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mcdermd said:
While maybe there are not any true speed improvements, the UI benefits greatly from the QE over PCI hack. The only time you may notice it as a detrement is if you're gaming. The proof is actually in using it yourself. Choppy Expose, smooth Expose. Night and day.

So, I really don't care about the actual framerates, the perceived smoothness is all that matters on that machine.

No, I understand what you are saying I have a B/W G3. The issue isn't just game play but anytime you are doing heavy CPU tasks as well. It can slow CPU and GPU intensive tasks down by half.
 
IJ Reilly said:
All I can say is, Apple better release Tiger soon. They're running out of mathematical room for fractional updates for 10.3!

You are assuming that they are counting the updates on base10 system. They could be using hexadecimal versioning... you know .8 .9 .a .b .c ... .f

:D
 
I may have spoken too soon about the memory leak from 10.3.6 being gone. I'm at 1.2 GB in use with most of it being inactive memory.

However, I've noticed that the virtual memory hit percentage is 95 per cent--a record, that. It used to be anywhere from 15 to 75 percent by this time.
 
All is going well, EXCEPT I STILL have DHCP dropouts. I have to change to BootP and back to DHCP if my G5 goes to sleep.
 
MacBandit said:
No, I understand what you are saying I have a B/W G3. The issue isn't just game play but anytime you are doing heavy CPU tasks as well. It can slow CPU and GPU intensive tasks down by half.

Which is why I have a PB G4 1.25ghz/1.25gb and a dual G4 500mhz/1gb for the heavier lifting. The B&W is basically a just a web machine for me (and the Classic II is just a networked toy :D ).
 
update issue

does anyone else have problems with playing some .avi files after they did the update???????



G4 PB 1Gz 60gb
 
mail MUCH slower since update

Ok, haven't had time to go through all 11 pages so far (read about half of them). Mail is working incredibly slow! Only one bounce but then take about 20 seconds before ANYTHING appears! I mean even clicking on the mail icon in the dock doesn't bring up the mail menu items.

Any suggestions or other people with this problem? And yes, I did repair permissions.

Other things to note, web pages load slower in both safari and camino. I feel like I am running 10.1.5 - this sucks!
 
macnews said:
Ok, haven't had time to go through all 11 pages so far (read about half of them). Mail is working incredibly slow! Only one bounce but then take about 20 seconds before ANYTHING appears! I mean even clicking on the mail icon in the dock doesn't bring up the mail menu items.

Any suggestions or other people with this problem? And yes, I did repair permissions.

Other things to note, web pages load slower in both safari and camino. I feel like I am running 10.1.5 - this sucks!

yeah i get a simialr problem on my 1.33 12" powerbook. time to get more memory? (i have 256)
 
Need some real help!

RAM isn't the answer for me. I have 1.5 GB on a Dual 1 Ghz G4 and Mail takes 1-2 Minutes! I'm not kidding, I counted. Let me explain what I did and see out there if anyone can help. Started Repairing permisions, Installed "delta" update, restarted then Repaired again(nothing was out of whack by the way). Mail and Omniweb take an excruciatingly long time to load so I shut down and ran a little Diskwarrior. Restarted. same thing. Ran the full blown Cocktail ritual including all caches and prebinding. Restarted again. No change. I downloaded the combo update and installed that with all the regular restarts and repairs. no change. Then I reinstalled the Mail.app with Pacifist from the install CD's and repaired permissions again. No freakin' change. I gave up and figuered that Mail and onmi must share similar frameworks that were bugged out in the new update. If anyone can add anything I'm all ears. If this sound a little snippy its cause It has sucked a good 3 hours out of my day. Thanks!
 
symptom said:
RAM isn't the answer for me. I have 1.5 GB on a Dual 1 Ghz G4 and Mail takes 1-2 Minutes! I'm not kidding, I counted. Let me explain what I did and see out there if anyone can help. Started Repairing permisions, Installed "delta" update, restarted then Repaired again(nothing was out of whack by the way). Mail and Omniweb take an excruciatingly long time to load so I shut down and ran a little Diskwarrior. Restarted. same thing. Ran the full blown Cocktail ritual including all caches and prebinding. Restarted again. No change. I downloaded the combo update and installed that with all the regular restarts and repairs. no change. Then I reinstalled the Mail.app with Pacifist from the install CD's and repaired permissions again. No freakin' change. I gave up and figuered that Mail and onmi must share similar frameworks that were bugged out in the new update. If anyone can add anything I'm all ears. If this sound a little snippy its cause It has sucked a good 3 hours out of my day. Thanks!
I think something might be goofed up in ~/Library/Mail. Your mailboxes are located there, as are various other Mail-specific files. Try quitting Mail, moving that folder elsewhere, and relaunching Mail. If it now comes up immediately, something inside there is messed up. Some trial and error will eventually find the offending file(s) - I don't know of any other good method.
 
