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Mac OS X Lion Roundup: Recovery Partitions, TRIM, Core 2 Duo Minimum, Security Focus
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Because the current iTunes application is a kludge of slow, buggy code. If they're going to require a 64-bit chip, they might as well go all out and code their native applications to be 64-bit as well. I don't know if iTunes has been rewritten since it came out all those years ago. It's time for Cocoa already!
PowerPC. They're older processors that Apple included in their Macs before they switched to Intel. Tthe best PPC G5 Mac Apple ever sold gets run around in circles by low end Core 2 Duo's. Hardly anyone continues to support PPC.
I don't really see the advantage in this backup partition, unless it would be installed on another device. I've broken multiple hard drive now, but never screwed up an installation/OS HD (using genuine mac and OS X ... ). It could be a handy, simplified OS in which you can backup as much as possible.
And the lack of support for pre-C2D ... isn't this an industry standard decision? And besides the processor ... I mean, what can you still do with a Radeon X1600? Is it even able to render expose without lag >.< (I know, exaguration). Just maybe ... will this never-close-an-app capability be very demanding of the system, require high FSB'es, many threads and most of all: very, very capable harddrives.
And the lack of support for pre-C2D ... isn't this an industry standard decision? And besides the processor ... I mean, what can you still do with a Radeon X1600? Is it even able to render expose without lag >.< (I know, exaguration). Just maybe ... will this never-close-an-app capability be very demanding of the system, require high FSB'es, many threads and most of all: very, very capable harddrives.
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They don't have to wait for Lion to rewrite iTunes though. iTunes will run perfectly fine under Lion. The fact that iTunes is still 32-bit has little relevance to Lion dropping 32-bit processors.
Remember those were only 32-bit. I think they just want to make a break from that extra baggage now rather than with the next update.
Lion should be 64-bit goodness from top to bottom that can run older 32-bit apps.
TRIM and the recovery partition are two different things. TRIM is a technology that prevents the speed degradation that SSD's get over time.
I don't think that is a fair example for two reasons. First is that Windows 7 is the exception rather than the rule for Windows releases. And second those same machines would run Vista horribly.
You're right, but it would sure seem like good timing. I'm sure you'd agree that a Cocoa rewrite of iTunes should've been done by now. Apple did the same with with the bulk of their native apps back when Snow Leopard came out. In fact, that was one of the main goals of 10.6. I was really surprised when iTunes wasn't re-written then, and I'll be really surprised if we don't see a rewrite of iTunes when Lion comes out. To me, it seems like a natural time to introduce iTunes v11.
Sounds awesome! I think that recovery partition is a great idea, I keep my DVDs safe in the retail box on a shelf somewhere, and it's a hassle to get it out of there all the time. Hope this also includes the Hardware Test, which normally only works from the original Applications DVD or whichever one it is.
Will this recovery partition actually have the Lion installer on it? Would we actually be able to reinstall the entire OS from the hard drive, without a DVD? That would rock.
Will this recovery partition actually have the Lion installer on it? Would we actually be able to reinstall the entire OS from the hard drive, without a DVD? That would rock.
There's no reason to be expecting iTunes 11 until Apple's typical September iPod event when they have been releasing new versions of iTunes for the past couple of years.
With the first developer preview of Mac OS X Lion having been out for over 24 hours now, some additional points of interest are surfacing from those who have had a chance to look through the build. Among the interesting observations:
- Apple has added support for a separate recovery partition, hiding away utilities needed for repair and troubleshooting right on the user's hard drive. The new system will allow users to boot to the recovery partition without the need for an operating system disc. The move, along with the shift to Mac App Store distribution for the developer preview, signal a reduced reliance on DVDs that may become important if other notebooks follow the MacBook Air's lead and see their internal optical drives removed entirely.
- As noted by MacGeneration [Google translation], Apple has added TRIM support in this initial developer build of Mac OS X Lion. TRIM support provides for optimization of solid-state drives by cleaning up unused blocks of data and preparing them for rewriting, preventing slowdowns that would otherwise occur over time as garbage data accumulates.
- Mac OS X Lion requires a minimum of an Intel Core 2 Duo, leaving out compatibility for Apple's earliest Intel-based machines offering Core Solo or Core Duo processors.
- CNET notes that Apple has apparently invited a number of security researchers to test out Mac OS X Lion, a move that seems to signal a more open relationship with those who are trying to find security vulnerabilities in Apple's software.
Article Link: Mac OS X Lion Roundup: Recovery Partitions, TRIM Support, Core 2 Duo Minimum, Focus on Security
Man, I knew it; I picked the best time to replace my Core Duo-based iMac with the Mac mini (listed in my sig) as I had a hunch that my iMac wouldn't be supported past Snow Leopard. But seriously, it's about freakin' time we finished the 64-bit transition so that we boot with a 64-bit kernel by default. Yeah, I still want to be able to run 32-bit apps, but no need to bring down the rest of the OS just for the Early 2006 generation of Macs.
As for the restore partition, I'm all for it as long as there's a way to restore the restore partition if the hard drive is to be replaced after-market (which is the thing to do if your Mac is out of warranty).
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I know how you feel, I have a hard time finding music cassettes for my cassette player.
Seriously? People are whining that their now 5 year old computers won't be supported? 
That's how technology progresses. 5 years encompasses a lot of technology.
That's how technology progresses. 5 years encompasses a lot of technology.
That's mostly the case, but there have been a few versions that were released in late spring or in October. Maybe they'll make an exception so that it coincides with their shiny new OS release. Who knows, it could happen.
Oh men, I am running away from Apple if that happens.
First no Antiglare option on MBP 13" and now this.....
People need to realize that just because Lion drops support for non 64bit CPUs, doesn't mean your currently installed OS (SL, Leopard, or even Tiger) will suddenly stop working. Heck, I waited for at least two revisions of the new OS itself before upgrading from Tiger to Leopard, and Leopard to SL, and let the enthusiasts test out the bugs. When Lion is released, I'll be happy running SL and wait till Apple updated Lion to 10.7.2 or higher.
I'm sorry but I don't really understand what you are saying. The early 2006 Macs where core duos, but by late 2006 every new Mac at the time had a core 2 duo or Xeon inside, that was around five years ago, you also can't compare lion to windows 7 since 7 has been out well over a year. Lion will be more comparable to Windows 8 or whatever its going to be called, which I've heard MS will also be removing support for all X86 machines, and rely on X64 instead, if people want a piece of the future get a new machine every several years. Also most people now are no longer supporting PowerPC, its dead for Apple. I love old Macs and currently have many old mac-systems, but they will not replace my newer MBP which I'm running Mac os x lion on and I"m loving it.
I'm not an idiot thank you.
Obviously Rosetta is gone forever - but most certainly I'll keep one of my Intel Macs on 10.6 for legacy support while upgrading the other to 10.7 - or just have both systems on different disks on my Mac Pro. With Apple you have to keep more machines around anyway to be somewhat backwards compatible. I still have some G4 Towers and a G4 PowerBook too.
If it's a good idea, it's a good idea. Who cares where it came from.
Anyone who said TRIM wasn't needed is just ignorant; not every SSD is Sandforce, and even still, TRIM is far superior.
You're right about the x64 bit too.
Odd day.
Seriously? People are whining that their now 5 year old computers won't be supported?
Exactly. Those old machines are probably running Snow Leopard, a better OS than they were originally released with. Do we really want Apple to play the Windows game and crap up their latest OS with bunch of code in order to run old technology? Time marches on. . .