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Mac OS X 10.6.5 and iTunes 10.1 to Launch Tomorrow? iOS 4.2 on Friday?

nixiemaiden said:
I completely agree and am not planning on upgrading as a result of the switch. All of the apps that I use are on my front page so it isn't like I need folders.

If it is the same multitasking that is on the iPod touch then it is a joke. The purpose was to make it so apps didn't have to reload but they are still getting cleared out of ram and when I open them from the multitasking bar they have to totally reload and log me in again...Really no different than just clicking on the button from my home screen.

I don't have a wireless printer so that isn't really a feature I need either.

I just don't see the point of upgrading for features I don't really need when I know how frustrated I am going to get with the rotation lock switch.

If my apps stop working at some point, I guess that means it will be time to move on to a better product that actually gives their users a choice.
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Good for you. What you going to do when a rogue app on your android sends your identity to China? You will beg for us to take you back, but we won't.
 
PsstGreek said:
Ahh okay. Thanks for the reply.
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The money ones would be similar to saying xp vista and 7. They are big updates.



On another note I always use the mute switch on my iphone and the lock on my iPad. I think the mute is a better choice for a few reasons. One being that the rocker mute is annoying because I want to lower the volume a bit without muting. Also muting is sometimes done when not using the device to when the lock is used when using the device so the soft lock is better IMO.
 
iPhoneFour said:
Unless they address screwing up the iPad rotation lock-switch, they can choke on the upgrade. I'm not trading one flick of a switch for 5 gestures. That's not an upgrade - that's self-abuse.
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are you serious?! ios 4 is going to make the ipad so much better!

I am not doubting, but what do you use rotation lock for? I have never used that on my ipad.


Cougarcat said:
Of course. They've gotten used to a feature, and don't want it removed.

Why is it so hard for Apple to make this an option?
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its not hard at all,

apple just doesn't see the need for orientation lock.
 
Mattsasa said:
I am not doubting, but what do you use rotation lock for? I have never used that on my ipad.
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Well, to lock the rotation mainly... !

Just because you have never used it doesn't mean no-one else has, does it?

I agree to ignore iOS 4.2 only because of the orientation lock change is disproportionate to the other benefits we should get from it, but I think Apple are being stubborn idiots about this issue for no good reason. I'll be upgrading, but I will really miss the physical orientation lock.

Mattsasa said:
its not hard at all,

apple just doesn't see the need for orientation lock.
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So you're saying until now Apple, themselves, chose to assign the switch with a completely unnecessary function that they don't see the need for, and are now going to replicate that unnecessary function in software, for no reason.

That doesn't really make sense. Apple clearly see the need for it. They just seem to have decided that a switch that mutes the volume is more important than a switch that locks the orientation. So they are allowed to change their minds on the issue - but the paying customer who may well like it how it was, isn't given the same luxury. It's a shame.
 
reckless2k2 said:
I do prefer the rotation lock switch to changing it in the task tray. It's faster and when I need it then it's usually when I need it fast. We already have a fast mute by holding down the volume rocker. It still does the fast mute even in GM.
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While I am very sad that the rotation lock is moving to the multitasking bar, I understand the unifying idea they are going for; and since I use the rotation lock on my iPhone some times, it shouldn't be a problem. What I was hoping for though, is that with the change of the switch to a mute button, fast mute would be removed (I FREAKING HATE IT). I want to go down five notches and instead I mute the blasted thing! If Apple is going for a unifying idea, then get RID of the fast mute!

Anyhow, I'm sad to hear it is still in there. :(
 
Mattsasa said:
are you serious?! ios 4 is going to make the ipad so much better!

I am not doubting, but what do you use rotation lock for? I have never used that on my ipad.




its not hard at all,

apple just doesn't see the need for orientation lock.
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Then why did apple put the lock in in the first place?

You tellin' me they don't know what they are doing?
 
Porco said:
Well, to lock the rotation mainly... !

Just because you have never used it doesn't mean no-one else has, does it?

I agree to ignore iOS 4.2 only because of the orientation lock change is disproportionate to the other benefits we should get from it, but I think Apple are being stubborn idiots about this issue for no good reason. I'll be upgrading, but I will really miss the physical orientation lock.
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I wasn't doubting the use of it! thats why I asked! I understand it locks the screen orientation, but i don't understand when it becomes useful. again i am not saying its not useful, i am just asking when it does become useful.

side thought: aren't you dyeing to get multitasking and folders and more?

