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Sil3132 driver and Canon lide 50. Driver

I hope they fix the sil3132 driver problems , à lot of express cards for esata are working with this driver and i get kernel panics now everytime i connect à drive to my card, also my canon lide50 scanner is not working anymore byt i think that is a diffrent driver and more something Canon should fix and not Apple
 
10.6 is not so great

Initially 10.6 seemed to speed things up but now, a couple of weeks later, I find lots of little glitches; safari and flash both crash, together and separately, often. Lots of small operations are slower than they were under 10.5...anything from opening windows to saving files. 10.6 has real problems working with the superdrive. I have repaired permissions and been on the phone w/apple tech support blah blah but the bottom line seems to be that 10.6 is just not great. I would say this is the worst upgrade experience I have ever had with an apple OS. I hope 10.6.2 is a significant improvement because apple, in my opinion, as it has become larger and more successful, has also lost something in the QA department. Ubuntu is looking better all the time!
 
Initially 10.6 seemed to speed things up but now, a couple of weeks later, I find lots of little glitches; safari and flash both crash, together and separately, often. Lots of small operations are slower than they were under 10.5...anything from opening windows to saving files. 10.6 has real problems working with the superdrive. I have repaired permissions and been on the phone w/apple tech support blah blah but the bottom line seems to be that 10.6 is just not great. I would say this is the worst upgrade experience I have ever had with an apple OS. I hope 10.6.2 is a significant improvement because apple, in my opinion, as it has become larger and more successful, has also lost something in the QA department. Ubuntu is looking better all the time!

I don't agree at all. It feels at least as good as 10.5.8 did (it's even a bit quicker). No major issues for me – I don't know why it seems some people always have trouble... :|
 
This looks like the Snow Leopard that should have been on day one. :p

Same with XP SP1 (although 2 was significantly better), Vista whatever, 10.1 (10.0 = $129 beta), 10.3.1, 10.4.1, and 10.5.2, iPhone OS 3.0, the iPhone 3G... and many other gadgets and apps out there not from Apple or MS.

The companies don't have to learn how to do it right the first time as long as people are gladly willing to buy it. Other than that, they sell it to the masses because testing every possible combination is impossible, and having other people be the "guinea pigs" is much easier.

(I bought SL day of release cause it was sold at my work, but didn't install it until last weekend because I wanted to dedicate time to it. Read sig.)
 
Here's hoping that 10.6.2 addresses the prevalent issue of jerky UI animation, which plagues many SL users regardless of CPU, memory or graphics resources. On my 4GB C2D system, exposé, dashboard and spaces are all jerky, and especially so when my external display is hooked up. I know of people with 16GB Mac Pros exhibiting the same issue! :mad:

I wouldn't exactly say regardless of CPU, memory or graphics resources. Snow Leopard's UI runs silky smooth on my original MBP with an ATI X1600 mobility graphics card. Slightly less so on the 9400m of my unibody 17". But I do notice UI choppiness on the 9600 card (which is faster and has double the video RAM of the 9400!) :mad: so yes, I hope the jerky UI animation improves with 10.6.2.
 
Snow Leopard really rocks on my MBP!

Well, I will still wait for 10.6.3 or even 10.6.4 update, before I even think of installing Snow Leopard for the first time on my Mac mini (I received the upgrade DVD almost a month ago).

The good old Leopard works great for me.

I think that is the wrong attitude to take, SL really8 rocks and if you have one of the 9400M based GPU's you get several benefits including OpenCL acceleration. Frankly SL is the best thing I ever did for my Mac. It wasn't long after that that i switched to 64 bit kernels and system, every thing looks grand form this point on. A fast and versatile machine for sure.


Dave
 
Honestly, I would like to see some improvements to Safari 4 as well. (I know that this would usually be a separate release). While Safari 4 and 64-bit finally caught the browser up to speed with other browsers in many aspects, Safari is still really bare-boned as far as features go and has a lot of room for improvement. So yeah, it's fast now, and reasonably stable with 64-bit, but give me something not practically useless like Coverflow and Top Sites in the next update. Every other browser is making great strides.
 
You need some perspective here, look to the Linux.

