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Mac OS X 10.5.1 Update Finalized?

ungraphic said:
So then why is the concept so difficult for you to understand that its more than just an extra click or a few seconds?
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Tell ya what..You tell me what repetitive task you are doing that makes you have to click through stacks several times to get to what you are doing a lot of and I'll give you a good workaround.

Please do this in a step by step fashion because that's what I'm used to seeing.
 
ungraphic said:
So then why is the concept so difficult for you to understand that its more than just an extra click or a few seconds?
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For YOU it is more than an extra click or so....for me, I just click on "show in finder" and i'm good (if I need to). I don't even need the contextual menu in the dock now that I have stacks...and to tell you the truth...it would be like 5 extra clicks if i needed to use the hierarchical contextual menu in the dock and it would take quite some time for all files to render this way (app folder for instance).

lesson here? to each their own. For me? stacks makes life WAAAAY easier.

And before you say "but you have to go to the top of the stack"...as Artie would say..."WAAAAAHHHHH"
 
Peace said:
Tell ya what..You tell me what repetitive task you are doing that makes you have to click through stacks several times to get to what you are doing a lot of and I'll give you a good workaround.

Please do this in a step by step fashion because that's what I'm used to seeing.
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Good idea Peace...that is the only way we can figure out how stacks may be lacking...for those who it is lacking for.
 
Peace said:
Tell ya what..You tell me what repetitive task you are doing that makes you have to click through stacks several times to get to what you are doing a lot of and I'll give you a good workaround.

Please do this in a step by step fashion because that's what I'm used to seeing.
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I have a folder with several subfolder and several files in each sub folder to access needed documents on a regular basis at work. Apart from that, i use the same method for shortcuts to apps that arent in my dock, because i dont like the entire bottom screen being used for apps, especially ones that arent as frequently used. This is *my* favourite way of going about things, and if 9 pages and counting on the subject isnt enough to show you that there are many other people who agree, then please stop posting comments.
 
ungraphic said:
I have a folder with several subfolder and several files in each sub folder to access needed documents on a regular basis at work. Apart from that, i use the same method for shortcuts to apps that arent in my dock, because i dont like the entire bottom screen being used for apps, especially ones that arent as frequently used. This is *my* favourite way of going about things, and if 9 pages and counting on the subject isnt enough to show you that there are many other people who agree, then please stop posting comments.
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Sorry don't know what to tell you..Send Apple some email.;)
 
lamina said:
I don't know what you all are whining about...

My stacks are attached.

The first is my download folder. It's always in the same place, so I know where it is and what's there.

The second is my school folder.

Edit: The point is, if you keep your stack icons in the same place, there shouldn't be a problem with knowing which is which.
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Now try to remember which is which when you have 10 stacks.

Thanks for playing though. ;)
 
Rt. click the stack, bro, and then go to "Sort by" and chose "Date Modified", "Date Added", or "Date Modified", then, instead of "Name". ;)

Ok, I just got thinking...does 10.5.0 not have that option? I'm on a test-station of 10.5.1, so I can't check.

Surely said:
I must say, I've downloaded and utilized the Stacks Drawers Modification, and it really makes a big difference aesthetically. Now I know which stack is which without having to hover over each one.

It's such a simple solution, but it works. Now I have to see if I won't mind the new sorting option that must be used: 'Sort by Date Modified'. That may prove to be annoying in a large stack that would be better organized alphabetically.
We'll see though......

Now if only I can change the bright blue lights below each open application on the Dock to a different colour that is easier to see.....
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Peace said:
You do realize each stack has a label right?

Just mouse-over the stack and it shows the label.
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These labels may/do change anytime a new file is added. The priority on the label will also depend on which way the files in a stack are organized (date, kind, name).

Miserable experience.
 
ungraphic said:
These labels may/do change anytime a new file is added. The priority on the label will also depend on which way the files in a stack are organized (date, kind, name).

