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Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Shipping in September: $29 for Leopard Users

HyperZboy said:
The last Powermac G5 was discontinued in August, 2006!

The last Powerbook was discontinued in April, 2006!

The last iMac G5 was discontinued in January 2006!

Some of these machines are LESS THAN THREE YEARS OLD!

Wake up to the facts and stop throwing troll facts out!


(Source: www.Everymac.com)
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When would you have liked Apple to make the switch to Intel? These systems could run the latest and greatest OS right up until today, or rather, Septemeber of this year.

Next time don't drop $10,000+ on computers unless your employer's picking up the costs. And if you're an enthusiast with that much $$$ lying around, you should have used it to move some of your units over to the new archtiecture a long time ago.

LOL . . . "troll facts."


Sambo110 said:
Ok, answer me this. Do you actually want/need SL? Seriously? Leopard is fine and I wouldn't mind having to continue using it.
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He's just piss.ed because he blew over 10 grand when it might not have been the wisest thing to do out-of-pocket, and at the wrong time. But it's all a matter of attitude, and he clearly has the wrong one.
 
HyperZboy said:
The other thing that bugs me is that we all know Apple has internal PPC builds of Snow Leopard, not to mention probably builds for ARM chips as well in development. Otherwise, there would never have been a surprise INTEL Mac in the first place running Mac OS X.
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Considering that "everyone knows this," you're the first person to ever claim this. Where is your evidence or proof that Apple is withdrawing PowerPC builds of Snow Leopard from the public?
 
Sambo110 said:
Why do you want it so much? Leopard runs great, and the improvements were meant for Intel Mac's. Sure, if it had a whole new UI I could understand you wanting it, but the changes aren't exactly something you notice. Only a few here and there.
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runs great for you, I can freeze the whole system just clicking on the "Allow guests connect to this computer" checkbox in system preferences. Worst than Windows 98.
 
Trinity said:
Neither do I but before Leopard, MacOS X was supposed to be protected against applications crashing. It's 100% reproducible and it's the 3rd Mac with the same behaviour.
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100% reproducible?

Is it in the Sharing prefs? I'd like to reproduce it.
 
This?

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Works fine for me.

Or this:

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Also fine.
 
sd2009 said:
This?

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Works fine for me.
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It's 100% reproducible in MY computer. Of course there is a problem related with my user cause it doesn't happen before transfering my data. But this is not the question, the question is why a problem wiht one application can knock the whole operating system 10.5.7. It never happened to my since 10.1.0
 
Truffy said:
But you don't speak for all PPC users though. Apple had to make the break sooner or later. Sure, I'm a little bummed that my G5 won't run SL, and that I won't be able to upgrade the OS X Server on my G4, but it had to end sooner or later ... and they still work! When I need to, I'll upgrade to new and shiny! :D
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New and shiny what, though? That's the question. I'd go to an Intel desktop if Apple offered something to replace my PowerMac G4. But when you look at the gap between the mini and the Pro, there just isn't anything there.
 
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Guess it's not "100% reproducible" after all . . .

Add to that, I have absolutely no issues with the rest of Leopard. Along with most of its userbase.

Please don't assume your isolated issues reflect everyone else's experience.


Trinity said:
It's 100% reproducible in MY computer. Of course there is a problem related with my user cause it doesn't happen before transfering my data. But this is not the question, the question is why a problem wiht one application can knock the whole operating system.
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What does your Console log say?
 
*LTD* said:
Guess it's not "100% reproducible" after all . . .

Add to that, I have absolutely no issues with the rest of Leopard. Along with most of its userbase.

Please don't assume your isolated issues reflect everyone else's experience.




What does your Console log say?
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Forget about it. All this comes because somebody asked "Why do you want it so much?". Well I want it so much just because Leopard crashes like I never saw a MacOS crashing since version 9.
 
Trinity said:
runs great for you, I can freeze the whole system just clicking on the "Allow guests connect to this computer" checkbox in system preferences. Worst than Windows 98.
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Wow, and the impression I'm always getting around here is that Macs are perfect, and never have any problems, ever.

