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My birthday is April 19th. I'm going to call up Steve Jobs and let him know his present to me could be to release leopard on that day. Wonder if he will or not? ;)
 
Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS :( And as much I would love to have my new Mac soon, I believe Apple will take until the end of spring to release Leopard. If that's June, that means that the earliest I can do the switch would be mid to end of July of 2007. Oh well, I guess I should stop reading so many rumors and focus on other things until July comes around...

As soon as Leopard ships the macbooks will have it either installed in them or have leopard disk put in the box. they may announce it and it take a month to start shipping, but from the time they announce it till it ships if you buy one then at the most you will have to pay for shipping and get Leopard for free.
 
I don't think so!

Unless Apple has significantly changed their seed schedule, I doubt very much that Leopard will be released in March. The latest beta was very unstable and certainly not ready for prime time. That and the fact that the releases have been very few and far between would lead me to believe late April at the earliest.
 
Unless Apple has significantly changed their seed schedule, I doubt very much that Leopard will be released in March. The latest beta was very unstable and certainly not ready for prime time. That and the fact that the releases have been very few and far between would lead me to believe late April at the earliest.
Couldn't agree with you more, as I said in an earlier post in this thread. I'm thinking that Apple is doing a lot more internal seeding of Leopard builds and a lot less external seeding, presumably to implement some of these "top-secret" features that Apple has yet to unveil. Why Apple is doing this, I don't know, but my best guess is that it's related to Time Machine, the iPhone, or some as-yet unannounced iDevice.
 
Unless Apple has significantly changed their seed schedule, I doubt very much that Leopard will be released in March. The latest beta was very unstable and certainly not ready for prime time. That and the fact that the releases have been very few and far between would lead me to believe late April at the earliest.

I'm hoping that they haven't been releasing the actual builds of Leopard with the new features (which would replace the features that are making the OS unstable so far). In my perfect fantasy world, they're doing internal testing with that stuff and they will be debuted the day they announce the launch date (or the day it launches).

Apple, I'm keeping my phone close by. Call me.
 
Couldn't agree with you more, as I said in an earlier post in this thread. I'm thinking that Apple is doing a lot more internal seeding of Leopard builds and a lot less external seeding, presumably to implement some of these "top-secret" features that Apple has yet to unveil. Why Apple is doing this, I don't know, but my best guess is that it's related to Time Machine, the iPhone, or some as-yet unannounced iDevice.

They've been very tight lipped. There have been no new features, other than a couple of non-functional "new" ones like the HFS files system replacement that somehow slipped into recent builds. The last build was, what, nearly a month ago?
 
I second that... I like Tiger but it feels faster (and snappier) on my PPC... Plus, I'm having some minor glitchs on my Intel that I didn't had on my PPC (computer doesn't always go into sleep mode by itself. When it does, it takes time for the computer to wake up, etc.)

Yes, I will definately agree with my MBP taking forever to come back from sleep.

Also beachballing on programs like Fugu and other small things like iChat. Quit annoying especially considering I have 2gb of ram.
 
Unless Apple has significantly changed their seed schedule, I doubt very much that Leopard will be released in March. The latest beta was very unstable and certainly not ready for prime time. That and the fact that the releases have been very few and far between would lead me to believe late April at the earliest.

well i hope they announce leopard end of march for release in april. at the same time they should announce updated MBP wich would then include free Leopard upgrades.
that would fit my plans because it would drive prices for refurbished MB/MBP's down.

i don't expect ilife to be included for free though.
but a cheap bundle of Leopard, iWork and iLife would be great.
 
odd topic I know, but...

anybody know why I'd need this (just found it in Software Updater)

The WWAN Support Update v1.0 provides SW support for the following WWAN products:

Available on the Cingular network:
Novatel Merlin XU870 ExpressCard (HSDPA)
Available on the Sprint network:
Novatel Wireless Merlin EX720 Express Card (EVDO Rev. A)
Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 USB Modem (USB Adapter, EVDO Rev. A)
Available on the Verizon network:
Novatel XV620 ExpressCard (EVDO Rev. 0)
Novatel V740 ExpressCard (EVDO Rev. A)
Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 (USB Adapter, EVDO Rev. A)
 
anybody know why I'd need this (just found it in Software Updater)

The WWAN Support Update v1.0 provides SW support for the following WWAN products:

Available on the Cingular network:
Novatel Merlin XU870 ExpressCard (HSDPA)
Available on the Sprint network:
Novatel Wireless Merlin EX720 Express Card (EVDO Rev. A)
Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 USB Modem (USB Adapter, EVDO Rev. A)
Available on the Verizon network:
Novatel XV620 ExpressCard (EVDO Rev. 0)
Novatel V740 ExpressCard (EVDO Rev. A)
Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 (USB Adapter, EVDO Rev. A)
That question belongs in this thread, not here.
 
We'll I've been lurking this forum for a while now reading up on the rumors and such and I don't think it has helped much. I guess it’s the very nature of rumors, but I've been getting very disappointed with the lack of reliable information about the release of 10.5. I don't believe this is this site's fault, I think it is a side-effect of the very little information about 10.5 Apple has released since the original presentation in August of last year.

I use Windows at home and Linux at work and I've been anxiously waiting (and saving) for 10.5 to come out and "do the switch" ever since the announcement in August.

