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Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard - Still Waiting
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I do find it slightly amusing that when M$ delayed it's operating system they are branded "incompetent" and laughed at.
When Apple does it, people say "I hope they take their time and get it right".....
I'm kinda bored with Apple lately. Just nothing happening at all, no OS news for ages. No mac updates for ages either.
The mac pro was launched well over 6 months ago and remains the exact same price now as it did then. Let's even mention the mac mini.
When Apple does it, people say "I hope they take their time and get it right".....
I'm kinda bored with Apple lately. Just nothing happening at all, no OS news for ages. No mac updates for ages either.
The mac pro was launched well over 6 months ago and remains the exact same price now as it did then. Let's even mention the mac mini.
I do find it slightly amusing that when M$ delayed it's operating system they are branded "incompetent" and laughed at.
When Apple does it, people say "I hope they take their time and get it right".....
I find it more amusing that when Apple says "Spring", people are branding them incompetent if it doesn't arrive the first day of Spring...
We know that the iPhone is due for a June release, and June marks the end of the announced time frame for Leopard. And, as much as I like my Mac Pro and Intel iMac, most of Apple's computers look pretty much like their non-Intel predecessors. It's not as if Apple is about to shock us with some new CPU, since everyone now knows the roadmap, so changes in the design are all they have left.
So, June could be the "perfect storm" of product introductions for Apple, although it's hard to believe that they'll do all of this at around the same time or at one event.
So, June could be the "perfect storm" of product introductions for Apple, although it's hard to believe that they'll do all of this at around the same time or at one event.
Leopard delayed until October?
Mac User's web-site in the UK posts speculation that Leopard may be delayed until October due to additional work being required to make Boot camp fully compatible with Vista.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/macuser/news/108605/leopard-delayed-until-october-report.html
Hope this is not true. I would expect that they could release leopard with a final XP compatible version of Boot Camp and then add the Vista capabilites through a later update.
Mac User's web-site in the UK posts speculation that Leopard may be delayed until October due to additional work being required to make Boot camp fully compatible with Vista.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/macuser/news/108605/leopard-delayed-until-october-report.html
Hope this is not true. I would expect that they could release leopard with a final XP compatible version of Boot Camp and then add the Vista capabilites through a later update.
What a fake... LOL
Stop being like babes, Apple said Spring, and Spring will be, and remember spring last till june 20th!!!
God you need a life...
It's not like that idea is impossible, it just means they need to work harder on it. Not that they aren't, but don't act like it's an illogical request.
Yeah, sure, like there have been two 4K78 builds, how could I forget about Apple's famous double build strategy! ;-)
Apple have missed a lot of specified product release dates, such as aTV, Nanos and others.
The reason why Apple said "Spring" for 10.5 is because its such a wide window.
I'm sure there is functionality that was planned for 10.5 that will be MIA, just like there was in 10.4.
Leopard
I have no problem waiting, after all, isn't Tiger great already? I know, I am eager to see what Leopard will offer (apart from the items we allready know).
I very much believe that the reported" buginess" of the current seeds of Leopard are partly to blame due to the absence of the "secret" items in these builds. Some references in the code to these features (which then are not executed because that part of code is missing) may cause the instability many developers experience.
I am allright with a Leopard release in June WWDC, as long as the bugs are ironed out, and we don't need a 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 update 14 days later....
As for the WWDC keynote, I hope it will end in a "one more thing", which hopefully is not an annoucement that iPhone is shipping, but rather some nice and exciting Mac hardware, and it would be nice if it was "4 more things", meaning a new iMac, uprated Mac mini's with core 2 duo's, new Mac Pro's, and new Macbook Pro's, and of course, new displays..... I can dream can't I ?
I have no problem waiting, after all, isn't Tiger great already? I know, I am eager to see what Leopard will offer (apart from the items we allready know).
I very much believe that the reported" buginess" of the current seeds of Leopard are partly to blame due to the absence of the "secret" items in these builds. Some references in the code to these features (which then are not executed because that part of code is missing) may cause the instability many developers experience.
I am allright with a Leopard release in June WWDC, as long as the bugs are ironed out, and we don't need a 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 update 14 days later....
As for the WWDC keynote, I hope it will end in a "one more thing", which hopefully is not an annoucement that iPhone is shipping, but rather some nice and exciting Mac hardware, and it would be nice if it was "4 more things", meaning a new iMac, uprated Mac mini's with core 2 duo's, new Mac Pro's, and new Macbook Pro's, and of course, new displays..... I can dream can't I ?
Why would it take MONTHS to update a boot-loader and collection of off-the-shelf device drivers?
Apple may or may not delay Leopard, but it's certainly not going to be because it takes that long to make Bootcamp work with Leopard. For now though I think it's worth sticking to the "WWDC or shortly thereafter" release. If it's not then, then is it September when the French MacWorld thing is held?
I do find it slightly amusing that when M$ delayed it's operating system they are branded "incompetent" and laughed at.
When Apple does it, people say "I hope they take their time and get it right".....
I'm kinda bored with Apple lately. Just nothing happening at all, no OS news for ages. No mac updates for ages either.
