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Mac OS X 10.5.1 Update Finalized?

zen said:
New link back up at http://t.ecksdee.org/post/19001860

Personally, I love this! It's a fix, quite clever but still a band aid, but it's a start. Apple REALLY need to take a look at this - the idea of a transparent "tray" icon which sits over the top, while the content icons change as they normally do, is terrific. Here's my dock:

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Problem solved for now!
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It looks like the link to download the custom drawers with the different icons on them is dead. Anyone know of another linky?
EDIT: Never mind, it's back.
 
Surely said:
Now, what I don't understand/like about the aesthetics of the Stacks is how items stack up. The new dock design makes it seem like it it a flat surface that is parallel with the keyboard or your desk. Shouldn't the Stacks stack up towards the top of the screen instead of out of the screen towards me? A stack of something is a pile of something, not a bunch of flat items leaning against each other. It almost seems like the Stacks designers weren't working together or communicating with the new Dock designers.
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That's a very good point. Hadn't occurred to me
 
I've been using Leopard every day, since the day it came out, and haven't had a single issue with it. So I can't say I'm looking forward to 10.5.1, as I'm not going to notice a thing LOL.

But updates do make me feel fuzzy inside.
 
Stacks is an incredible failure. I could see it as a success if it were released on OS 9, but this will make things more difficult and time consuming at work now once we get our computers 'upgraded' to leopard (personally, id see it now as a downgrade). The shortcut folders i have in Tiger allow me to quickly access frequently needed documents in hierarchal order, without opening the finder, ever. As well, I dont even need to open the finder at all, ever as I can drop the system disk icon from my desktop to my dock and access everything from there. Almost makes the finder obsolete.

Stacks needs to either;

a) be removed completely and have Tiger's sub-folder view
b) have stacks be modified to allow either grid, fan or sub-folder view

I'd expect such an embarrassment from microsoft, but not apple.
 
I must say, I've downloaded and utilized the Stacks Drawers Modification, and it really makes a big difference aesthetically. Now I know which stack is which without having to hover over each one.

It's such a simple solution, but it works. Now I have to see if I won't mind the new sorting option that must be used: 'Sort by Date Modified'. That may prove to be annoying in a large stack that would be better organized alphabetically.
We'll see though......

Now if only I can change the bright blue lights below each open application on the Dock to a different colour that is easier to see.....
 
Surely said:
Now if only I can change the bright blue lights below each open application on the Dock to a different colour that is easier to see.....
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Thats another thing that bugs me, it looks rushed and like a cheap windows imitation of OS X aqua, you know, like all those winamp skins made by amateur designers?

Id keep it like it was, a black triangle, this blue glow is barely noticeable and ugly.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
I do have to say that these actually look pretty neat, and go a long way towards intuitive interface guidelines, which the current implementation is lacking. Of course, I and many other people don't want to nor should have to tinker with the terminal - and of course you're stuck with the folder icon cluttering up the stack and its underlying folder.
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Like you I don't want to fool around in Terminal, but I think these have been changed so that all you have to do is drop one onto the Stack you want to change and it automatically stays on top of the other items. At least that''s how it's working for me. And I like the way these new icons look - fits the Leopard folder theme very nicely.
 
milo said:
Thank you for your enlightening and informative contribution to the discussion.
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Can you see the irony in your post? Very good (or bad)!

What I mean is that they do what they say on the tin. The problem people here have isn't a problem with stacks, it's that they can't put folders in the dock in the same way they could in tiger. Stacks isn't and was never meant to be a folder in the dock, but a quick way to access the things in a particular folder. The problem is that Apple have replaced one functionality with another that's different, there should be an option for both.
 
ungraphic said:
Thats another thing that bugs me, it looks rushed and like a cheap windows imitation of OS X aqua, you know, like all those winamp skins made by amateur designers?

Id keep it like it was, a black triangle, this blue glow is barely noticeable and ugly.
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Interesting.

When I put the dock on the right side, the blue orbs stand out clear as day (much better than the triangles in 10.4). I think that's because the dock is shaded darker in Leopard, which increases the contrast.
 
ungraphic said:
Stacks needs to either;

b) have stacks be modified to allow either grid, fan or sub-folder view
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Maybe I misunderstand your comment, but doesn't Stacks already allow you to specify Automatic/Fan/Grid display, leaving only your sub-folder view as not available?

I've found Stacks very useful so far, in fact I use it where I never used the folder-in-dock method of Tiger. My only gripe would be that the most current Document be the first in the Stack rather than the 123rd or whatever...
 
gwangung said:
Interesting.

When I put the dock on the right side, the blue orbs stand out clear as day (much better than the triangles in 10.4). I think that's because the dock is shaded darker in Leopard, which increases the contrast.
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I'd agree that the 2D version of the dock has much more visible blue dots. I've been OK with them since I tweaked my bottom dock to the 2D version.
 
mountainbiker80 said:
Who knew that so many people could complain about something so silly! LOL! :p
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With so many people complaining, maybe that means it's not silly.

It's a functionality issue where an action can take much longer than it did before. That's a legit issue and apple should fix it.
 
milo said:
With so many people complaining, maybe that means it's not silly.

It's a functionality issue where an action can take much longer than it did before. That's a legit issue and apple should fix it.
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Yes, some of us also use a computer and OS X's feature for, wait for......work!
 
milo said:
With so many people complaining, maybe that means it's not silly.

It's a functionality issue where an action can take much longer than it did before. That's a legit issue and apple should fix it.
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An action can take "much longer" ?

What's that like one extra click or 1 second?
 
Peace said:
An action can take "much longer" ?

What's that like one extra click or 1 second?
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This has been detailed earlier in this thread. Before, drilling down through a folder directory could be done with one click, now it requires a number of clicks plus opening and closing folder windows.
 
ungraphic said:
Its more like a few more seconds multiplied by about 100 times a day.

Do you have a job or are you just a teenager in high school?
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I have a job.And I'm probably much older than you.;)

Personal insults arn't nice in MR btw.:)

Look folks I'd like to see Apple redo stacks like they had in 9a466 but things are changing and in the future we might understand why.
 
I don't know what you all are whining about...

My stacks are attached.

The first is my download folder. It's always in the same place, so I know where it is and what's there.

The second is my school folder.

Edit: The point is, if you keep your stack icons in the same place, there shouldn't be a problem with knowing which is which.
 

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ungraphic said:
Thats another thing that bugs me, it looks rushed and like a cheap windows imitation of OS X aqua, you know, like all those winamp skins made by amateur designers?

Id keep it like it was, a black triangle, this blue glow is barely noticeable and ugly.
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I used to think the blue dots were ambiguous at first too...but they became very noticable after a few days...but I switched to the 2D shortly thereafter....and will never switch back again. I find the 2D dock very clean and straight forward and much nicer and modern than the Tiger dock...just my 2 cents though.
 
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