Miserable experience.
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The label doesn't change if you have a folder as a stack.The label shows the name of the folder no matter whats inside the folder.
 
Jetson said:
I was thinking the same thing as I was typing this particular item.

One person's bug is another's feature, eh? :D
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Well, technically it's not a 'bug', since Apple intentionally created that behavior for re-naming files. ;) Whether it was a good decision or not is another matter.

I much prefer this new default behavior, and I think most other people do. But it's customizable which is the most important thing.
 
Peace said:
You do realize each stack has a label right?

Just mouse-over the stack and it shows the label.
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I shouldn't have to mouse over something to know what it is. It should be obvious just by looking at it. That is why there are different icons for iTunes, Safari, Mail, iChat, etc.
Seems pretty inefficient to have to mouse over something to ID it.
 
mountainbiker80 said:
Rt. click the stack, bro, and then go to "Sort by" and chose "Date Modified", "Date Added", or "Date Modified", then, instead of "Name". ;)

Ok, I just got thinking...does 10.5.0 not have that option? I'm on a test-station of 10.5.1, so I can't check.
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Um, I know how to change the sorting options. Maybe you should reread my comment.

My point was that changing the sorting options makes that folder change it's organization. If you have 100 items in it, isn't it easier to browse for something if it is organized alphabetically as opposed by date modified?
As I said, the drawer mod is an excellent aesthetic upgrade, but functionally I'll have to wait and see if I can deal with the new way I have to organize them (meaning by Date Modified).
 
What's included?
The following improvements for both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs are included in this update

AirPort
Allows password-protected accounts on AirPort Disks to show up on in the Finder's Shared Sidebar.
Resolves an issue with saved passwords for wireless networks.
Back to My Mac
Improves the reliability of Back to My Mac-enabled Macs appearing in the Finder's Shared Sidebar.
Improves compatibility with D-Link NAT gateways.

Disk utilities
Restores the functionality of the progress bar during permission repairs in Disk Utility.
Addresses an issue that could produce an alert when creating disk images using Disk Utility or Terminal.
Improves disk partitioning when multiple RAID sets are created on the same disk.

iCal
iCal alarms are now more reliably delivered via email.
Resolves an issue when inviting attendees via a CalDAV account.

Mail
Improves stability when resizing columns in the message viewer or switching between Stationery templates in email messages.
Addresses an issue in which attachments enclosed inside an HTML link may not be clickable in email messages.
Fixes an issue with email accounts added using the "Simple Setup" feature in which messages cannot be sent due to an SMTP connection failure.
Improves Smart Mailboxes compatibility with .Mac Sync, and addresses an issue with To Do's disappearing when using Smart Mailboxes.
Resolves an issue with syncing Mail accounts with .Mac in which multiple On My Mac folders appear in the Mailbox pane.

Networking
Addresses an issue in which Microsoft Windows shared folders may be read-only when connected via SMB.

Printing
Resolves an issue in which user-selected values on Paper Feed PDE are reset to default while saving a custom preset.

Security, Firewall
Addresses a code signing issue; third-party applications can now run when included in the Application Firewall or when whitelisted in Parental Controls.
In Security preferences' Firewall tab, the "Block All" option is now called "Allow Only essential services"
Includes recent Apple security updates.

System and Finder
Addresses a potential data loss issue when moving files across partitions in the Finder.
Resolves an issue with login after turning off FileVault for a specific user account.
Improves compatibility with Adobe Flash-based uploaders used by .Mac Web Gallery and certain other websites and applications.
Resolves a potential text drawing issue with certain Adobe Flash-based websites and applications.

Time Machine
Addresses formatting issues with certain drives used with Time Machine (specifically, single-partition MBR drives greater than 512 GB in size as well as NTFS drives of any size and partition scheme).
Resolves an issue in which files restored in Time Machine may be restored to the backup hierarchy rather than the folders to which they belong.
 
Peace said:
Tell ya what..You tell me what repetitive task you are doing that makes you have to click through stacks several times to get to what you are doing a lot of and I'll give you a good workaround.