I used to get a similar freeze when selecting similar options, and I eventually traced the problem back to my router, which had some kind of file sharing issue. Did you check your router to make sure it's up-to-date, and all its options are configured properly?
 
Sambo110 said:
Seriously? That sucks, it shouldn't be that easy.
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It's better that it is.

All DRM and activation does is piss off honest users. Dishonest users will always bypass the measures. Look at the game Spore. EA piped it full of the worst kind of DRM, a cracked version was on The Pirate Bay within a day of it's release. In fact look up Spore on Amazon, all 1 star reviews, because of the DRM.

In short, dishonest users will always pirate, honest users will always pay, no matter what security measures are in use. Apple are just about the best technology company in the world for users rights, that is not arguable and long may it remain that way.
 
Kar98 said:
Snow Leopard improves the reliability of ejecting discs and external drives, and you can select text in PDFs! Squeeeee! Sign me up! :D
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I don't understand - you can already select text in PDFs now. Did you mean something else?

KALLT said:
A shame that iChat doesn't get support for other IM clients. No one I know uses AIM, they use MSN instead. But I hate the client from Microsoft, and don't like the other clients either. iChat would be perfect, looks really great. Alas, AIM only, and that in times of Meebo and eBuddy!
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iChat has supported Jabber/XMPP (the protocol Google uses) for a while too.


I think Snow Leopard will be worthwhile for some of the security enhancements under the hood - better address space randomization for one. There are some areas like that where OS X has been lagging Linux and Windows. Now if it'll just walk people through setting up a non-admin account for day-to-day use, it'll all be good. :D
 
deconstruct60 said:
Since this is not priced as a major upgrade perhaps Apple will announce that they are extended support for Leopard longer for the machines that got toasted (or shafted; depending upon your point of view whether Apple should stand up to their support expectations ) here.
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You touch on my other favorite Apple peeve: Lack of security support for software. My demand is five years of security updates for an OS after the last date of retail sale. In Apple's case, that means an OS would get five years of security updates after the next major OS version is released. Practically speaking, this means about 2 extra years of support for an OSX version at the rate Apple seems to release new versions.

Seriously, what is so hard about expecting a computer with "the worlds best operating system" to be supported on the Internet for five years after you buy it?? Microsoft blows Apple to Mars on this issue. So does Nintendo, in terms of how long they will support/repair old platforms.
 
Sky Blue said:
You can't have made any new Apple purchases in the last three years, as they haven't been selling PPC Macs.
Most of the Optimizations are for Intel hardware.
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WRONG! I've got G5s on AppleCare through the end of this year.

LTD said:
Apple phased out PowerPC around late '05 and January '06. I think by now they'd like to push their Intel-based Macs. It's 2009. If your setup works fine, then keep using it. Apple needs to move forward. You don't.
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No, Apple shipped their first Intel in early 06, and they stopped selling G5s about the very end of 2006. Apple needs to take responsibility. They pretend they are world class, then deliver a Happy Meal.

nuckinfuts said:
Snow Leopard is strong in areas that simply cannot be easily replicated in PPC. Sure PPC supports 64-bit but they L2 caches in PPC Macs are small and there's not the same logic in the PPC that snoop caches to make sure data is not cold or redundant.
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Excellent point. In defense of PPC, larger caches are less necessary on PPC because of the 4 times larger register file than 32-bit Intel. The prefetch has more time to bring data not in the cache to the CPU.
 
The freezing issue with allowing users to connect to the computer could be a network issue (this may have been mentioned). I've never messed with mac networks but in windows networks this is common among shares, slower networks, etc. The machine will freeze up because the network itsself or a remote device connected on the network.
 
Can't beat the price!

Sad we have to wait 'til September though... :(

Side note: The fact that Apple has worked on the startup/shutdown/wireless issues really excites me. About time my MPB will finally run without glitches.
 
Developer Preview

Just wondering, what's a developer preview anyways? Does it mean that everything is pretty much frozen and Apple's now giving it to developers so they can update their apps?
 
$29 dollars for an upgrade is smart recession era pricing. Kudos to Apple Inc.

Reduced prices on some hardware products was also a good move, too. I enjoyed the keynote via Macrumors.
 
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