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So it was called "Intel Mac OS X 10_7"....
Thats intersting. Maybe Apple is finally working on their own CPUs?

That's just the version of the Operating System.

Mine says : Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Safari/531.21.10


BTW. It says Mozilla because the WebKit is based off Konqueror.


You can thank Marc Andreesen and the University of Illinois and Spry,Inc. for the browser.
 
Gee Wiz

With 10.7 maybe we can load Win 7 using Boot Camp, without the black screen of death halting our pathetic efforts.

I bought AAPL to escape the MS "Blue Screen of Death" Now I have the Black screen.

Have I made progress?
 
For the guys asking for the Marble Theme:
http://www.maxthemes.com/downloads/aquaextreme201.zip

puff-aquaextreme201a.jpg
 
I don't think it makes so much sense to have your secret next generation product leaking out like that, user agent strings are easy to obscure. I really don't understand why web servers really need to know that information.



Why not? Operating systems today aren't such simple things as they used to be.
Everyone knows that there will be a future operating system from Apple and that it would probably be numbered OS X 10.7. Apple is revealing nothing by leaking a user agent string. It's not something that the competition can learn anything from.

While I agree that operating systems are complex, there's no reason for Apple require a full year of beta for 10.7. I don't think they've ever had a full year of beta for their developers plus a release candidate cycle.

Arguably, 10.6 and 10.7 are simpler in many regards compared to previous versions since they no longer have to support PowerPC architecture. Certainly, the removal of PowerPC code caused the OS to decrease in size between Leopard and Snow Leopard.
 
What does 10.7 have to do with the device?
Conventional wisdom would hold that core elements of OS X 10.7 would provide the basis of iPhone OS 4.0 and whatever the tablet is going to run (which many expect to be a souped-up version of iPhone OS 4.0).

Additionally, it would provide a common set of libraries, etc. for the developer tools for all supported architectures (Intel, ARM).
 
What does 10.7 have to do with the device?

I don't see any connection. Ask AtHomeBoy_2000, that was his contention.

Conventional wisdom would hold that core elements of OS X 10.7 would provide the basis of iPhone OS 4.0 and whatever the tablet is going to run (which many expect to be a souped-up version of iPhone OS 4.0).

Additionally, it would provide a common set of libraries, etc. for the developer tools for all supported architectures (Intel, ARM).

Why would we have to wait for 10.7 for that? Wouldn't we expect it in an upcoming 10.6 update?
 
The file overwrite/merge feature is the ONLY real thing that i want for 10.7 before i can fully recommend OSX to non mac users (aka stupid windows users).

Nothing more fun than having to try and recover files because they just copied and pasted the whole folder instead of the contents.

Totally agree, even through I got so used to it years ago and forgot about it.

This would be the biggest improvement Apple could make to os X.
 
Conventional wisdom would hold that core elements of OS X 10.7 would provide the basis of iPhone OS 4.0 and whatever the tablet is going to run (which many expect to be a souped-up version of iPhone OS 4.0).

Additionally, it would provide a common set of libraries, etc. for the developer tools for all supported architectures (Intel, ARM).

10.6 already has libraries for the ARM processor.
 
My understanding (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is that Apple has several OS Dev teams, it's quite possible that 10.7 started development before 10.6 betas were even out. and although 10.8 may not have any code written yet I'd guess there's folks already at the drawing board.
This is standard practice for any large-scale operating system or software project, whether it be Linux, commercial Unix, Windows, OS X, the Oracle RDBMS, etc.

Major changes in functionality are targeted for major releases. By the time a beta is rolled out, there is generally a feature freeze meaning that no new major functionality would be introduced into that software tree as it would cause additional compatibility issues with other parts of the operating system. The beta cycle is basically to resolve current issues (i.e., stomp out bugs).

Historically, Apple does not identify late-stage betas as release candidates. Usually the number of showstopping bugs has declined to a very small number, so developers are left guessing if any late-stage beta is the penultimate or final release.

There is usually a small team of individuals whose primary duties are to maintain the prior/current release. In the Linux world, kernels with even minor numbers (like 2.2 or 2.4) were the released versions whereas development versions were odd minor numbers (like 2.1 or 2.3). For a number of years, Linus Torvalds led the development of the upcoming releases while Alan Cox led a smaller team who maintained the current release (the role is often referred to as "janitor").

Apple probably conducts frequent code reviews and if a particular project is behind, it might get pushed to a future release or the project could be downscaled so only a portion of it hits the upcoming release.

My guess is that certain functionality has already been dropped from 10.7 and is slated for 10.8. Apple also probably has forecasts on end-of-life milestones for systems (e.g., when will 32-bit Intel support be dropped).

Personally, I don't see Apple dropping 32-bit Intel support from 10.7. There are still plenty of devices out there that are 32-bit. I could see 32-bit being dropped in 10.8 though.
 
Here is the problem with your post. Most of what "broke" was simply SL not supporting the old crufty junk, APIs, and so on that old stuff relied on. So what you're advocating is Apple putting support back in for old APIs, old crufty code and mechanisms?

Well . . . yes.

How about an "instance" of 10.4.11 and an "instance" of 10.6.3 on your mac and use applications either well suited to or well debugged in, that environment and do what you need when you need. Reliably.

