the files still retain their original names.
... Defaults.

Manually scattering the files across partitions, manually re-naming files, manually mixing old with new or new with old OS files, manually mixing multiple foreign language OS files and app's,...
... because you can, not because it's required: is shear folly.

The only files I mess with are my personal Documents, in the Documents folder.

I figure that some smart engineers at Apple wanted the OS files and the Applications files in certain locations for a reason.

Updaters might have been one of those reasons.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
=-=
.. and now back to whining about when Apple will release a G5 laptop

Thanks for that JJTiger1. I was not aware that I had no problems simply because I haven't tinkered with my system, and those that did have problems probably did. The only change I've made is turned my iTunes folder into a symbolic link to a folder on an external FAT32 drive.

 

[lalcan]

For the record, my iBook G3 800 has worked flawlessly since the update, the way it has worked since i purchased she.

 

[jackieonasses]

I've had three Apple laptops in 6 months. This latest Apple screw up (and their silence) is tempting me to sell the damn thing and get myself a windows laptop.

I use to be a loud advocate of anything Mac, but it seems Apple are leaving their reputation to the wayside. No longer, it seems, we can tout them as being reliable, efficient machines. They are simply laptops and trying to look as windows as possible to tempt the other side over.

I am very disappointed in Apple. IMO the choice is becoming slimmer when deciding which system to buy, they're both as reliable as each other. The difference is one is cheaper to purchase software and peripherals for so when there is a problem you don't feel quite so financially devastated.

<angry person> If you are that easily swayed into switching to a Windows-based laptop just because you are in the 7% <-- (made that up) of people. I have 2 apples myself. I work with about 15....ALL of which are running flawlessly. And what about viruses/virri? You are talking about reliable, efficient machines.... but on my windows lappy, i am scared to even use it around my parents (because of the porn pop-ups) That computer doesn't even touch the internet anymore. Really, sir. if it is a problem, Apple will fix it. </angry person>

 

[Bern]

For the record I took my iBook into my local Applecentre Tech and when I told him I had lost firewire after the 10.3.6 he told me that I was the 15th this week to come in with the same issue.

He said he knows how to fix it and that indeed there is nothing wrong with my hardware. He said he could get it back to me today, but I decided to upgrade the hard dive to 60gig so they'll have it for a few days.

Clearly there is an issue with this update (like a previous one).

 

[Bern]

1. Yes. They all hacked/messed around with the default filnames and default file locations.

2. Firewire must be done exactly to specifically sequenced procedures. Skip a step and it doesn't work, mix the steps and it doesn't work.

3. You are posting your question to the wrong forum. Again?

What do you mean again? I've just joined this forum.

You obviously must be referring to yourself I guess

 

[acrobat]

holy crap!

okay... so i installed the update last week... and it was fine for like two days. no problems at all. then, i woke up one morning and immediately noticed that my hard drive sounded weird. (that buzzing noise people were talking about.) everything was running WAY slow. i shut down and rebooted... that took about an hour. so i went to the Genius Bar at my local Apple Store and was told that i needed to zero out my hard drive and completely reinstall. (luckily, i'd backed up.) so i did all of that and, not realizing that it had anything to do with the update, ran all the software updates again (stupid!). again... two days of fine workin'... then this morning... the buzzing again... the spinning beach ball... the incredible freezes... the horror. yeah... it's back. someone help me!!!!!!!!

-the acrobat

 

[Bern]

okay... so i installed the update last week... and it was fine for like two days. no problems at all. then, i woke up one morning and immediately noticed that my hard drive sounded weird. (that buzzing noise people were talking about.) everything was running WAY slow. i shut down and rebooted... that took about an hour. so i went to the Genius Bar at my local Apple Store and was told that i needed to zero out my hard drive and completely reinstall. (luckily, i'd backed up.) so i did all of that and, not realizing that it had anything to do with the update, ran all the software updates again (stupid!). again... two days of fine workin'... then this morning... the buzzing again... the spinning beach ball... the incredible freezes... the horror. yeah... it's back. someone help me!!!!!!!!

