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I really hope this rumor is true. I canceled my mini because of this and all the talk about a 512mb memory boost....
One shouldn't wait and wait forever, but right now seems like a really bad time to buy a mac unless you really need it...
 
I know. :( I'm kind of bummed that I just dished out so much money on a system. I want one of those dual core bad boys and I wish I could have gotten tiger with the system rather then dishing out how much now? Watch there be a price bump on this new operating system.
 
animefan_1 said:
iLife '05 will remain separate.

However, seeing how iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 are on the Panther install CD's, we may see iMovie 4 and iPhoto 4 on the Tiger installation disks.

Not happening because iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3 were completely free, they could be downloaded from Apple's website (versions 4 never were). Second, those versions were the current ones when Panther started shipping in October'03. So, I'm pretty sure Tiger CDs won't include iMovie & iPhoto.
 
Think a lot of people must be cancelling!

Ordered a mini on the 4th March, this was due to ship 2-3 weeks. That's this Friday or the Friday after. In actual fact it shipped yesterday morning. I'm not bothered if Tiger comes out next month, but I would be pissed off if they increase the amount of RAM to 512mb. Since they are likely to update this model JULY/AUGUST I'd rather have it now and pay an upgrade cost next month(hopefully!!)
 
Gil_Grissom said:
Whats the proposed selling price for Tiger when it comes out? The same as Panther?

Also, if it is announced April 1st, and released several weeks later in mid/late april, will that be the time when the hardware will begin shipping with it preinstalled or will that come either slightly earlier or later?? :confused:

....

If this April release date is wrong, (and I really really hope it isnt!!), what will it mean for TS and their sources/reliability?? Will people begin to stop beleiving them?? What you think?

I pressume that when Tiger is packaged pre-installed on hardware it will be on all the hardware across the board?? (Im getting at the mac mini and emac specifically here I guess) I know the whole graphics thing has been covered, and that their are rumours of the imac emac etc upgrades at the same time, but any other reasons why Apple wouldn't?? (Just wondering out of chance!)

So hoping this is true!! Been waiting for ever!! Its all Im waiting for to switch over fully!!

Tiger is expected to cost $129. Same as Panther.

All new hardware that is announced at the same time or after Tiger is announced should have Tiger pre-installed. Or at the least have the update disk in the box.

If TS is wrong, it wouldn't be their first time. They were wrong with the color screens on iPod minis that they said would come in the upcoming update (supposedly the ones we have now). They were also way wrong with the original rumored iPod mini pricing. They were the ones that said 'iPod mini - $99'. Remember what happened when Apple announced it at $249? :rolleyes:

Like I said before, when Tiger is announced, they will preinstall it on all new Macs and should put the updated disk in existing Macs. If you buy a Mac that doesn't have the disk (and fall in to their 'up-to-date' program) you will most likely be able to purchase the update CD for a discounted price (for reference, it was $20 for the Panther up-to-date program).

Referring to your last point: I'm in the same boat. I can't wait for Tiger and I also hope this rumor is true. The only difference is that I'm not a switcher. Enjoy your new Mac! :D
 
fisious said:
Is this a part of Tiger no one has mentioned. Cute, if it exists, but something I think I may get tired of. If it exisits I hope you can turn it off.

Also, what's the finder icon trying to say?

http://homepage.mac.com/woodhams/images/tiger.jpg

I suppose it's slightly less annoying than Safari bouncing out the dock when it can't open a site. Hopefully the speech bubble will disappaer after 10 secs or so.
Any more pics of random little stuff like this?
Also is that a finder window showing music file information? if so yaaay!
 
animefan_1 said:
Actually, I heard that MS's fast search will be in Longhorn. Whether or not it's as good as Spotlight....well MS does have about a year to copy. :D


http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_preview_2005.asp
Under "Work Smarter" - from MS, yeah right. :rolleyes:

Also, MS will supposedly include "stacks", which IIRC Apple has a patent on. :D

I found this on the site...

As with Windows XP SP2, Longhorn will provide strong security warnings and guidance when it detects errant actions. However, Longhorn's warning notifications can occur because of local code as well, and not just because of Internet-based communications, as in XP SP2. The idea is that users will feel safe, and they will be able to undo any action, further strengthening the security aura.

Sounds good then! Not actually much safer - but makes you feel safer. or possibly more paranoid. There's also a load of features there that have been in Mac OS for years; Hot patching, Instant On etc. and, bless it recovers more reliably from crashing. I can't wait. Also their version of limited root access sounds a bit crap - maybe it's just the description, but hey.

Gotta get back to work...
 
macmax77 said:
Sorry, i just posted as OT, don't really know why it doesn't show.

You obviously completely missed my point. My point was that you shouldn't be posting off-topic material in threads to begin with! Find the appropriate thread on MR and ask your questions there. It doesn't matter whether you state that a question is "off topic", that doesn't somehow automatically make it acceptable. :cool:

macmax77 said:
I don't think you can convert from aac to mp3 in iTunes.

And obviously you didn't read the other part of my post whatsoever. Do I need to cut and paste my previous response?!? :confused: Here, let me try again: RIGHT CLICK THE SONG IN iTUNES AND SELECT "CONVERT SELECTION TO MP3". Not only do you ask an off-topic question, but then you completely ignore my response - well done... :rolleyes:
 
Punani said:
1. Open iTunes preferences.
2. Choose "Importing."
3. Change to MP3 (or whatever).
4. Close preferences.
5. The iTunes contextual menu will now reflect the changes and convert to the format specified in Importing.