There is provision to run 9.2.2 apps on OSX. So the principal is sound.

Rocketman
 
It also does not support x64 on some Core 2 models - systems that run Windows x64 just
fine. That's a gap, not a transition.
It supports x64. Just not for the kernel on those specific machines. Why do you need a 64-bit kernel right now?
 
10.6 already has libraries for the ARM processor.
Yes, the point is that 10.7 would contain libraries for future processors that aren't currently supported by 10.6. Just because 10.6 has ARM libraries, it doesn't mean that the libraries would support all future ARM processors.
 
I want PPC support (i.e., 10.6 special case because of lack of features).

Good one!

Waste of time.
Classic won't run.
Useless.

Another good one! You guys are funny today.

at this point, all i want is fully customizable color schemes

please!

Something I've been wishing for a while now. I understand they're trying to maintain a sleek unified UI but some color wouldn't hurt.

I've had to click the + every time to search for images since Leopard came out. I never had to do that on Tiger once with the old Show All.

Sorting by kind sorts alphabetically by file extension instead of sorting by file type.

Edit: Sorts by application. This explains why PDFs get tossed in with images in sorting and PNGs end up at the bottom. All those files are opened with Preview. I use Quick Look about 99.999...% of the time though.

Sorting by date is still broken in the Open/Save dialog.

Edit: I don't use Preview to open files anymore since I have more or less working icon previews and using Quick Look does not update Last Opened.

There is no more column view when doing a Spotlight search.

Edit: Still missing.

It's like they don't want me to buy a Mac again. That or use Tiger and Leopard for the rest of my life.

Edit: OS X died a little for me when they got rid of this.

Oh my God, thank you! I don't know what the hell Apple was thinking when they changed Spotlight in 10.5. In 10.4, it actually useful. I mean you could search for something and EVERYTHING would show up. Plus you could categorize them. Now when you click "show all" you just get a folder with all the results thrown together. I can't understand why Apple did that because it's just so...not Apple. They took something awesome and made it worse.
 
I've had to click the + every time to search for images since Leopard came out. I never had to do that on Tiger once with the old Show All.

Sorting by kind sorts alphabetically by file extension instead of sorting by file type.

Edit: Sorts by application. This explains why PDFs get tossed in with images in sorting and PNGs end up at the bottom. All those files are opened with Preview. I use Quick Look about 99.999...% of the time though.

Sorting by date is still broken in the Open/Save dialog.

Edit: I don't use Preview to open files anymore since I have more or less working icon previews and using Quick Look does not update Last Opened.

There is no more column view when doing a Spotlight search.

Edit: Still missing.

It's like they don't want me to buy a Mac again. That or use Tiger and Leopard for the rest of my life.

Edit: OS X died a little for me when they got rid of this.

QFT

Reverted back to Tiger on my Powerbook and damn happy now!
 
So right!

10.6 is probably the worst 10.x since 10.0. Lots of problems and unhappy people.

People want things to "just work" again, not new eye candy and rearranging of the GUI.

WHY DON'T YOU FIX WHAT YOU STARTED/BROKE BEFORE STARTING SOMETHING NEW????!!!!!!!:mad:

I have been a Mac user for 18 years. The Mac experience used to be far superior and things truly did "just work".

Not any more.

My patience with Apple is wearing thin....

This opinion is getting more and more common. For one, I can completely identify with it.
 
Oh my God, thank you! I don't know what the hell Apple was thinking when they changed Spotlight in 10.5. In 10.4, it actually useful. I mean you could search for something and EVERYTHING would show up. Plus you could categorize them. Now when you click "show all" you just get a folder with all the results thrown together. I can't understand why Apple did that because it's just so...not Apple. They took something awesome and made it worse.

QFT

Reverted back to Tiger on my Powerbook and damn happy now!
Spotlight is a world of hurt with the changes made in Leopard and beyond. This goes beyond the Spotlight Show All window though.

Top Hits won't migrate to the front of the search unless you open them in an application. Quick Look won't update the Last Opened attribute. In addition sorting and Spotlight behavior aren't consistent between the Open/Save dialog and a standard Finder based Spotlight search. Sort by Date Modified in Finder and in a Spotlight search.

Tagging also is dragging cruft from years ago in the form of .DS_Store. I'm starting to take a look at OpenMeta for tagging services now.

Icon view is where I do most of my work. Apple seems to expect me to use Cover Flow or Quick Look in an Open/Save dialog though. Icon previews don't work most of the time either in a search done from the Open file dialog.
 
This opinion is getting more and more common. For one, I can completely identify with it.

Everything just works for me, so I have no idea what are you talking about. It's really amazing how some people have zero to few problems and some have a lot.
 
Windows 7 had a full year beta. :p

Didn't do them much good - I just started testing it at work. If IE isn't the default browser, can't click on outlook web links (that didn't happen in previous OSes) and if they were trying to improve power safe, "epic fail" doesn't begin to describe...

Typical MS Waste.

No, "typical" is wrong. MS has been garbage since Vista was developed and it's going downhill since. I miss "typical" - those days were heaven by comparison...
 
Didn't do them much good - I just started testing it at work. If IE isn't the default browser, can't click on outlook web links (that didn't happen in previous OSes) and if they were trying to improve power safe, "epic fail" doesn't begin to describe...
Did the Google help?
 
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