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Mac OS X Lion Set for July Debut Priced at $29.99, Mac App Store Exclusive
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Then you're not that creative if you can't find other ways to store stuff without a disc drive...
you don't get it do you.
so when you go on vacation with your family you're going to bring along all your physical media blu ray's and your blu ray player so you can play your content?
My guess is that you will have the option of a clean install during installation just like you did for previous versions of OS X. Nothing about a download precludes that and I don't see why Apple would remove it.
The part of the Lion page that talks about a recovery partition gives you a clue how this would work. Most likely Lion uses that partition for the initial install as well as recovery. E.g., where in the SL install you would boot to the disc, in the Lion install you will boot to the recovery/install partition.
I'm totally happy. £20.99 is a bargain and although my d/l speed is just 10mb on cable I calculate at top d/l speed it will take about an hour which is fine. At worst I can ring my cable company and upgrade to 30 or 50mb for a month to get it down a bit quicker! But I'm sure it won't come to that.
I'm more interested in whether it will speed my system as I'm only on a C2D 2ghz with gma 950. I know the snazzy graphical bits won't run on mine but I'm sure the upgrade will be worth it.
I'm more interested in whether it will speed my system as I'm only on a C2D 2ghz with gma 950. I know the snazzy graphical bits won't run on mine but I'm sure the upgrade will be worth it.
Lion only available through app store means goodbye to Mac for me. I think it's a stupid idea, because Apple doesn't even let me have an appstore account. Using a Mac was fun for 6 years, now it's time for something better. Goodbye everybody 
Dilemna
I bought a new BTO MBP last week, it currently in Germany somewhere en-route.
Can I get Lion for free? The word is that if you buy a new system from today onwards you get the upgrade for free.
The alternative is to return the laptop when I get it this week.
I bought a new BTO MBP last week, it currently in Germany somewhere en-route.
Can I get Lion for free? The word is that if you buy a new system from today onwards you get the upgrade for free.
The alternative is to return the laptop when I get it this week.
Here's what I think will happen with Lion:
When you download it, and execute the file, it will present you with an option to back it up to a DVD/USB drive. Dell has a similar feature called Data Protection or something like that where you launch it, and it asks you if you'd like to make recovery CD's from their restore partition.
I just don't see Apple not offering something like this, because it would be a lot of wasted time having to install an old operating system, and then get a 4GIG file and wait through its installation each time you need to reinstall your operating system.
When you download it, and execute the file, it will present you with an option to back it up to a DVD/USB drive. Dell has a similar feature called Data Protection or something like that where you launch it, and it asks you if you'd like to make recovery CD's from their restore partition.
I just don't see Apple not offering something like this, because it would be a lot of wasted time having to install an old operating system, and then get a 4GIG file and wait through its installation each time you need to reinstall your operating system.
that's a good point.. but seriously, what's the problem in letting the dmg boot from an usb drive? since tiger i always installed OSes from ipods! i don't see it not being possible with lion.
another note: the recovery partition will not be welcome in ssd users, who care about space!
welcome to the windowification of mac os x. no serial code to activate here, just linked to your mac store account. No more buy one disc and install all you like
thanks dear leader
thanks dear leader
Have you ever clean installed an OS? Doesn't seem so from the arrogance in your post.
You need to run the installer ON THE DVD to run disc utilities to wipe a hard drive. If there is no DVD you can't do that can you?
Here are my 2 cents about OS X Lion's upgrade options.
As far as I know current developer previews are being seeded through the App Store, and they have managed to leak those out to the torrents in dmg format. Therefore I am guessing that whatever the download is, it will be possible to extract a dmg from it and do the usual USB stick dump or DVD burn.
Anyways it is useless to cry over update options if is impossible to update yet.
As far as I know current developer previews are being seeded through the App Store, and they have managed to leak those out to the torrents in dmg format. Therefore I am guessing that whatever the download is, it will be possible to extract a dmg from it and do the usual USB stick dump or DVD burn.
Anyways it is useless to cry over update options if is impossible to update yet.
Buying one disc and install on all you like wasn't legal anyway (since System 7!). This option allows you to install legally on all the machines you own with the same Mac App Store account.
Here's hoping that MS will price the Windows 8 Upgrade Download the same, $29.99 for all your PC's...
(*starts holding breath*)
(*starts holding breath*)
It was really damn cheap when you pre-ordered it for Windows 7 or got the family pack. NewEgg just sent a 10% off up to $50 loyalty promo code for all Windows operating systems as well.Here's hoping that MS will price the Windows 8 Upgrade Download the same, $29.99 for all your PC's...
(*starts holding breath*)
It was not that hard to just download the ISO from their servers or use the fancy bootable USB drive tool. If Apple can get a 4 GB recovery partition with Safari, Microsoft can have all the fun moving the current 200 MB recovery partition to 4 GB too.
Yes, this is correct. You can "Show Package Contents" to get to the DMG.
However, Apple needs an easy way of restoring the installer to a USB stick or DVD from the installer itself. Hopefully they will do this by the time of release.
The recovery partition is only 800MB. I expect it'll have you redownload Lion to install it again.
Well, there you go. Steve finally got his will. For all the flock here is a famous Steve-o quote to remember:
"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
-- Fortune, Feb. 19, 1996
Fiveteen years later we can finally say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. The sheep are being milked while the educated move on.
Bye Apple. Has been a nice time with you. Next machine will dualboot Linux and Windows for sure. Sorry - but dear Apple apologists - your future is not mine. I actually like OWNING my software and not just OWNING A LICENSE.
It's been a great time. *sniff*
Uh, no. I'm talking about the corporate distribution of applications via the App Store, which isn't really possible. We're not having every person running a Mac using their personal credit card and account so they can upgrade to Lion, and then expense it. That's stupid. Every other company (Adobe, Autodesk, Microsoft) allows me to group buy licenses, and/or the real box if need be. We're not requiring everyone to use their personal accounts for work purposes. That's not appropriate.
So you can lose your condescending attitude.