Wow! Way to force you to use the App Store.
Looks like I won't be upgrading to Lion anytime soon.
Looks like I won't be upgrading to Lion anytime soon.
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Imaging/deployment should stay more or less the same. Licensing on the other hand...
So true, I forgot about installing it in offices. What a nightmare this is going to be.
Heres a thought. Since all macs are going to have a sd card slots, Why not give an option to buy it that way? Upgrades can be downloaded straight to the card.
Packaging cost will drop dramatically
Packaging cost will drop dramatically
If Lion is an App Store application, how are Lion updates going to work? In 10.6, the App Store app doesn't do automatic updates like the Software Update feature of System Preferences does. You have to manually launch App Store to check for updates. It's really annoying, I much prefer the automatic notification of updates System Preferences gives me.
so no internet connection, no upgrade. Sad. Thinking again, i´ll sacrifice 4bg of my 64 to be able to reinstall os x whenever i want.
Not that i do that often on my mac. Oh wait... i never do it. I just wanna know that i can if i need to.
According to Google 30$ = £18.33 then you need to add VAT at 20% giving £21.99-ish
Edit: Sorry, mis-read your point about 'other apps'. Still, the price seems to be about right.
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Having read through the pages on the Apple Site about Lion, there is absolutely nothing to benefit desktop users. Sorry that's not quite true. Nothing for desktop users who still have the mental ability to use a mouse and a keyboard.
Are you too thick to use a mouse? Are your fingers too fat to type on a keyboard?
Then Mac OS Lion is for you. Welcome to the future of Mac.
Are you too thick to use a mouse? Are your fingers too fat to type on a keyboard?
Then Mac OS Lion is for you. Welcome to the future of Mac.
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Apple has become the company that forces everything down its users throat...they make good looking stuff but lets be honest here, last couple of years its been nothing but downhill for Mac users (not talking about iphones, ipads and other icrap)
Like mentioned in a previous post in some country's people need to have a certain amount of income before they can even own a credit card or visa card...now this doesn't mean these people are dead broke (so don't start with the "how did they get a mac in the first place ignorance") its just messed up politics and the less fortuned are again the ones left in the cold. Funny how i remember Jobs saying that "the mac is for everybody"
not only that, but what about people with low bandwith...or in some country's internet speed is really slow even if you have the fastest connection the provider has to offer, it would take ages if not simply impossible to download it due to timeouts.
about wwdc in general, huge disappointment just like the "back to the mac" and last years wwdc...not that i was expecting much to be honest. I won't be updating to Lion anytime soon, overly hyped OS if you ask me.
Take away all the fancy advertising and hype and all your left with is an overpriced good looking mediocre ordinary performing computer.
Like mentioned in a previous post in some country's people need to have a certain amount of income before they can even own a credit card or visa card...now this doesn't mean these people are dead broke (so don't start with the "how did they get a mac in the first place ignorance") its just messed up politics and the less fortuned are again the ones left in the cold. Funny how i remember Jobs saying that "the mac is for everybody"
not only that, but what about people with low bandwith...or in some country's internet speed is really slow even if you have the fastest connection the provider has to offer, it would take ages if not simply impossible to download it due to timeouts.
about wwdc in general, huge disappointment just like the "back to the mac" and last years wwdc...not that i was expecting much to be honest. I won't be updating to Lion anytime soon, overly hyped OS if you ask me.
Take away all the fancy advertising and hype and all your left with is an overpriced good looking mediocre ordinary performing computer.
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They need to clarify how the install will work. If I can download the Lion installer from Mac App Store then burn it to a dvd or save to a hard drive for later use then ok. If it's bootable/mountable image then ok.
Like many I have my concerns about this. I like to clean install my system every now and again. Will I be forced to download 4GB every time? Will I first have to go through the whole install process with 10.6 + updates to get the Mac App Store just to be able to get to the point of downloading Lion again? Better question (maybe already answered?) will I have to PAY every time I download?
Not my problem, but what about people with no internet or limited internet? A lot of people only have 3g (I was one for several years). It's good enough for web browsing or email but downloading a 4GB OS? No.
Like many I have my concerns about this. I like to clean install my system every now and again. Will I be forced to download 4GB every time? Will I first have to go through the whole install process with 10.6 + updates to get the Mac App Store just to be able to get to the point of downloading Lion again? Better question (maybe already answered?) will I have to PAY every time I download?
Not my problem, but what about people with no internet or limited internet? A lot of people only have 3g (I was one for several years). It's good enough for web browsing or email but downloading a 4GB OS? No.
some people here are truly not thinking about anyone but themselves here. there's a bunch of issues that arise from an appstore only upgrade.
1. what happens if i want to do a clean install? up until now you could do upgrades and clean installs. it sounds like the only way to do a clean install is to install OS 10.6 and then install OS 10.7 which is absolutely insane and time consuming.