I've been tempted to buy my MacBook (high-end white) already many times without waiting for 10.5 to come out, but I eventually decide to wait. I want my new Mac to come factory-installed with 10.5 along with 10.5 restore disks, and iLife '07, etc.

Problem is, I heard the MacBooks will take about a month after Leopard's release to begin shipping with the new OS :( And as much I would love to have my new Mac soon, I believe Apple will take until the end of spring to release Leopard. If that's June, that means that the earliest I can do the switch would be mid to end of July of 2007. Oh well, I guess I should stop reading so many rumors and focus on other things until July comes around...


I'm with you on this one because I have a gift card for a macbook pro...enough for the 2.33 ghz with a 160gb hdd and the apple care plan but i've been holding out for leopard. is it really worth it to wait? does anyone think the mbp's will be updated before june or july?
 
Internal Code Names

They were probably internal CODE NAMES after-the-fact. I highly doubt they had the foresight to see that coming or we would've heard about the others earlier when OS X was first released as beta (which I was a part of -- and hated.) They would've made sure we got the CAT references from the git-go. Now that they're "internal code names", I have to call BS.

We did hear about the code names back then. I remember the jokes about it being code-named Cheetah, when it was soooo sluggish. I think they just started using the cat code-names publicly because they were already so popular with users.
 
yes

If they announce Leopard and it turns out they haven't made changes to the Finder.

I'm buying Vista. :D


Well, there will be the multi-tab feature that they showed. Like tabs in Safari.

But, I'm hoping that they actually redo things significantly. The Finder is always so drab looking. It needs some color, some style, etc. It's just too simple. It's actually quite boring to look at.

Sure, it's clean. But, I do prefer a little splash of color in the Finder. That is one area that I really like in Windows.
 
I'm with you on this one because I have a gift card for a macbook pro...enough for the 2.33 ghz with a 160gb hdd and the apple care plan but i've been holding out for leopard. is it really worth it to wait? does anyone think the mbp's will be updated before june or july?

I do remember that when Leopard was announced last year, the higher end of the line white MacBooks had smaller hard-drives and code duo processors (as opposed to core 2 duo CPUs). I'm hoping that by June/July, the MacBooks will have updated specs, maybe a bump in CPU speed (~ 0.3 Ghz), and a bump in hard-drive space (~20 to 40 GB).

It just sucks to think that it meyb be June or July before I can switch. Arrgghhh...
 
There are several people that OS X feels sluggish to since the switch to Intel.
Frequent beachballing on high RAM machines among other things.

I don't remember having those problems on my G4 1.33GHz with Tiger.

Either the Intel version of OS X is programmed really badly or it is something with the Intel procs. I am hoping for OS X but we will see I guess.
Haven't had a PPC system, but my Macbook seems very fast. I have 2GB of RAM. Rarely beachball. Depends on what you're running. Rosetta applications aren't that fast, thinks like MS Word, Quicken.

I've had a substantial laundry list of bugs with Tiger. Sleeping and waking up is reasonably fast... when it works. Its apparently a very risky thing to plug in or remove devices while its sleeping.
 
I do remember that when Leopard was announced last year, the higher end of the line white MacBooks had smaller hard-drives and code duo processors (as opposed to core 2 duo CPUs). I'm hoping that by June/July, the MacBooks will have updated specs, maybe a bump in CPU speed (~ 0.3 Ghz), and a bump in hard-drive space (~20 to 40 GB).

It just sucks to think that it meyb be June or July before I can switch. Arrgghhh...

Hold out a little longer, it'll be worth it! :D
 
OS X 11 Voltron........ too funny!

Are there any legitimate Apple Events other than WWDC happening soon? I can't see Apple releasing Leopard without a special event to show off some of these "top secret" features.

Wouldn't it be funny if one of the top secret features was an updated Exposé that looked just like Vista's version of Exposé? I would die if something snuck past Apple like that.

I'm laughing at the thought of that board meeting:

"OMG the Flip3D bombed completely in Vista, PUT EXPOSE BACK IN!!"
:)
I'm not getting my first iMac until March 5th anyways. Something just HAS to be announced by then. But I know that the day I receive my computer, Apple will announce the release of updated 24'' iMac processors (3ghz), ilife, and leopard. So maybe I should just order the computer so that it will happen.

Also, these "top secret features" wouldn't be very "top secret" anymore if anyone outside of Apple Super-Extra-Happy-Secretive-Developers-Lair got ahold of a full-featured Leopard build.

The Mac OS X kernel hasn't been updated and fully optimized for Intel procs; if it were, it'd be blazingly fast, I'm sure, but my guess is that there are problems with supporting two different kernels (one PPC optimized, the other optimized for Intel).

It's not that hard really. The bootloader just loads the correct kernel into memory. After that, the slowdown becomes through the programs themselves since they have to support Intel and PPC instructions.
 
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I've had a substantial laundry list of bugs with Tiger. Sleeping and waking up is reasonably fast... when it works. Its apparently a very risky thing to plug in or remove devices while its sleeping.

that's my biggest complain about powerbooks, macbooks. they seem to sometimes get stuck in nirvana when you put them to sleep (or wake them up) and at the same time unplug a device or press a button or close the lid. that can be very embarrassing when you set up a beamer for a presentation.
 
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