Almost thought That was it

Supercool wrldwzrd89 got back so soon but alas this did not help. I also have done various degrees of deleting .plists and app supports to no avail. The brain is pulsing. Bring on the Cocoa coders.
 
Doing this update has definately made my heart skip a few beats! The installer seemed to go successfully and I pressed Restart at the end of it when it asked me to. But the system hung on a grey screen with a rotating circle (that kept rotating) so I gave it 10 minutes but it still didn't restart.

In the end I powered it down by holding the power button until it turned off and then switched it on again. That time it took ages to start up and take me to the login screen.

But it seems to have updated OK, I get 10.3.7 from About This Mac. And it's restarting and booting properly. But it hanging made me feel a bit scared! :eek:
 
symptom said:
Supercool wrldwzrd89 got back so soon but alas this did not help. I also have done various degrees of deleting .plists and app supports to no avail. The brain is pulsing. Bring on the Cocoa coders.
Sometimes these issues are caused by corrupt fonts, of all things. If you think about it, it's logical, as fonts are used by practically all Mac OS X applications. Any applications that use a corrupt font will experience slowdowns loading that font.
 
I don't know about anyone else, but both my powerbook and Quicksilver have been having problems with pointing devices (mouse/touchpad) after the update. It is strange, the cursor just stops working.
 
SlowDown 10.3.7

musser said:
Is ANYone else experiencing very slow boot-ups with 10.3.7?

It's literally something like 5 minutes to boot up.

I'm on a Dual 1.42 G4.

Thanks.

I have this problem too. The menu bar without the background came up first then the dock and then everything else.
Any ideas, what would cause this slow down. (Tried permissions)
Thanks.
Other then that no problems. :)

-Alex
 
My built in BT quit working for a while (the machine said there was no BT hardware) after the update on my G5 imac but after rebooting a couple of times it works fine
 
This install wrought havock for me. I followed all the install advice but on reboot my system was fried. It took hours of booting from external drives and performing every kind of repair to get it working again.

Then this morning, 36 hours after install, my 2 external FW HDs which had been working OK since the update (and were unconnected during upgrade) suddenly refused to mount through several reboots. They are back again now, thank God. No idea why!

This is unacceptable from Apple - I've wasted almost 2 working days on this. They should get these updates sorted, other wise they are causing more problems than they are curing.
 
Noiseboy said:
Thanks for that Stewie.
Has anyone running ProTools LE updated and then tried PT yet? Thats all thats stopping me, this seems to be a very positive update.

ProTools 6.4 LE works fine with my 17" PB and an M-box plus a 002.

Haven't got 6.7 yet.

Logic, Reason, Reaktor and numerous plug-ins all reporting for duty.
 
Well this is a new one for me as I've never had issues with any updates post Jaguar.
Granted I'm running on an old sawtooth but since updating 20 minutes ago I've had Safari quit on me four times, plus all apps take twice as long to open. Suppose my lucks run out, no biggie though, perhaps its time to use a cache cleaning app.
 
MacBandit said:
Do you have an iPod docked to any of those computers?

Yes, I do actually. The cube that is wired into the network has an iPod plugged in. Why do you ask?

All is good now with the manual addresses on my network. (regarding slow login times)

I suppose it is an external firewire drive.
 
macnews said:
Other things to note, web pages load slower in both safari and camino. I feel like I am running 10.1.5 - this sucks!

I don't know what camino is, but on my iMac G5 1.8 Ghz, web pages load slowly now in Safari as well. Everything else seems OK I think, but nothing is "snappier" like others have noted. In fact, I think everything is just a tad slower. But I have no real proof of that. And my machine is about as vanilla as it gets. They only two 3rd Party apps I have are Office and Stuffit.
 
I'm sorry for those of you who have had problems. 10.3.7 has given me a noticeable performance increase over the last update on my G4 Powerbook 1.25ghz/1.25gb RAM - so much so, that I'm actually kind of NERVOUS about upgrading to 10.3.8 when it comes, because I think I'm pretty wholly satisfied with this upgrade.

Granted, I haven't had any real problems in the past, but this is definitely a vast improvement.
 
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