The mac pro was launched well over 6 months ago and remains the exact same price now as it did then. Let's even mention the mac mini.
The situation is quite different, actually. Had Microsoft delayed Vista once, for a few months, I would not have called them incompetent. It was supposed to come out in 2003, after all. Well, they delayed it... they delayed it again... and they delayed it again... (I think they did four or five or maybe six times total!)
We are talking about Apple delaying ONCE to later this year. If Apple delays to 2008, I would be quite unhappy with them.
Of course, I still think Leopard will most likely come out in Spring...
And if Apple hasn't either already FIXED the bugs, or knows perfectly well how to fix them, why are they wasting their time on new screensavers!
i think this is the BEST giveaway that leopard will not be released until june. for those with bad eyes, the australian site says leopard will release mid 2007 and the u.s. site says spring 2007. as spring would only make sense on the northern hemisphere, my bet it that we will have to hold our breath at least 3 more months....
for those with extreme new OSX withdrawal symptoms, check out ubuntu 6.10 and the upcoming new version due out in april. i would say that with this release linux is finally primed for the big time. be sure to also install automatix2, which will download and install all the audio/video codecs that ubuntu can't legally include...
I commend Apple for at least making sure they come out with a stable release without sacrificing features. While I think Vista is an "OK" operating system, it could have been so much more had they not cut features to get it out the door. I think we will see a plethora of products hit in June/July. Santa Rosa, iPhone, and Leopard. Pair that with CS3 coming out the doors soon, and Apple is in a good position to make up some of the ground they recently lost to Vista.
Come on, OS 10.5 will be released on May the 10th. It is obvious.
Except that this the the USA, and 10/5 is fifth of October
Whenever it comes out, I hope it doesn't come out July 21st. I'd have to wait until the next day at least to buy it. (And I didn't, shockingly, recognize the date 5/10 or 10/5 as 10.5 until I read it above... oops.)Come on, OS 10.5 will be released on May the 10th. It is obvious.
I think Apple probably has all the issues and the completion of the product under control (not necessarily finished). Their release date is probably targeted less by issues in the system itself (though it may enter into the equation) than by factors of when they WANT it to be released. Their marketing department is probably the driving force.
The state of current developer builds aren't really a good measure to go by. The developer builds are right now called "Developer Previews", which imply that they aren't real builds, only builds that have components needed for developers. Some developers (say, ones for Adobe) may be getting completely different builds. After all, ANYONE can get the Developer Previews if they pay only $500. Would Apple really let ANYONE look at their real next-generation operating system? What happened to all their secrets?
Top Secret: Leopard will screen share with iPhone & Apple TV
You heard it from me before, and I will say it again, (send me kudos when it is announced) Leopard will amazingly allow you to share your computer to your iPhone and Apple TV. You will be able to check email and surf on your TV in your living room, and you will be able to operate your computer from your phone. You will also be able to share all media content seemlessly between the three. Screen sharing on Apple TV and iPhone allows your computer to house the memory and power and simply uses the your television and iphone to mirror the screen. It's simply genius. Everyone will want all three and a .Mac account to boot. Also, it will be unveiled in June. This is why it's Top Secret.
You heard it from me before, and I will say it again, (send me kudos when it is announced) Leopard will amazingly allow you to share your computer to your iPhone and Apple TV. You will be able to check email and surf on your TV in your living room, and you will be able to operate your computer from your phone. You will also be able to share all media content seemlessly between the three. Screen sharing on Apple TV and iPhone allows your computer to house the memory and power and simply uses the your television and iphone to mirror the screen. It's simply genius. Everyone will want all three and a .Mac account to boot. Also, it will be unveiled in June. This is why it's Top Secret.
Except that this the the USA, and 10/5 is fifth of October
Suits us you have it on the 5th October and we'll have it on the 10th May.
I definitely think there are bigger plans for
tv. Consider:* It's built for HD, but there's no Apple Store HD content yet. That will change very soon.
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tv can talk to directly to your router, but right now there's no way to buy content except from the computer. That'll change too.*
tv is in position to challenge cable/satellite outright, but there's no a cost-effective subscription plan or PPV movie plan yet. Surely, that's coming.Throw in the iPhone and a brand new OS, and there are lots of possibilities.
So amazing, in fact, that Windows Mobile phones have been able to do this for at least 4 years.
(Windows Mobile has a remote desktop client - so you can open the PC from the phone. Of course, Windows Mobile also has Internet Explorer and Outlook, so you don't need the PC to surf and check mail.)
Yeah, but Windows Mobile can't surf the web well. I've never used the Remote Desktop client, though, so I can't say anything on that front.
But here's what annoys me (and I'm not really talking about you so much as some others... including some friends of mine): some people will criticize Apple for doing what already is done elsewhere, but what they don't realize is that others cannot be counted as already doing what Apple does because Apple does it several times better. Devices like the iPod aren't the best because of what they CAN DO... it's how they do it.
Steve Jobs was right when he said most people do not use the address book on most phones - I don't have a phone, but some people I know (same people, in fact, who claim that their phone does what the iPhone does) don't bother using the address book as it is too difficult, and rely instead on their "recently called" list.
It isn't what the device CAN DO, it is HOW IT DOES IT.