neither is UPS, FedEx, or an Apple Store. You can't cater to everyone man.
What do you do about the people that don't have internet at all? How will they activate their copy? Now create a special phone in line to cater to those people as well?
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neither is UPS, FedEx, or an Apple Store. You can't cater to everyone man.
What do you do about the people that don't have internet at all? How will they activate their copy? Now create a special phone in line to cater to those people as well?
look at all the people that complained when the app store had major downloads for a lot cheaper than the physical version in the apple store. many people wanted refunds....bc it was so much cheaper to download it.
There are always going to be people that complain no matter what.
That's a bold claim to make. Especially in light of the Intel move and the possibility of running Windows on Mac basically made sales of Macs boom.
Really ? Please tell me where I can get this free high-end Cisco gear and these free fiber optics high throughput link-ups, I think I'll order some for myself.
Care to share the stats you have on that ? Because obviously, if you're going to stand there and say it's a non-issue for the majority of users (like you put it), you have stats to back up your bold claims (and all other bold claims you've made).
I'd pick the one that would result in more profit which is the one that results in higher adoption. Higher adoption = more sales = more profit per copy (writing an OS has a fixed cost. Those 2 years you spent cost you the same whether you sell 1 copy or 100,000,000, and that my friend, is the most expensive part of Lion, not the DVDs or bandwidth to distribute it).
Copyright law wants to have a discussion with you. Again, until Apple clarifies all this, if 2 Macs aren't tied to the same Mac App Store ID, copying over the files is unauthorized by the EULA as you have cited yourself. So pay twice, download twice my friend.
You have a big problem with stating your opinion as fact and failing to back up those statements of fact it seems. All is ok as long as you can defend Apple though right ? Let Apple defend themselves and stand on their own, they don't need you to do it for them.
As long as all your Macs share the same Mac App Store ID. Did you miss that part ?
my wife has her stuff and i have mine. when you purchase an app once, you can download it free on the other device. i guess you like paying double
and it's not really your mac if it's your gfs right?
You can't compare a piece of software to a physical service like UPS, FedEx. You comparing apple to oranges.
my wife has her stuff and i have mine. when you purchase an app once, you can download it free on the other device. i guess you like paying double
We don't share the same iTunes account ID, so we can't share our purchases. Did you miss that part ?
Exactly. However, with the Family Pack license, it was legit for us to share the install media. Now it's not.
You can't compare a piece of software to a physical service like UPS, FedEx. You comparing apple to oranges.
You seriously think that distributing a major piece of software via digital delivery only is good enough for an intended world wide target? Ugh. Unreal.
Why not? you are talking about the avenue that is used to deliver the media right? so what if someone doesn't get UPS or FEDEX or live near an apple store?
How will they get the physical media, if that service isn't available to them?
so why are you complaining now? you didn't care about sharing your purchases before, but now that there is a download that says you can download to multiple machines using the same ID, you think you are entitled.
And how much was the family pack license?
I certainly don't mean to complain, merely express concern over a variety of situations that might arise which would necessitate the need of some sort of physical media, be it Apple-provided or user-generated.
Heck, even with my Comcast Data Cap (250GB) I can download the OS to all of our computers without issue, and very quickly (20Mbps connection). But as I said much earlier, why should I have to download the same thing five times over the cloud, when I could save my badwidth for Netflix, etc. and just pop in a USB stick with the OS on it? Personally, I'd be willing to pay an extra $20 for that physical media, and I'd venture to guess many others would as well. Even at $49, Lion would be a value proposition over the competing OS, and truly everybody would be able to enjoy it.
who said you were going to have to download it 5 times?
i'm sure it will have the option to burn to dvd or load on a thumb drive. Look at when they started the Mac App store and started selling software on there. people complained that they bought physical media of aperture 3 etc. and paid $200 and it could now be downloaded for only $79 instead. Peeps were angry and wanted refunds. You can't make everyone happy. There will always be people that complain if the price went up just to have physical media delivery instead of the cheap download delivery.
So you think it's not a valid complaint having to download twice the data because we can't share media because of this "purchase tied to an account". My family pack license was not tied to an account at all. It was good for 5 installs.
10$ less than buying 2 copies, and it was good for 5 installs. You do the math
it makes sense what they are doing. My wife and i share a MBA and an iPad, why am i going to create 2 different id's when you have the advantage to re-download all your purchases since you have the same id?So you think it's not a valid complaint having to download twice the data because we can't share media because of this "purchase tied to an account". My family pack license was not tied to an account at all. It was good for 5 installs.
10$ less than buying 2 copies, and it was good for 5 installs. You do the math
Obviously if you are a family you are going to be using the same ID.
and it's not just 5 installs to share between you and your friends or your gf who may not live with you....if you wanna get technical
Slow internet connections and no internet connections will be an issue
As others have mentioned, the big issue for me is having to download ( possibly multiple times ) a 4 GB install. Need a boot disc in case of a hard drive crash. Also, there are machines at some secure installations that are not connected to the internet.
As others have mentioned, the big issue for me is having to download ( possibly multiple times ) a 4 GB install. Need a boot disc in case of a hard drive crash. Also, there are machines at some secure installations that are not connected to the internet.
Well, my family will have 3 different Macs and 3 different apple ID's. My wife wants here own account, I have my own account and my daughter has her own account(specifically loaded with iTune Gift cards) Some people can't have 1 account for the whole house. I tried to convince my wife to just use my account, but she wants her stuff as hers and so on. My daughter needs a different account to control what she buys on the Mac Store, with no credit card needed.
If Lion came with a Family Pack, I would be able to install on all 3, instead of purchasing it separately.
If Lion came with a Family Pack, I would be able to install on all 3, instead of purchasing it separately.
I'm glad you're sure, because I've seen no indication or announcement from Apple to indicate either 1) physical media is possible or 2) the download will be a DMG image that can be applied and burned to media ( e.g. disc, thumb drive etc. )
Good for you and her! My GF and I both have our own MacBooks and iPhones.
My GF has lived with me for the last 6 years. Which makes it quite legal under the Family Pack license.
It's 2011 man, not 1945!
Look, you're just arguing to limit options based on the fact that for you, it's fine. Try to see how what works for you might not for others and stop trying to tell us it's "fine" for us too. You're just creating ill will towards yourself. Just like iBug2 is doing.
well you are sure that you have to download it multiple times. everyone is complaining and we don't know the real process yet. everyone needs to just relax.
Even with separate accounts, as you can do now with apps / music. You can authorize other computers, so I'd assume you can authorize the other computers with your account to install lion. They can then use their own accounts for purchases, etc..