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Apple hasn't really provided benchamarks - these will hopefully be forthcoming from leaks from developers once they've installed the new seed that has been provided at WWDC.

Apple's updated both the Snow Loepard and the Snow Leopard Server pages.
I'll add the details and upgrade the 1st post in a while.

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/
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Pushing contacts, callendares, project collaboaration, podcasts, and more
64 bit goodness
Speed improvement on 10.5
Servers made easy


http://www.apple.com/macosx/
overview_hero20090608.jpg

GBs freed up when you intall 10.6
GCD
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Better accessibility (I'd imagine the voice control the iPhone has will be in 10.6?)
Exchange support
 
Snow Leopard will improve performance on ALL Intel Macs - even older ones like yours. Since you're on Tiger, you do NOT qualify for the $29 price - you would have to pay the usual $129 instead. Note that the first generation Mac Minis will see barely any performance boost, due to not even being dual-core. The more modern your Mac, the more dramatic the improvement, though.

His CPU is also 32bit, so he won't get the most performance either.
 
Hi,
I want to buy my first Mac and I was ready to buy it in February, then I found out that SL is going to be ready in first quarter ,so I waited until now and here we go…I have to wait another 3-4 months…:(
What would you suggest, should I buy it now and then upgrade to SL later, or should I wait until September?

I’m asking because I’ve never used Mac before and I’ve been PC user …

Thanks.

Thank you for your replies.
I want to buy IMac, because I have 2 Toshiba laptops already, I’ve never used Mac before and I want to try it ,after what I saw and read about Mac, I like it more than PC so far.
10$,29$ or even 129 $ is not big deal for me, the only question is ,would it be better if I buy it preinstalled already and if they are going to put different hardware is September on those new Macs with SL preinstalled?
Thanks.
 
After reading these specs:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

Looks like my original Mac Pro 2006 isn't going to take advantage of some of the new technology. :(

And so much for Quicktime hardware acceleration for anyone with a MacBook with the Intel Chipset like the X3100.

-Kevin
 
Anyone know what is going on next Tuesday June 16th, there seems to be some kind of announcement regarding SL. Check it out, maybe we'll hear a final date
http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/

Also, just wanted to hear you guyses thought on whether I should buy a mac now or wait on SL. I really want to take advantage of getting a free printer and iPod and it would cost me only $10 to upgrade. Or I could just wait with my current iBook. Just wanted to hear if you guys thought there would be a major hardware update between now and September
 
Upgrading an OS has always given me the heebie-jeebies and I prefer to do a clean wipe/install. I assume that the $29 upgrade will not allow for such a thing? Can anybody convince me (which is probably not hard) that an upgrade isn't as sloppy as I think it is?

Thanks!
 
Upgrading an OS has always given me the heebie-jeebies and I prefer to do a clean wipe/install. I assume that the $29 upgrade will not allow for such a thing? Can anybody convince me (which is probably not hard) that an upgrade isn't as sloppy as I think it is?

Thanks!

Why do people get so tense that they do an erase & install, all it does is overwrite your OS, does not touch your files at all.
 
I want to do a clean format not because I'm scared of stuff being deleted, but because I want to a fresh brand new start with a brand new OS. They better allow people to be able to do that. Are we expected never to reformat?

I reformat every 6 months.
 
I want to do a clean format not because I'm scared of stuff being deleted, but because I want to a fresh brand new start with a brand new OS. They better allow people to be able to do that. Are we expected never to reformat?

I reformat every 6 months.

I also had planed to do a clean install, I'm pretty sure you can but if not then I will skip SL, won't do much for my MacBook anyway and all I really want is QuickTime X and that's not worth $129.
 
I want to do a clean format not because I'm scared of stuff being deleted, but because I want to a fresh brand new start with a brand new OS. They better allow people to be able to do that. Are we expected never to reformat?

I reformat every 6 months.

Erase and Install will be there. The upgrade disc should provide all the options that a full install will provide. Apple isn't stupid to require a full leopard install first, otherwise there's no point of actually being proud of installing Snow Leopard in less time before because you would need 2 more hours to install Leopard and then to install SL.
 
Extra Features in SL for Safari, Crash Resistance and 64bit JS.

Anyone know ALL the security improvements SL makes? Apple doesn't list them all. I'm looking for REAL ASLR (not the limited kind in Leopard that hacker from pwn2own says is pointless...) and some other stuff. All they list is better hardware NX (no execute) and something about safer argument passing.

And speaking of secure.. Safari will be helped by being 64bit in that regard, but what about Firefox? Mozilla folks going to eventually release 64-bit firefox for Snow Leopard and not just linux?

I know.. i'm geeking out. big time.
 
