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Mac OS X Leopard 10.5 GM Candidate Build

sam10685 said:
Halloween isn't a holiday. It's just a day that was made up so people spend money.
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Whether it's a holiday or not, it's a day that many people are busy with halloween events. Apple ain't gonna ship on halloween. No way.
 
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Gm

If Apple went GM this weekend, there is no reason Apple could not meet a Oct. 26 deadline.

1. All the boxes have been made, all there waiting for is the media. At which point stamping out the media could be done quick.
 
thefunkymunky said:
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Looks like someone found the magic number in /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist ;)
Code: 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>ProductBuildVersion</key>
	<string>[B]9A581[/B]</string>
	<key>ProductCopyright</key>
	<string>1983-2007 Apple Inc.</string>
	<key>ProductName</key>
	<string>Mac OS X</string>
	<key>ProductUserVisibleVersion</key>
	<string>10.5</string>
	<key>ProductVersion</key>
	<string>10.5</string>
</dict>
</plist>
 
seashellz2 said:
Im still thinking Oct 33rd-even if they announced today-I doubt they could get stuff into stores *BEFORE* Oct 26.

For inventory reasons, stores usually like to get stuff a couple days early so they can sort out various issues-put ads in print, displays, signs in windows-distribution-and actually HAVE the product in hand. Not nice to disappoint folks.

So really, Leopard should be in stock physically at all stores by the 24th, which is really cutting it close. TOO close.

Cant you see crowds storming a Best Buy, et, al-to be told-"sorry it didnt come in today maybe tomorrow"
Or said employees selling them out of the back of a just-arrived semi-trailer truck in the front of the store on Oct 28?

Steve wouldnt have to fall on his sword if Leopard came out Nov 2-3-
after all, it is STILL a week in October.

And not 23 release announcements and 5 years later, like VISTA
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So your saying that it will never come out? Because there is no such thing as a October 33rd, there are only (usually) 29-31 days in a month, depending on the month :D.
 
hob said:
I hope they don't ship it. It'd be way better if they released it as a download. 4 gigs would take most of us 2-3 hours to download off a decent server? Probably loads better for the environment too... Vista is available for direct download, it's about time Apple got onboard!
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I think that's an awesome idea although I would prefer a boxed version with a pressed DVD from Apple but a download option would be great as you wouldn't have to wait but it may bog down the servers.
 
HLdan said:
I think that's an awesome idea although I would prefer a boxed version with a pressed DVD from Apple but a download option would be great as you wouldn't have to wait but it may bog down the servers.
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It would be best if once you submit your order, they go ahead and withdraw from your credit card, give you an unlock code, and let you download and use the GM while you wait for your discs to arrive. (knowing that you would be ineligible to return your unopened Leopard box)
 
phillipjfry said:
Bottom of Apple's Leopard website:
All features referenced in the Mac OS X Leopard website are subject to change.
:)

They can change it to November on Oct. 31st if they wanted to, I figure.
Each week is killing us all a little inside. If not announced this Friday, than most likely next.
I'm starting to think that it will be announced in the next two weeks, to arrive in stores by the beginning of November :(
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No, that's not the same thing changing the ship date. Apple said features are subject to change, the date has nothing to do with that. I only hope they change the ugly blue scroll bars to the iTunes ones and make the UI customizable.:)
 
Well, so much for an announcement tonight. Maybe tomorrow or next Tuesday? :confused:

Oh Apple, how you plague my thoughts with transparent menubars, documents from so long ago, and gimongous icons. :p Leopard... come to me.
 
hob said:
Why doesn't OS X have a serial key, I've always wondered. Is it because it's ineffective without some sort of activation or that it's just a pain?

Apple could go ahead with downloads if they either used their DRM for something reasonable (software rather than music) or just realise that anyone that can install it has already paid them for a Mac, and that anyone that's going to pirate OS X, will do regardless...
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Mac OS X has such low market share, why bother their customers with activation and product keys? Also, unlike Microsoft, Apple is a hardware company. They make little profit from sales of $129 copies of OS X, they get their profit from their computers.

And finally, Apple is also about simplicity and things that "just work." Activation and product keys go against this philosophy.
 
Cheers for all of your responses everyone. I hadn't considered the cost/MB involved in distributing OS X... But really, it would be my preferred option. If I could have the option to burn my own CD and never see the box, that would be it!

And for the second time - I really don't think Mac OS X having a serial number is a good idea at all, I was just talking it through. And I did already get the whole simplicity/market share/hardware sales thing - just to save repetition :)
 
I hope the new internal build will be available to developers soon, I can't wait to get my hands on it and see if all the bugs have been squashed.
 
milo said:
Arriving and shipping are the same thing. Not to mention that they've already promised shipping in october.
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So leaving for work and arriving at work are the same for you? Does your boss agree (assuming you have a job you actually *go* to)? They're not the same thing at all. If I ship something - anything - today, it won't arrive anywhere until at least tomorrow, and in the meantime, it's in transit.

Like in the old days, when "shipping" meant putting something ON A SHIP and then waiting for it to ARRIVE at its destination. Actual ship or not, it will remain in transit, and therefore unavailable, until it ARRIVES somewhere - like the Apple Store, where I'll be waiting.

Oh, and it would *have* to ship in October in order to arrive in October, since it hasn't shipped yet & it's October now....
 
jarednt1 said:
If Apple went GM this weekend, there is no reason Apple could not meet a Oct. 26 deadline.

1. All the boxes have been made, all there waiting for is the media. At which point stamping out the media could be done quick.
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Apple could well have pre-paid a premium in order to have available stampers waiting & ready for the GM - given the closeness of the timing, it would be foolish of them to have NOT done this. Having done it, they'd then know exactly how long it would take them to churn out the needed media & how many stuffers they'll need at each plant & exactly when to have X FedEx trucks parked outside w/ their tailgates up.

It's not as big an event as "Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows", but I betcha Apple takes the task of getting it onto shelves every bit as seriously.

I expect them to make October.
 
iTunes Store

I would not be surprised if Mac OS X 10.5 will be sold through iTunes Store as well. The price would be the same but some people might prefer downloading over ordering or visit an Apple Store. Especially outside of the US, since the network speeds are higher, there are no Apple stores, and the local Mac-selling retail stores generally suck.
 
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