-the acrobat

What ever you do don't post anything over at the Apple Forums. The moderator has been very busy heavily editing or removing negative posts concerning this update, which is raising the shackles of a lot of people.

I contacted Apple and they sent me a program to capture my machine's data. At this point they tell me they haven't analysed the results yet, but when I receive their feedback I will post here (as everytime I post over at the Apple Forum it is either edited or removed like many other people's. So much for freedom of speech).

As an extra measure I took my machine to my local Apple Tech who seems to be familiar with this problem (he has had 15 of the same this week). I will also post his findings here.

 

[aswitcher]

What ever you do don't post anything over at the Apple Forums. The moderator has been very busy heavily editing or removing negative posts concerning this update, which is raising the shackles of a lot of people.

I contacted Apple and they sent me a program to capture my machine's data. At this point they tell me they haven't analysed the results yet, but when I receive their feedback I will post here (as everytime I post over at the Apple Forum it is either edited or removed like many other people's. So much for freedom of speech).

As an extra measure I took my machine to my local Apple Tech who seems to be familiar with this problem (he has had 15 of the same this week). I will also post his findings here.

Bern, is this problem related to the specs of the hardware?

 

[Bern]

Bern, is this problem related to the specs of the hardware?

I am yet to find out, but judging by the posts on the Apple Forum it seems to be fairly wide spread.

I have a G3 here as well which has not suffered from the update, however a friend has an old G4 desktop which has.

It seems that Bluetooth is also being knowcked out as posts to this issue have started to emerge.

 

[aswitcher]

I am yet to find out, but judging by the posts on the Apple Forum it seems to be fairly wide spread.

I have a G3 here as well which has not suffered from the update, however a friend has an old G4 desktop which has.

It seems that Bluetooth is also being knowcked out as posts to this issue have started to emerge.

I can personally attest to BT problems. My Palm will no longer reliably synch with my PB since the update. It always crashes...

 

[cb911]

wow, i'm surprised to hear of all the problems...

but i just noticed something yesterday... the Log-in Panel. does it seem different to anyone in the way that i behaves?

for instance, when you click on a User name, or icon, the way that it moves to show the password field. seems different than before, alot smoother in it's movement.

just a small thing that i think i noticed. looks good, nice improvement.

 

[syntrophy]

i'm on the ibook g4 933 and updated with absolutely no problem at all =) safari is indeed zippier

what could be the problem? quite unlike apple

 

[syntrophy]

Don't worry - you're fully updated. You're just not "prebound", which is what "optimizing" does. Prebinding is defined as follows:

prebinding: defining the path to external files an application needs to start before starting the application; used to decrease starting time for an application.

Run the following command in Terminal to fix your prebindings:

update_prebinding -root /

EDIT: Your Safari version is normal for a proper 10.3.6 installation. Mine is also 1.2.4 (v125.11).

hey i did the prebinding think and i was told 5 files was successfully prebound, and 63 unsuccessfully prebound, is there anything i can do or i can jus leave it alone?

 

[wrldwzrd89]

hey i did the prebinding think and i was told 5 files was successfully prebound, and 63 unsuccessfully prebound, is there anything i can do or i can jus leave it alone?

You need not worry about the ones that couldn't be prebound - in most cases there's nothing you can do about it.

For the programs that failed because "larger load commands would not fit", unless you have access to the source code, you can't fix it - this I know.

 

[Stinkysteve]

This thread was an interesting read.

I think I may just sit this update out for a while.

I have an iBook G4 12" 800
G4 400 Sawtooth and a Pismo running 9.2 only....

The iBook has the Monitor sapnning hack and an external FW HD.

 

[wdlove]

This thread was an interesting read.

I think I may just sit this update out for a while.

I have an iBook G4 12" 800
G4 400 Sawtooth and a Pismo running 9.2 only....

The iBook has the Monitor sapnning hack and an external FW HD.

I have similar Mac's to yours. When I changed to X this past January, thought that I was among the last. May I ask your reasoning for still only running 9.2.2. After I changed to X and got my programs over to X then I never looked back.