Just called Apple online store and they confirmed that they will send me a disk, for $9,95 and the upgrade disc will provide all the options that a full install provides.
I prefer to do clean install, not just upgrade.
Looks like I’m buying IMac tomorrow:)…lost 3 months:( waiting until June 8,hoping that they will release SL right after WWDC….
 
Apple hasn't really provided benchamarks - these will hopefully be forthcoming from leaks from developers once they've installed the new seed that has been provided at WWDC.

Apple's updated both the Snow Loepard and the Snow Leopard Server pages.
I'll add the details and upgrade the 1st post in a while.

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/

Pushing contacts, callendares, project collaboaration, podcasts, and more
64 bit goodness
Speed improvement on 10.5
Servers made easy


http://www.apple.com/macosx/

GBs freed up when you intall 10.6
GCD

Better accessibility (I'd imagine the voice control the iPhone has will be in 10.6?)
Exchange support

And no ZFS... :mad: :( :confused:
 
'Upgrade' Disk

I have a question: I have Leopard, and I want Snow Leopard, but I'm reluctant to get an upgrade disk.

Will the $29 disk be able to do a fresh install? As in, if I have a blank HDD in my mac, will it be able to install Snow Leopard? Or would I have to install Leopard on it, and then install Snow Leopard?

Thanks!
 
Gizmodo's Everything you need to know on Snow Leopard is here

Server goodness info here

Apple's Technical Specifications for Snow Leopard
What Snow Leopard is
Accessibility features info

Technology info
OpenCL
64-bit support
Grand Central Dispatch


Pricing & Availability
$129 for Snow Leopard
$29 for those with Leopard already
$49 For those with Leopard already wanting a family pack
$9.95 for those who buy a Mac today with Leopard, and are eligible for the Mac OS X Snow Leopard Up-to-Date Program

If you purchased a qualifying system or Xserve on or after June 8, 2009 that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard, you can upgrade to Mac OS X Snow Leopard for $9.95.* (Covers product plus shipping and handling fee. U.S. customers add appropriate sales tax.) Please check back on June 16, 2009, for additional information.

- iPhone OS 3.0 comes out the day after. iPhone Comes out 2 days after that? Guess they're spreading it out a little more.
Apple's Refinements page
Apple's More refinements page

"Refined, not reinvented...when it came to designing Snow Leopard, Apple engineers had a single goal: to make a great thing even better. They searched for areas to refine, further simplify, and speed up...a few examples of how your Mac experience was fine-tuned."

Finder
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It's been completely rewritten "to take advantage of the new technologies in Snow Leopard, including 64-bit support and Grand Central Dispatch. It’s more responsive from top to bottom, with snappier performance throughout the Finder. And it includes new features such as customizable Spotlight search options and an enhanced icon view that lets you thumb through a multipage document or watch a QuickTime movie.

Exposé
- Now integrated in the Dock - you can just click and hold an application icon in the Dock and all the windows for that application will unshuffle so you can quickly change to another one.
- Look has changed - windows are displayed in an organized grid
- Activate Exposé for any open application by clicking and holding the application’s icon in the Dock

Stacks
- Dock items are now scrollable
- You can also navigate through folders in a stack to see all the files inside it

Time Machine
- Faster Backups ("Snow Leopard makes Time Machine up to 50% faster and reduces the time it takes to complete your initial backup to Time Capsule")

Speed
- Wake up (up to 100% faster)
- Shut down (up to 75% faster)
- Joining of a wireless network (up to 55% faster)
- Installation of OS X 10.6 (Up to 45% faster)
- "All native OS X apps, like Mail, Quicktime, Finder, and Safari, are fully coded for 64-bit compatibility"

Footprint
- Snow Leopard takes up less than half the disk space of the previous version, freeing about 6GB

QuickTime X
- Allows quick trimming within Quicktime, if you don't want to open up iMovie
- "more efficient media playback"
- Live HTTP-based live streaming
- More info here
- GPU-accelerated video decoding
- Visual chapters
- Screen recording

Chinese Character Input Tool
- Draw them right on the Multi-Touch trackpad in your Mac notebook. They’ll appear on the screen in a new input window, which recommends characters based on what you drew and lets you choose the right one. The input window even offers suggestions for subsequent characters based on what you chose.

iChat
- "more reliable and more accessible [video iChat]
- "Includes technology to address many common router incompatibilities that can interfere with connections"
- "If iChat can’t make a direct connection, it will use the AIM relay server to create a successful chat session"
- "Now more people can have high-resolution, 640-by-480-pixel video chats as only 1/3rd the upstream bandwidth needed compared with previously - 300 Kbps instead of 900 Kbps.
- iChat Theater now offers 640-by-480 resolution, 4x better than before

Contextual Services Menu
- Lets you use features of one application while working in another — for example, make a note in Mail while browsing in Safari.
- Shows just the services appropriate for the application you’re using or content you’re viewing rather than all available services
- Can access services with a right click of your mouse or Control-click of the trackpad
- Can configure the menu to show only the services you want
- Can create your own services using Automator

Printer improvements
- When you plug in a printer, Mac OS X can download the latest driver available over the Internet
- Periodically checks to make sure it has the latest driver. If not, it downloads the newest version through Software Update. Easy.