Porco said:
So you're saying until now Apple, themselves, chose to assign the switch with a completely unnecessary function that they don't see the need for, and are now going to replicate that unnecessary function in software, for no reason.

That doesn't really make sense. Apple clearly see the need for it. They just seem to have decided that a switch that mutes the volume is more important than a switch that locks the orientation. So they are allowed to change their minds on the issue - but the paying customer who may well like it how it was, isn't given the same luxury. It's a shame.
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I am saying apple is choosing to assign the switch to a necessary function that they have gotten many requests for. to replace a function that they are are putting on the taskbar.


xlii said:
Then why did apple put the lock in in the first place?

You tellin' me they don't know what they are doing?
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I don't know why! thats why I asked!!!
 
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alectheking said:
UH OH!
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...or_airprint_through_macs_and_windows_pcs.html
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That doesn't look good...

"support for AirPrint on Windows and Mac has been cancelled."

Apple just isn't hitting on all cylinders lately - misfires in several different directions....

airprint-101109.jpg
 
HarryKeogh said:
So you'd rather wade through page after page of apps instead of getting folders with the new upgrade? I figure having folders would save me a lot more time than the two seconds more it will now take to lock the rotation. And I maybe use that switch once or twice a day (if that). I'd use folders constantly.
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While I am also extremely pissed off about the switch being changed from the very useful screen rotation lock (which I use quite often) to a mute switch (which I have no use for on the iPad, its not a phone) I'll still take the massive advantages from the update over the minor annoyance, and just keep bitching and complaining about the change in the function of the switch until hopefully it gets changed back in a future update.
 
Mattsasa said:
I wasn't doubting the use of it! thats why I asked! I understand it locks the screen orientation, but i don't understand when it becomes useful. again i am not saying its not useful, i am just asking when it does become useful.
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Well different people will have different uses - for me I like to lock the orientation if I'm using the iPad in bed for instance, to stop it automatically switching about if I slightly move in the wrong direction.

Mattsasa said:
side thought: aren't you dyeing to get multitasking and folders and more?
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Yes, should be great. Folders especially, for me. That's completely irrelevant to the orientation lock though, other than to get the new good stuff I am going to have to put up with new bad stuff. The good outweighs the bad for me, but there's no real need for any bad at all, it's just a silly stubborn 'we are always right even when we change our minds' attitude from Apple. Just give us the option! Gah.

Mattsasa said:
I am saying apple is choosing to assign the switch to a necessary function that they have gotten many requests for. to replace a function that they are are putting on the taskbar.
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That's all fine, if they gave us the option which way round we had it. I'm sure there are people who will find the switch being to mute a better thing. I don't want to deny them that - I would just prefer that Apple give those of us who like the functionality as it is now to be able to keep it that way.
 
Jamie0003 said:
Why make such a big deal out of something so small? If it's that much of a problem, jailbreak it!
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because a lot of people aren't willing to hack something that cost over $500.

I'm really curious about where and how people are using their iPads that they are needing to constantly mute and unmute the device.
 
Porco said:
Well different people will have different uses - for me I like to lock the orientation if I'm using the iPad in bed for instance, to stop it automatically switching about if I slightly move in the wrong direction.
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In 3.2 I was using the orientation lock switch very frequently, for the same reasons.

Since then, I've been using all the beta versions of 4.2 , as well as the GM build, and I never missed the physical orientation lock.

Double click on home button, one flick to the right, and tap the lock button, and you're done. It takes 2 seconds, seriously.

And why am I happy about that change ? because now i can instantly mute any alert sound (email, background skype calls, push notifications from various apps...).

Very useful before going to sleep, or entering a meeting.


You should give it a try, I'm sure you won't regret it.
Also, 4.2 brings awesome features all across the board :)
 
noelbernie said:
Double click on home button, one flick to the right, and tap the lock button, and you're done. It takes 2 seconds, seriously.
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You should give it a try, I'm sure you won't regret it.
Also, 4.2 brings awesome features all across the board :)
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Yeah, I have an iPhone 4 so I already have a good idea of how it will work on the iPad - I still prefer having the physical switch lock the orientation. To be honest I'd rather have the switch lock the orientation on the iPhone as well, as I leave my phone muted nearly all the time anyway. The software implementation is nice enough, but the switch is easier. They should give us all the option to use the device how we want to, especially in this particularly silly instance the only thing that separates the official use of the switch is an OS update.

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to 4.2, this is just a silly little fly in the ointment for me.
 
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