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Mac OS X Lion Roundup: Recovery Partitions, TRIM, Core 2 Duo Minimum, Security Focus

AidenShaw said:
Nice to see Apple copying Windows' good ideas.
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I have lots of versions of windows. None of them have built in recovery partitions. It wasn't a windows idea - it was an idea used by windows licensees (like HP and Dell) to save themselves a lot of support costs. Frankly, I'd rather just have a bootable USB drive (or DVD).


AidenShaw said:
LOL for all the posts claiming that TRIM wasn't needed.
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Frankly I'm shocked that they've managed to float along without TRIM support for as long as they have. Even if it isn't needed, it's just a good idea. 'bout time is all I can say.
 
baddj said:
If you read a post on the first post it will only work on apple's SSDs
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At the moment. This is still just a developer preview, and it's understandable that they started by supporting hardware that's most likely to be found in the developers' machines.
 
Does anyone know if TRIM will be supported for 10.6 as well? Or will we have to upgrade to Lion?
 
gorcman said:
Core 2 Duo minimum?

Does that mean it will run crappy on a 2010 MBP or will it run smoothly?
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2010? Really? That is really old! What possible reason would you have to still be using that? Didn't that come installed with Jaguar or was it Panther? Does it even run Leopard? I think it is time to upgrade that antique!
 
GFLPraxis said:
Well, there goes my still-perfectly-functional-and-used MacBook 2 GHz Core Duo. :(
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It's probably valuable to someone (Craigslist, ebay, etc.). I mean, it still runs the same software today as it did the day you bought it, right?

I guess we'll have to wait to find out if Lion will generate a bunch of new or upgraded applications that will require 10.7.

I didn't bother to upgrade my mini from Leopard to Snow Leopard until the App Store and 10.6.6 forced my hand. :(
 
AidenShaw said:
Intel CPUs/chipsets released in October 1999 are officially supported by Windows 7 (requirements are 1 GHz CPU, 1 GiB RAM).

Although your history is suspect - I agree that the time is here to abandon x86 systems and support only x64 systems. Windows 7 Server (officially called "Windows Server 2008 R2") is x64-only, and Microsoft has sent notice that the next version of Windows client will be x64-only.
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Really, how many motherboards from 1999 support 1 GB of RAM? How many RAM formats from then support sizes that, when added together, can sum to 1 GB?

karohan said:
Does anyone know if TRIM will be supported for 10.6 as well? Or will we have to upgrade to Lion?
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No, its not.
 
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So my 2006 iMac with the C2D is soon to be sold and time for a new iMac I guess!

Do you reckon Apple still update the EFI to 64bit so I can still have Lion...
 
Minimoose 360 said:
In before people whining about how it won't run on their 8 year old Intel PowerBook and cursing Apple.

EDIT: in AFTER. Really?
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At first the Lion cutoff sounded short, but then I realized that my 2006-era Core Duo MacBook (which I use as a secondary machine) will be 5 years old this summer... :(
 
AidenShaw said:
Yes, seriously. Recovery partitions have been available on Windows since the XP days. Nice to see Apple realizing the value of having a protected partition for repair/recovery purposes.
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Recovery partitions are a way for Microsoft and OEMs to avoid shipping installation media. Typically, this is "protected" so you can't easily ditch the shovelware some OEMs force on your PCs. You typically reimage back to the same state the computer was in when it shipped from the factory. Ugh!

Besides, if it's the drive that fails, what good is a recovery partition going to do anyone? Recovery partitions only seem like a good idea to people who can't boot from an external drive in the first place. FWIW, I can burn a copy of the Apple utility disk from any computer, if I didn't already have the foresight to do it in advance.

AidenShaw said:
It makes Apple look kind of stupid for the "Redmond, start your photocopiers" banners, doesn't it.
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Aww... Did that big, mean Apple marketing department hurt your feelings? :p
 
gorcman said:
Core 2 Duo minimum?

Does that mean it will run crappy on a 2010 MBP or will it run smoothly?
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My even crappier late 2008 MBP 2.4 CTD runs in 64-bit mode all the time with SL. At this point I haven't seen any reason why Lion should be any tougher to run. I'm looking forward to Lion.
 
gramirez2012 said:
Seriously? People are whining that their now 5 year old computers won't be supported? :rolleyes: That's how technology progresses. 5 years encompasses a lot of technology.
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A new computer is also a significant investment for some, considering the continually sucky economic climate. Given that, I'd say you're a little too quick to dismiss people's concerns.
 
me_94501 said:
At first the Lion cutoff sounded short, but then I realized that my 2006-era Core Duo MacBook (which I use as a secondary machine) will be 5 years old this summer... :(
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I feel the same way. The feeling sucks, but the fact that a 5 year old laptop runs so well is equally satisfying.

Luckily I was able to get an older C2D MBP over the summer for the price of replacing the screen. I probably won't have to buy another laptop until the OS that succeeds Lion (I'll just really really really want to).
 
Full of Win said:
Really, how many motherboards from 1999 support 1 GB of RAM? How many RAM formats from then support sizes that, when added together, can sum to 1 GB?
No, its not.
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There were at least 512 memory chips back then. My old school had lots of pcs with them used in 1 slot around that time. Some of them had 4 possible slots so you could have got 2GB. I have windows 7 running on a thinkpad r50e very well with only 768MB of Ram.
 
Great additions, and possible R.I. as well.

The only aspect I do not like is the grey/colourless Finder sidebar icons. This is similar to iTunes 10, and many felt the same way and found a fix to replace the colour.

I like the idea of a unified Finder, but I don't like the lack of colour. You can reconfigure the Finder windows to have "path" and bottom bar information, as it is currently. Dock application indicators are also an option.

I do not like "Launcher", it seems awkward having the icons group exactly like iOS folders over your screen in a "Dashboard" fashion. Also odd that launcher is not removable from the dock. So far no OpenGL 3.0 support.
 
IzzyJG99 said:
Pretty pathetic that you would need an Intel Core 2 Duo or better to run it. This is Apple obviously wanting to sell more units. Shame. This is probably one of the contributing factors why my company is now phasing back to PC's.
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Wait,your Company is dumping Apple , so it can go with outdated technology?
I'd be looking for another place to work,they are going down:eek:
 
John.B said:
Besides, if it's the drive that fails, what good is a recovery partition going to do anyone? Recovery partitions only seem like a good idea to people who can't boot from an external drive in the first place. FWIW, I can burn a copy of the Apple utility disk from any computer, if I didn't already have the foresight to do it in advance.
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Would also like to know on this point hope apple makes it so you can make a Recovery disk up for drive failures. Or maybe apple will start to make all HDDs non user replaceable.
 
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