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Please, get real! You obviously don't get it!

Try working in a corporation using servers with a lot of files and folders. When using my home computer surfing the internet I don't need a pathbar, but when I use my Mac at work with coworkers! How do you tell someone where the file is on the server? You give them the path! (ex: Volumes/Client/2007/Project/Profile/Fonts/Helvetica Naue/ttf/ or ftp://username:password@mycomputer/theFolder) How do you get the path? On OS X you have to use automator actions or other apps. In windows you can copy/paste/write in the pathbar just like you can in Explorer/Safari/Firefox 's pathbar. Why should the filebrowser be any different? Can you imagine how annoying it would be to send a link to an image on the internet to a friend if you had to write the whole link every time?

Shift-Command-G.
 
Desktop image to take advantage of 3d dock

I wonder if one could make a desktop image that would really take advantage of the 3D dock and add some realism to it. I am not a Photoshop master--I don't even have Photoshop--but I could imagine bending an image in such a way that it extends into the display the distance that the 3d dock goes in. If you imagine a breakfast tray for instance being held in front of you for example. Does this make sense to anyone?
 
I'm getting fed-up with some of you nitpickers... :mad:

October isn't too far away, guys.

I wonder if one could make a desktop image that would really take advantage of the 3D dock and add some realism to it. I am not a Photoshop master--I don't even have Photoshop--but I could imagine bending an image in such a way that it extends into the display the distance that the 3d dock goes in. If you imagine a breakfast tray for instance being held in front of you for example. Does this make sense to anyone?

It makes sense to me. I'm sure that'll look very interesting. :)
 
Please, get real! You obviously don't get it!

Try working in a corporation using servers with a lot of files and folders. When using my home computer surfing the internet I don't need a pathbar, but when I use my Mac at work with coworkers! How do you tell someone where the file is on the server? You give them the path! (ex: Volumes/Client/2007/Project/Profile/Fonts/Helvetica Naue/ttf/ or ftp://username:password@mycomputer/theFolder) How do you get the path? On OS X you have to use automator actions or other apps. In windows you can copy/paste/write in the pathbar just like you can in Explorer/Safari/Firefox 's pathbar. Why should the filebrowser be any different? Can you imagine how annoying it would be to send a link to an image on the internet to a friend if you had to write the whole link every time?

I find it a little irritating when people, wanting certain functions, claim that their desired addition is important because they are pro users, and anyone who sees differently is just using their computer for surfing the web and email. I am a pro user and I find the simplicity of the mac interface appealing in that it allows me to easily choose/create my own processes rather than be limited by the OS designers' vision and/or compromises.

Considering that I don't have to send paths very often, I find a location bar ala windows a waste of valuable real estate, and even if I did send paths often, a location bar is a complete waste of time if I had to send it to anyone on a different platform. I could alter it to make it friendly to their platform, but we're talking about ease of use, right? If I found myself having to send paths a lot, I could dash out a quick applescript droplet that, put in the toolbar, could give me the path of any file in whatever format I needed it. 5-10 minutes, and I'd have a no cost, drag and drop solution that suit my needs perfectly without taking up a lot of space.

I am hoping that the pathbar in leopard can be disabled. I have little issue finding files as it is.
 
I find it a little irritating when people, wanting certain functions, claim that their desired addition is important because they are pro users, and anyone who sees differently is just using their computer for surfing the web and email. I am a pro user and I find the simplicity of the mac interface appealing in that it allows me to easily choose/create my own processes rather than be limited by the OS designers' vision and/or compromises.
I never said that people not using a pathbar cant be a pro user. I'm talking about myself.
Considering that I don't have to send paths very often, I find a location bar ala windows a waste of valuable real estate,

I guess that's why you can choose to show/hide it as you want in Windows.

and even if I did send paths often, a location bar is a complete waste of time if I had to send it to anyone on a different platform. I could alter it to make it friendly to their platform, but we're talking about ease of use, right?
So how would you explain to a friend where to find something on the server? The default OS X way seems to me like a pretty decent way to do if no mather what platform your using. When I comes to ease of use, I find it much easier to have one pathbar that can paste/copy/goto just like in any browser, than having a pathbar at the bottom of the window, a different goToWindow and an Applescript for copying the path. Everyone who can use Safari with the pathbar there shouldn't have any problems doing so in Finder.

If I found myself having to send paths a lot, I could dash out a quick applescript droplet that, put in the toolbar, could give me the path of any file in whatever format I needed it.

If you read my posts you've read that I do use an AutomatorAction/Applescript to do this myself.
I am hoping that the pathbar in leopard can be disabled. I have little issue finding files as it is.
I'm glad Apple finally included a pathbar in Finder. A show/hide function would be nice.
 
Can you interact with it in any way? Can you click your way back in the breadcrumb?
Can the pathbar be visible in column-view?
Interactions I have found so far...

1) Click on a Path Bar item : nothing...not even selecting it

2) Double-click on a Path Bar item (except for the last one) : goes to the folder in the current Finder window

3) Drop (no drag) : you can drag a file from a Finder window unto the item to move or copy that file

4) Right-mouse click on a Path Bar item : you get a context menu with items; Open, Open Enclosing Folder and Get Info

No way to copy the path to text without using Automator.

You can see the Path Bar in any view including column view
 
Interactions I have found so far...

1) Click on a Path Bar item : nothing...not even selecting it

2) Double-click on a Path Bar item (except for the last one) : goes to the folder in the current Finder window

3) Drop (no drag) : you can drag a file from a Finder window unto the item to move or copy that file

No way to copy the path to text without using Automator.

You can see the Path Bar in any view including column view

Then the Pathbar is pretty useless.
 
3) Drop (no drag) : you can drag a file from a Finder window unto the item to move or copy that file

Does this mean it is not spring loaded, i.e if you drag a file over a folder and hover it will open (i am assuming no hence your addition of no drag but just want clarification).
 
Does this mean it is not spring loaded, i.e if you drag a file over a folder and hover it will open (i am assuming no hence your addition of no drag but just want clarification).
It is NOT spring loaded. However, I said "no drag" because you cannot drag a Path Bar item and drop it somewhere.
 
I really hope their is an option to turn off that damn transparent menubar. It's so ugly.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is blinded by the RDF.
 
Does anyone know if Leopard is keeping the Aqua scrollbars or going for the iTunes 7 ones?
 
I really hope their is an option to turn off that damn transparent menubar. It's so ugly.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is blinded by the RDF.

What's so ugly about it??? It's the same as the one in Tiger but a little transparent. Really not that big of a deal to me.
 
Erm, okay, I'll just pass on the snide comments, but you've never used any Mac operating system *except* Leopard? :eek:
I've used Mac System 4,5,6,7 and NeXTSTEP 2,3 and 4. I'm now getting back into the fold again with Leopard via WWDC. I never used Panther and I used Tiger for like an hour.

It's good to be getting back!! :cool:
 
Agree! Looks bad!
At WWDC, I thought Steve said that there's an option to turn the tranparancy on/off..?
If there is an option it's not in the System Preferences. Possibly hidden via some defaults setting, but definitely not a preference in the latest Leopard seed.
 
I'm loving the Dock, the transparent menu bar, everything looks so slick and sexy!

I HATE the new folder icons though. They are too plain and don't match up to the other icons that are shiny, 3D and full of colour.

But I suppose I haven't tried Leopard yet, so haven't seen the new folder icons in the desktop with other stuff around them to see how easy they are on the eye. Too much eye candy can be a bad thing I suppose, so maybe these folder icons might not be as bad as I think they are...I hope!

Count me in for buying Leopard on the release date!
 
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