Please do this in a step by step fashion because that's what I'm used to seeing.
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OK.

I have thousands of files on my Mac in hundreds of folders arranged by topic. Under Tiger, I could access any file on my system with a click and drag. Let's say the file I want is 4 layers deep. And let's say I put the top level folder in the dock in each case.

Tiger:
Click, drag, release

Leopard:
Click
Select folder
Release
Double click on next folder
Double click on next folder
Double click on file (launches app)
Go to Finder (I use 'Show Desktop' or you could do it the slow way)
Close the last folder window
Go back to the app you want and start working

Tell me how I can do that in Leopard in a time even close to what it was in Tiger. And keep in mind that I'm opening different files all the time and there's no way to know in advance which file or folder I'll need at any given time.
 
Peace said:
Sorry don't know what to tell you..Send Apple some email.;)
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But he described exactly what several people were describing before you shot off your mouth and said you could tell us how to do it in Leopard without wasting time.

If you had bothered reading the thread, you'd have know what we were complaining about before you made your false claim.
 
jragosta said:
OK.

I have thousands of files on my Mac in hundreds of folders arranged by topic. Under Tiger, I could access any file on my system with a click and drag. Let's say the file I want is 4 layers deep. And let's say I put the top level folder in the dock in each case.

Tiger:
Click, drag, release

Leopard:
Click
Select folder
Release
Double click on next folder
Double click on next folder
Double click on file (launches app)
Go to Finder (I use 'Show Desktop' or you could do it the slow way)
Close the last folder window
Go back to the app you want and start working

Tell me how I can do that in Leopard in a time even close to what it was in Tiger. And keep in mind that I'm opening different files all the time and there's no way to know in advance which file or folder I'll need at any given time.
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Spotlight? Or do you not know the names of the files you want to open?

/sorry, I don't mean to be a S-disturber....
 
He's basically saying that an (empty) folder with an alphanumeric name like "0" will sort to the top and that if I replace it's icon with the icon from the downloads folder it will always look like a download folder in the dock.

I haven't done this kind of icon switching since OS-9 days, but it sort of works.

When I tried it, the custom icon doesn't show up though, only the default blue one so it's not going to do it for me. The plain blue folder also doesn't really work as an identifier of what it is even if the custom cover had come through.

An excellent suggestion though and probably useful for others.
 
Peace said:
Tell ya what..You tell me what repetitive task you are doing that makes you have to click through stacks several times to get to what you are doing a lot of and I'll give you a good workaround.

Please do this in a step by step fashion because that's what I'm used to seeing.
Click to expand...

ungraphic said:
I have a folder with several subfolder and several files in each sub folder to access needed documents on a regular basis at work. Apart from that, i use the same method for shortcuts to apps that arent in my dock, because i dont like the entire bottom screen being used for apps, especially ones that arent as frequently used. This is *my* favourite way of going about things, and if 9 pages and counting on the subject isnt enough to show you that there are many other people who agree, then please stop posting comments.
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Peace said:
Sorry don't know what to tell you..Send Apple some email.;)
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Peace said:
The label doesn't change if you have a folder as a stack.The label shows the name of the folder no matter whats inside the folder.
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jragosta said:
But he described exactly what several people were describing before you shot off your mouth and said you could tell us how to do it in Leopard without wasting time.

If you had bothered reading the thread, you'd have know what we were complaining about before you made your false claim.
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READ this and tell me he did what I asked.

And you too need to learn some manners.
 
Surely said:
Spotlight? Or do you not know the names of the files you want to open?

/sorry, I don't mean to be a S-disturber....
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Tiger:
Click and drag to open any file

Leopard / spotlight:
Click on Spotlight icon
Type in name of file you want
Select 'show all'
Scroll down to find appropriate file
Double click on file
Go back to finder
Close folder
Go back to application you're using

And that's assuming that you can remember the name of the file you want. With thousands of files, that's not always easy.
 
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