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ZFS is confirmed.

Also a new feature-describing installer.

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Please lets not break out NDAs.

This view confuses me. You're on a rumours site, where do you think this insider information comes from? Most are probably from people who signed NDAs.

The only other ways really of getting rumours are educated guesses (sometimes accurate, but not usually very specific) and Time magazine leaks ;)

(By the way, I only notice people mention NDAs when we're talking about OS X. NDAs would likely apply to virtually any rumour we hear about, hardware or software. It always seemed like people make the association between NDA and OS X ever since those developers got sued for leaking builds.)
 
This view confuses me. You're on a rumours site, where do you think this insider information comes from? Most are probably from people who signed NDAs.

Like me... I have seed access and agreed to the NDA.

I am trying to encourage folks to not break it (in this case I know the individual has seed access and agreed to the NDA terms). Folks casually breaking it is one of the reasons we don't get access to some of the new features until very late in the release cycle...
 
Like me... I have seed access and agreed to the NDA.

I am trying to encourage folks to not break it (in this case I know the individual has seed access and agreed to the NDA terms). Folks casually breaking it is one of the reasons we don't get access to some of the new features until very late in the release cycle...

Right, but by being on a rumours site you seem to be implying you want people to break their NDA. Unless you only object to "casually breaking" the NDA, though I'm not sure what the difference is.
 
No, Leopard in Autumn (March) not Summer (January).

It's now less than four weeks till MWSF, do you honestly think Apple are going to seed a number of release candidates and a gold master and then go into production in that time? No.

Apple themselves said Northern Hemisphere Spring so MWSF is totally out of the question.

Hehe, you missed my witty attempt.... in case I was too vague, I mixed the hemispherical seasons....*sigh* ....my humor is too left field. Until macrumors.com gets a .au at the end, the context will be US seasons :D
 
That would be enough for me right there. My biggest complaints have always been 1) the finder, and 2) no built-in virtual desktops (yay for Apple-supported virtual desktops!).

Let's see a new finder! Say it with me now: NEW FINDER!

You have my vote! NEW FINDER! NEW FINDER! NEW FINDER! NEW FINDER!
 
Hmm.......Australians arent real smart are they. Oh well, thats why we Americans control the modern world and make the big decisions that take care of the smaller folk :cool:
 
so basically the difference is that ZFS can hold more information (2 EB) and that its 128bit and the HFS is only 64bit and can hold less information (2 GB)?
 
so basically the difference is that ZFS can hold more information (2 EB) and that its 128bit and the HFS is only 64bit and can hold less information (2 GB)?

Huh? I guess you are comparing HFS against XFS not HFS plus against XFS. Mac OS X uses HFS plus as its default filesystem.

HFS+ (HFS plus) supports a maximum file size of 8 EiB [1], maximum volume size is in general unlimited (requires scaling of allocation block size which increases wasted space for small files) and in general an unlimited number of files and files per folder (only limited by blocks available on disk).

XFS supports a maximum file size of 8 EiB, maximum volume size of 16 EiB [2] and in general an unlimited number of files and files per folder (only limited by blocks available on disk).

[1] Wikipedia says 16 EiB but I believe it is wrong unless they recovered the 64th bit during some revision to HFS+.
[2] Wikipedia says 8 EiB but I believe it is wrong.
 
Huh?

HFS+ supports a maximum file size of 8 EiB [1], maximum volume size of 8 EiB [1] and effectively an unlimited number of files and files per folder (only limited by blocks available on disk).

XFS supports a maximum file size of 8 EiB, maximum volume size of 16 EiB [2] and effectively an unlimited number of files and files per folder (only limited by blocks available on disk).

[1] Wikipedia says 16 EiB but I believe it is wrong unless they recovered the 64th bit during some revision to HFS+.
[2] Wikipedia says 8 EiB but I believe it is wrong.


XFS? i thought it was ZFS?
 
XFS? i thought it was ZFS?

Oops yeah folks are talking about ZFS :eek:

So for ZFS we are looking at 16 EiB for max file size and file system (size) and it has the concept of volume management considered at the file system level which is something that HFS+ doesn't have. The later allows much more dynamic file systems that can grow and shrink as new disks/partitions are added as well as move between disks.

Also it has the concept of snapshoting at the file allocation block level which is a nice feature (most snapshoting happens at the disk block-level).
 
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