2. what happens if you want to you're stuck without removable media and the need to upgrade multiple computers? 4gb adds up really quickly with some caps that ISPs set up. and not everyone has the fortune of fast internet access.
3. what happens in a business environment where you wish to upgrade multiple macs? does OS 10.7 now need to be authenticated via the appstore? that's absolutely ridiculous if that's the case. hate on microsoft for using product keys, but it's easier to deal with that then having to open an appstore account just to authenticate software.
4. what if the harddrive dies out? look at #1. this is stupid. a recovery partition is not useful at all in this case.
bash on microsoft all you want but at the very least they provide tools to run Windows 7 installations from DVDs and USB drives. this is rather disappointing. and will be a nightmare for business environments looking to do upgrades.
and if apple has an answer to all these concerns, they really blew it by not addressing them today. especially considering all the stuff they mentioned about OS 10.7 they had pretty much covered already.
1. what happens if i want to do a clean install? up until now you could do upgrades and clean installs. it sounds like the only way to do a clean install is to install OS 10.6 and then install OS 10.7 which is absolutely insane and time consuming.
2. what happens if you want to you're stuck without removable media and the need to upgrade multiple computers? 4gb adds up really quickly with some caps that ISPs set up. and not everyone has the fortune of fast internet access.
3. what happens in a business environment where you wish to upgrade multiple macs? does OS 10.7 now need to be authenticated via the appstore? that's absolutely ridiculous if that's the case. hate on microsoft for using product keys, but it's easier to deal with that then having to open an appstore account just to authenticate software.
4. what if the harddrive dies out? look at #1. this is stupid. a recovery partition is not useful at all in this case.
bash on microsoft all you want but at the very least they provide tools to run Windows 7 installations from DVDs and USB drives. this is rather disappointing. and will be a nightmare for business environments looking to do upgrades.
and if apple has an answer to all these concerns, they really blew it by not addressing them today. especially considering all the stuff they mentioned about OS 10.7 they had pretty much covered already.
It's going to be interesting when it comes time to upgrade the 15 iMacs and 6 MBPs at the office. I really don't want to tie my Credit Card to other people's accounts and I don't think I'm allowed to tie my account to 21+ computers. I've been asking Apple for Corporate .me accounts for a while and recently for a single Corporate Apple ID account to purchase software. I just can't see how tying company owned software to an individual rather than a device is a good idea. People come and people go and managing Apple IDs and Credit Cards associated with them will be a nightmare for me.
I hope they get this right to help businesses manage their software. And maybe it's in the plan...till then I'm nervous.
Look! Two people that get it. This will be a problem for businesses running OS X.
Name one app that you own the license to. *Hint* It's not anything from Adobe, Microsoft, Apple, etc.
To clarify, you can do a format and install after booting from this imaged media.
The steps are outlined Here
Perhaps Apple will include an easy utility in the final version.
4 Gig cap ~ No Apple store in NZ just retailers without WiFi options.
Panther > Tiger > Leopard > Snow Leopard >
Alot of you people are forgetting that this is 2011 and physical media is dying. Apple is just helping us by pushing us off the cliff.
Now hopefully future Macs can be Optical Bay free too.
And those of you who are claiming no broadband access and downloads will be slow, well you are in the minority. Most people have fast internet access, even if its 3G tethered from their phone. Looks like you guys will just have to wait longer than us to download it. No worries on this end, but I have been all over the world in the last 10 years and no matter where I went, wether it be the US, Iraq, Japan (where I am currently) I have always had faster than dialup access.
Edit: And Im sure that once you Download this, you will be able to burn the image for mass distribution. They realize that some of us own like 5 mac's and we are not gonna have to download this thing 5 separate times.
Now hopefully future Macs can be Optical Bay free too.
And those of you who are claiming no broadband access and downloads will be slow, well you are in the minority. Most people have fast internet access, even if its 3G tethered from their phone. Looks like you guys will just have to wait longer than us to download it. No worries on this end, but I have been all over the world in the last 10 years and no matter where I went, wether it be the US, Iraq, Japan (where I am currently) I have always had faster than dialup access.
Edit: And Im sure that once you Download this, you will be able to burn the image for mass distribution. They realize that some of us own like 5 mac's and we are not gonna have to download this thing 5 separate times.
the only way these concerns can even begin to get addressed is if they had a secondary storage unit where you could run OS installations from. until something like that happens, none of these concerns are going to be addressed.
4 Gig cap ~ No Apple store in NZ just retailers without WiFi options.
Panther > Tiger > Leopard > Snow Leopard >
My exact situation. I live in the ONLY place around my area where there is NO broadband at all. My entire internet connection is my 4gb on my iPhone that i tether to my computers