I've followed Linux for a long time, at least since when NT was a new OS from MS. One thing I've learned is that even the best minds in the world take a long time making a major change in an OS often having several bug updates to go along. For example discussion and implementations of schedulers is never ending in Linux land.

Like wise Apple has made major changes to the kernel to support GCD and other technologies. These sort of things literally take years to iron out, fortunately Apple knew where it was going years ago and where careful with the implementation of things like NSOperation, so that old code could benefit from the new technology. To me this is a sign that GCD has been in sight for at least a couple of years at Apple.
For the people who are not having problems:

It's because you are using a specific hardware and not using a specific software. It's just luck! I don't have trackpad issues because my trackpad is not multi-touch but I am having video corruption because I have a GMA X3100.
Yep this is very possible, if one video driver has a problem it does not imply that others do. However there do seem to be video issues that apply across a spectrum of Apple hardware.
What pisses me off; Hackintosh apart, Mac OS is suppose to run only in a small range of hardware, so in theory it's more easier to address bugs. What is happening to Apple? Maybe they are using more personnel in other areas like iPhone development? Maybe Steve Jobs wasn't there to pull ears?
Interestingly throwing more programmers at a problem doesn't imply that the problem will be fixed any faster, this has been shown to often be the case is software development. Sometimes you need a different perspective to kinda reboot the development team.
Rant appart, I am happy to see all this bugs being addressed. I just hope for decent GMA X3100 drivers with 64bit support so I can have a 64bit boot in my Macbook 4,1.
I'm not sure that will be possible. It all depends upon specific behaviors of the chip and corner cases. It might work as a hack but who knows if Apple will be 100% happy with 64 bit boot on the old hardware. All I can say is 64 bits on my early 2008 MBP is really really nice. Everything is very fluid and running the pointer across the dock looks like waves on the ocean.
Like many, I would love relative sizes in Exposé but I don't think Apple would "fix it" in 10.6.2

I'm not sure this would be a fix at all. Relative sizes is kinda the opposite of what you want in Exposé, rather you want the system to size the windows so that as many of them as possible are intelligible.

In any event I still think you are going a bit overboard here. SL is one fantastic OS, it fixes far more bugs than it creates, runs faster and offers new facilities for developers. That is one nice update.

Dave
 
I like bare, even bare bones software ;)

Mr. Wonderful, Safari is Wonderful

As to bear bones frankly I'd rather have it that way than like what we have with Firefox. As to speed Safari is either #1 or #2 depending upon how the speed is measured, that isn't really that bad at all. Further if you look at what is coming via the Webkit releases you will realize that Safari has been very bleeding edge for a long time. It is literally in shape to bring the future of the internet.

Besides that I like Top Sites, that after being initially repulsed by the idea. It works really well to track news and other common web sites and really doesn't detract at all form using Safari. It might not work for random web surfing but it is great to roll out of bed and quickly see what is up. Frankly it is so nice that I kinda wish that I could self configure at least one row for the sites I reference everyday.

Dave


Honestly, I would like to see some improvements to Safari 4 as well. (I know that this would usually be a separate release). While Safari 4 and 64-bit finally caught the browser up to speed with other browsers in many aspects, Safari is still really bare-boned as far as features go and has a lot of room for improvement. So yeah, it's fast now, and reasonably stable with 64-bit, but give me something not practically useless like Coverflow and Top Sites in the next update. Every other browser is making great strides.
 
Is anyone having this issue with Safari in Snow Leopard? (I saw a thread on this today):

Type a backslash into the search box on the right. Keep holding it down if it does not happen at first. Safari should crash. Please send the crash report to Apple so they can fix the issue.
 
Maybe it is you or your machines!

I'm not trying to be mean here but you have to be doing something wrong as this is not what most 10.6.1 users are experiencing. I'd look for old Kernel extensions or other plugins causing problems. Especially with Safari I'd start by getting rid of all third party plugins and not installing any until things have firmed up. Oh and stay away from flash based sites or run in 64 bit mode.

Honestly my system runs fine. Safari is better than it has ever been, the system itself is very snappy and most of my old software ran fine or has been updated.