It did show. I think ~Shard~ was trying to ask you to find a more appropriate thread or section next time.


Thank you, thank you, thank you and yes, i am buying Tiger.
 
April 1 would seem a reasonable date, except it's April Fools Day.

I vote no, thinksecret is having problems at the moment, like what some one mentioned about getting the colour screen mini iPod wrong, and ts usually don;t get things wrong. Something is happening
 
JRM PowerPod said:
April 1 would seem a reasonable date, except it's April Fools Day.

I vote no, thinksecret is having problems at the moment, like what some one mentioned about getting the colour screen mini iPod wrong, and ts usually don;t get things wrong. Something is happening

But April 1 was also the first day in Apple's existance - as someone has previously pointed out - so it could be true...
 
MacOSXRumors has posted commentary regarding it's previous post of a possible delay and this current rumor: Confusion Over the Release of Tiger

Personally, I have questioned the reliability of Tiger builds as an indicator of it's actual status within Apple, and subsequently, its release date, given the recent barrage of lawsuits.

Now, does anyone know if Apple has put an icon to the Graphing Calculator?
 
i guess there might be one real reason to release tiger in april, and that is: the nab show in las vegas

or to be more precise:
quicktime 7

the release of tiger in advance of nab would enable apple to show off the new mpeg4 HDTV enabled codec for the masses - i mean, to stream new H.264 videos from the show to the consumers. i mean, if this is the year of HDTV, then nab is the place to present it, right? :rolleyes:
 
Where did you get this Price?

animefan_1 said:
Tiger is expected to cost $129. Same as Panther.

Where did you see or hear about this? As far as I know this hasn't even been discussed. Steve has not said anything about pricing and Apple has not officially said anything either.
So are you assuming that the price will be $129 based on Panther cost or did someone learn something new about pricing?

Personally I bet Tiger is more than Panther as it has taken longer to develop and includes as many , if not more changes to the OS.

I'm thinking $149.00.
 
Interesting...

Hmmm.

An interesting rumor, considering that Microsoft has claimed that "Windows XP Professional X64 Edition" is supposedly also going to be released in April.

YMMV, but I'm wondering if the underlying motivation here may really be little more than bragging rights for claiming something like "...first (Caveated) 64 bit OS..." with the minimum number of Caveats.

Who wants to be that this is a "Steve versus Bill" on who can put out the better sounding 64-bit press release first?


-hh
 
digitalbiker said:
Where did you see or hear about this? As far as I know this hasn't even been discussed. Steve has not said anything about pricing and Apple has not officially said anything either.
So are you assuming that the price will be $129 based on Panther cost or did someone learn something new about pricing?

Personally I bet Tiger is more than Panther as it has taken longer to develop and includes as many , if not more changes to the OS.

I'm thinking $149.00.

Search Amazon.com

It says $129 for preorder.
 
I'm not too anxious if all the bugs haven't been worked out yet. I'll wait until 10.4.8 comes out (which historically should be about 8 months or so). ;)
 
MontyZ said:
My source tells me that Tiger will cost $139.
While I am aware that nothing could stop Apple from upping the price to perhaps, "cope with unexpected development time," Apple officially released pricing information with the initial press release.


Press Release
Mac OS X version 10.4 “Tiger” will be available in the first half of 2005 through the Apple Store®, at Apple’s retail stores and through Apple Authorized Resellers for a suggested retail price of $129 (US).
 
The problem with that is that G3 iBooks were still being sold quite recently. But, I agree that by the time 10.5 arrives, they probably need not support G3s. Although, one must wonder what the cost of supporting G3s actually is. I mean, how much time does it take to ensure the older video chipsets and network interfaces, and USB 1.1 drivers all still work? How much effort goes into having both Altivec and non-Altivec codes, etc?

I own two G3 based systems, and I'm glad they'll be supported in 10.4.

~loserman~ said:
Oh I completely agree that they should stop supporting older obsolete systems like the G3.

The kernel of tiger is the same for the G3, G4 and G5. there isn't a 32 bit and 64 bit kernel. Actually there isn't a 64 bit kernel at all because Tiger really is a 32 bit OS with some slight 64 bit functionality. Mainly memory access for POSIX compliant threads running at the command line and Server daemons included too.

I actually expect we wont see a true 64 bit OS until at least 3 yrs after the last G4 sells. Maybe that will be 10.5 maybe 10.6
 
Another hint of April release - "Mac OS X Tiger Killer Tips"

Our good friends at Peachpit, the publisher of many Apple related titles shows that the book, "Mac OS X Tiger Killer Tips" by Scott Kelby is scheduled to be available on March 25, 2005.

If Tiger is due out much later than April, it wouldn't make sense for Peachpit to release it about 1 week before April 1st. I think this is another hint that we'll see an announcement during the first week of April

Here's the link: http://peachpit.com/title/0321290542
 
Critics are a healthy component of any community. One has to know what is wrong in order to adequately improve.

~loserman~ said:
While you may find that I complain a lot about OS X and it's technical merit I do think it's on the right road to mature into an outstanding OS with the right features to support almost anyone.
 
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