Core Location Technology
- Automatic time zone setup (Using the Core Location technology, it locates known Wi-Fi hotspots to set the time zone automatically,)

Preview
- Better PDF text selection (- No more (or maybe just less) mixing of text from multiple columns in the wrong order)
- GCD used for search

Mail
- Microsoft Exchange support "With Snow Leopard the Mac now has out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, something even Windows PCs don’t have"
- "no need for time-consuming installations or complicated configurations. You set it up just by entering your email address and password — the rest happens automatically."
- "Then, instead of using Outlook to access Exchange services such as email, calendar invitations, and Global Address Lists, you’ll use Mail, iCal, and Address Book."
- You then get "Spotlight for systemwide searching, Quick Look for viewing attachments without opening them, data detectors that make it easy to act on information in email, and more."
- More on Exchange here
- More on mail here

Safari 4

Disk eject
- Fewer of disk eject errors
- Will tell you which app to blame if you get one, so you can quit it and eject the drive properly

File sharing
- Bonjour in Snow Leopard: With Snow Leopard and a compatible AirPort Extreme or Time Capsule base station, your computer can go to sleep yet continue to share its files with other computers and devices, waking when you need it and sleeping when you don’t. Learn more about energy efficiency and the Mac"
More on energy efficiency


Other tidbits
- Multi-Touch gestures in older Mac models. All Mac notebooks with Multi-Touch trackpads now support three- and four-finger gestures.
- The Exchange meeting arrangement looks great. Let it find when people and a room are free. Set up a meeting quickly through a group in Exchange - wiull be interesting to see the details. (Preview Microsoft OFfice files without needing Office? Nice!)
Just to go over one more thing - it's pretty amazing to think that Apple has decent and identifiable icons for a lot of their projects -
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Any one see any new ones? :)
- “Adjust view options for Spotlight results just as you can with any Finder window. Modify the default view as well as the size, labeling, and alignment of icons.”
- Seems to
 
i have a question about the mac box set: by the way it's worded in the mac site, it sounds like there could be a delay between snow leopard coming out for upgrade discs and the mac box set being released. will they both be coming out same day, or will tiger users have to wait longer for snow leopard?
 
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.266 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Having never upgraded a [computer's] OS, this upgrade will be a first for me but I definately can't wait until September. Quick question though, does anyone know when we are gonna get a concrete date? Like what day in September? Just wondering.
 
sorry if this has been asked befire, but will the $29 SL update include iLife 09?
I was about to get it yesterday for a number of reasons, now, if it will be included with the SL update, then I'll wait.
Thanks.
 
sorry if this has been asked befire, but will the $29 SL update include iLife 09?
I was about to get it yesterday for a number of reasons, now, if it will be included with the SL update, then I'll wait.
Thanks.

No it doesn't. You'll want to wait for the refresh to the Mac Box Set which presumably in September will give you Snow Leopard/iWork 09/iWork 09 and it'll be cheaper than if you purchased the items separately.
 
Anyone know ALL the security improvements SL makes? Apple doesn't list them all. I'm looking for REAL ASLR (not the limited kind in Leopard that hacker from pwn2own says is pointless...) and some other stuff. All they list is better hardware NX (no execute) and something about safer argument passing.

And speaking of secure.. Safari will be helped by being 64bit in that regard, but what about Firefox? Mozilla folks going to eventually release 64-bit firefox for Snow Leopard and not just linux?

I know.. i'm geeking out. big time.

I couldn't find any security information either on Apple's site for Snow Leopard.

Mozilla will eventually release 64bit version of Firefox, the problem is that some of the code they use are still Carbon. Since there is no 64bit Carbon, they need to rewrite all the Carbon code into Cocoa. I don't know the latest status, I just know that as of right now, we are not anywhere close to seeing 64bit Firefox. It wouldn't matter considering that we don't have 64bit Flash player anyway. It would take years to get both Firefox64 and Flash64.
 
I have a question: I have Leopard, and I want Snow Leopard, but I'm reluctant to get an upgrade disk.

Will the $29 disk be able to do a fresh install? As in, if I have a blank HDD in my mac, will it be able to install Snow Leopard? Or would I have to install Leopard on it, and then install Snow Leopard?

Thanks!
Dude, read up the line. Somebody answered this hours ago. :D

Again, it makes no sense to tout 45% faster install times with SL only to be forced to install Leopard first.
 
how much will this be in pounds? as i live in england

I will be upgrading from leopard 10.5.7.
 
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