Dave


This was the 500mb that was missing from the original install disc?

Kernal panics on my Imac, MacBook, my goodness I'm looking forward to some improvements. Safari hangs, apps hang, boot up isn't as good as 10.5. Beach ball city right now.

I love Apple, but they are definitely lacking when it comes to this OS right now.
 
There's a Snow Leopard-friendy version of this driver available...

I hope they fix the sil3132 driver problems , à lot of express cards for esata are working with this driver and i get kernel panics now everytime i connect à drive to my card, also my canon lide50 scanner is not working anymore byt i think that is a diffrent driver and more something Canon should fix and not Apple

I had the same problem. Just a couple days ago downloaded one from this link:

http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-687-7-dynex-2-port-esata-ii-expresscard-adapter.aspx

Seems to work (you might need to reboot after installing.)

Bart
 
I am actually wondering how much code is actually in the drivers which Apple use? how dependent are they on Intel when it comes to supporting x3100 and 950? I'm always amazed at seeing that the open source drivers and OpenGL implementation seems to be light years ahead of what should be paid programmers.

It took the open source devs a decade to come up with a good OpenGL implementation. They always seem to have a major graphic stack replacement every 4-5 years that just doesn't work like the previous stack and would take a year or two to catch up. Not to mention, they don't have compatibility with all graphic cards and in some cases, it would take half a year to get decent drivers for new graphic cards.

You used the word, "seems", they aren't light years ahead of anybody. They look like it but they aren't.

Makes me wonder whether 10.7 will be the eventual kernel switch to 64bit. will we see 10.7 being released at the end of next year given that this is the basis of a new OS where all the major features can be added based on the new technologies introduced.
Depends if we did see the last of all new technologies being introduced. I can't help feeling that Apple wasn't able to get everything done in time for the W7 release and had to pull some stuff out. They could've waited a month or two to include 64bit driver suite for all Intel GMAs but they didn't.

I think 10.7 is another one of those two years release like Leopard.

I've never liked the idea of delta - it might save a couple of megs and some minutes by the idea of patching is akin to hoping that things don't go pear shaped. Its amazing the number of people here who do install the delta, have problems but when they install the combo - none of the same problems crop up.
Majority of people who install delta don't have problems. Most of them don't come to the forum and actually say this. Majority of complains always show up in forums because that's the only public option.

Yeap, unfortunately Silverlight, the alternative, hasn't be full opened and standardised by ECMA - if it did, and Microsoft produced Silverlight development tools for Mac OS X - it would mop the flaw with Flash.
Totally agree. MS is a frigging moron for not realizing this. Their development suite is top quality and people have no problem paying for the license. I would rather use VS than XCode if MS releases it for the Mac. They could have VS be another one of the cash cows if they just open source Silverlight and several other technologes for free and just charge for the development. I doubt anybody can come up with a better dev suite than MS, look at Moonlight dev suite, they suck last time I check.


Unstable? you mean useless users installing crap like 1password and wondering why things go pear shaped? the same nincompoops who install extensions BASED ON UNDOCUMENTED/PRIVATE FRAMEWORKS WHICH GUARANTEE NO COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN RELEASES and then whine when things go down the toilet?
I understand stuff like APE, but 1password isn't crap. 1password is one of the best software available for the Mac and a serious must have for people who wants password manager. It promotes better security. Not to mention Glims, another hackie for Safari that people love. But I agree, APE as hackie is the worse fraking thing ever developed. I hated it.

As for private frameworks or undocumented API, unfortunately, there's nothing else those companies can do. Apple will not release a public API for Safari, they don't believe in the same thing as Mozilla or Google when providing plugins for browser. 1Password managed to figure out how to get it working fine without causing additional crashes to Safari in both 32/64bit modes. I don't think the fault is at them, the majority of the fault should be placed on Apple.

People create their own personal hell - Snow Leopard isn't perfect but it is a f---k load better than Vista was at this point.
Yea I worked in IT, people manage to screw things up that's just seem impossible for the rest of us.

Vista SP2 is not bad, original Vista was ugly and bad but it took MS a long time to fix it up. Apple isn't perfect either. They managed to screw things up as well with their first point release.

I just hope that Apple put 10.6.2 under the microscope for another 3 weeks - go absolutely hardcore checking. I would sooner tolerate some bugginess until 10.6.2 arrives instead of it being delivered soon with bugger all problems fixed.
LOL, Apple should've gone hardcore checking with the first point release, not .2 release. I doubt SL will become optimized and stable for another several releases. I would say 10.6.5 should be good enough, that's anywhere 5-10 months away.

Initially 10.6 seemed to speed things up but now, a couple of weeks later, I find lots of little glitches; safari and flash both crash, together and separately, often. Lots of small operations are slower than they were under 10.5...anything from opening windows to saving files. 10.6 has real problems working with the superdrive. I have repaired permissions and been on the phone w/apple tech support blah blah but the bottom line seems to be that 10.6 is just not great. I would say this is the worst upgrade experience I have ever had with an apple OS. I hope 10.6.2 is a significant improvement because apple, in my opinion, as it has become larger and more successful, has also lost something in the QA department. Ubuntu is looking better all the time!

You aren't going to have perfect experience with Ubuntu either, every OS upgrade can happen just like that. You said worst upgrade experience, have you ever considered fresh install? It fixed several members' issues just like yours.

Honestly, I would like to see some improvements to Safari 4 as well. (I know that this would usually be a separate release). While Safari 4 and 64-bit finally caught the browser up to speed with other browsers in many aspects, Safari is still really bare-boned as far as features go and has a lot of room for improvement. So yeah, it's fast now, and reasonably stable with 64-bit, but give me something not practically useless like Coverflow and Top Sites in the next update. Every other browser is making great strides.
That's cuz Apple thinks they are the only one in the world who can make software that everybody loves and nothing else is needed. They have this policy and thus they won't be opening up an API for plugins for Safari. They hated the fact that flash was causing majority of the crashes in Safari, you think they want to open it up to more? Unfortunately, opening up the API will bring in possible additional slowdowns, crashes and memory leaks. That happens to Firefox as well a lot of time.
 
I don't agree at all. It feels at least as good as 10.5.8 did (it's even a bit quicker). No major issues for me – I don't know why it seems some people always have trouble... :|

You know, interestingly, I didn't post looking for agreement, I shared my experience. I think it's great that you haven't had any of the problems. I think it's odd that you chose to put me down in your post simply because we had different experiences with software. What is the purpose of that kind of communication?
 
You know, interestingly, I didn't post looking for agreement, I shared my experience. I think it's great that you haven't had any of the problems. I think it's odd that you chose to put me down in your post simply because we had different experiences with software. What is the purpose of that kind of communication?

He's disagreeing with your opinion that 10.6 was buggy and sharing his experience with 10.6, same thing you're doing just the opposite. he didn't single you out for his comment and just talking about some people in general.
 
I had the same problem. Just a couple days ago downloaded one from this link:

http://www.dynexproducts.com/pc-687-7-dynex-2-port-esata-ii-expresscard-adapter.aspx

Seems to work (you might need to reboot after installing.)

Bart

Thank you Bart , i'll give it à try as soon as i can ;-)

PS, i just checked out the url at work and these drivers are for the adaptors for in macbooks , i'm using the lacie Card with 2 esata connections in combination with sharkoon pro dual esata enclosure , as far as i can tell it uses the sil3132 driver that is being used by many, many other manufacturers of pci cards
 
GMA950 Video Fix

Hoping that this update fixes the issue with GMA950 video cards unable to render proper shading, etc. This bug surfaced after Snow Leopard upgrade. Affects MacBook whites and Mac Minis.

Crossing my fingers.
 
I am wondering the same thing. Hopefully we will be able to, as I want to at least try out 64-bit kernel and extensions.

You can, but it takes a bit if trickery.

http://netkas.org/?p=189

Go there, and follow the instructions. Don't copy and paste the console commands and know what they mean before you take action.

It's now running on mine. Basically you are going to replace your current boot file with the boot64 you download. This is simulate a 5,2 mac ident and get your 64 kernel going after you edit a pref file.
 
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