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What are the chances they'll let us get a free Snow Leopard update in order to update to Lion? I hadn't updated my MacBook to Snow and if Lion is only downloadable through the Mac App Store, I need Snow to get the App store.

I would say your chances of being rewarded for being a cheap ass are less then 0.

$60 still beats $129 for what upgrades were going for previously.
 
Lion only available through app store means goodbye to Mac for me. I think it's a stupid idea, because Apple doesn't even let me have an appstore account. Using a Mac was fun for 6 years, now it's time for something better. Goodbye everybody :)

Bon Voyage!

But before you go, why is it that you can't have an app store account? You're not 13?
 
If I had to reformat my computer because my hdd failed, not only do I have to reinstall snow leopard then download 4GB that is the OS, but since my computer came with snow leopard 6.2, I will have to download an additional 1GB of system updates to GET the Appstore, then do those additional steps.

I suspect for businesses and schools, they'll simply stay with whatever OS X they have since Apple hasnt released a realistic rollout for them.

Plus Apple ID for authorisation - I wouldnt want my data compromised ala Sony.

They're sure as hell making desktop computing obsolete. That's Steve's way. And I'll probably still get it anyway...
 
Alot of you people are forgetting that this is 2011 and physical media is dying. Apple is just helping us by pushing us off the cliff.

Now hopefully future Macs can be Optical Bay free too.

And those of you who are claiming no broadband access and downloads will be slow, well you are in the minority. Most people have fast internet access, even if its 3G tethered from their phone. Looks like you guys will just have to wait longer than us to download it. No worries on this end, but I have been all over the world in the last 10 years and no matter where I went, wether it be the US, Iraq, Japan (where I am currently) I have always had faster than dialup access.

Edit: And Im sure that once you Download this, you will be able to burn the image for mass distribution. They realize that some of us own like 5 mac's and we are not gonna have to download this thing 5 separate times.
physical media is dying? so i guess in the next 5 yrs people will have no need for flash drives?

so long as there is data out there, there will be a need for psychical storage. this is not even up for debate. it doesn't matter if it's blu-ray, usb flash drives or whatever the next generation storage devices are. people will need to put data on psychical media. this is particularly even more relevant when not every computer is networked (nor can it be guaranteed that it is networked).
 
ever heard of kids on a long car ride?

Yes, everyone has a bunch of 5 year olds in the back with laptops for long car trips who are dying without a blu ray player in the laptop.

Really!?!? MOST parents have discovered the joy of NOT having physical media. Less crap to carry around an lose! You are probably one of those people with a fanny pack on vacation filled with 10 gadets and 20 cables.

My god, really though, what did people do before car entertainment systems on long road trips? You know, those things that mount to the back of the head rests or drop down from the ceiling?
 
I'm just curious as to how we are supposed to access the system tools like when booting from the OS install disk. Sounds like if you need a reinstall or something like that, you'll have to ask apple first. I'll have to make sure that I still have the control I want over it before I download. If not, SL it is.

Have you read ANYTHING that came out today, or any of the 70 posts prior to yours? Ask Apple? This isn't school. You don't need a hall pass.

I'm not even telling you the answer. It's everywhere. BETTER YET... read the Lion page on apple.com!
 
Which was the last OSX made for professional users rather than just media consumers? Apple lost his spirit, now is just a pretty app and media store.
 
As seen on the OS X Lion features page on Apple's Lion site: It is in the Internet Restore and Utilities area. Here is the link:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html




Internet Restore and Utilities


Built into Lion

OS X Lion includes a built-in restore partition, allowing you to repair or reinstall OS X without the need for discs.

Browse the web with Safari

Recovery mode now includes the Safari web browser, so you can check your email or browse the Apple Support site.

Reinstall OS X

OS X can be reinstalled on your Mac from recovery mode.
 
I wrote a similar post when Lion was first Previewed, but I think it's worth repeating now...

Lion is a massive cop-out by Apple. It Should have been a revolution in much the same way 10.5 Leopard was coming from 10.4. But instead, we've got iOS gimmicks tacked onto 10.6. "Fullscreen" Apps? Give me a break.

Furthermore, this whole "Download Lion from the Mac App Store" is just a way to get anyone who is NOT using the App Store to start using it. I really hope Apple prove me wrong and offer a DVD option, but for now, Apple have stopped innovating and focused on getting as many iTunes/AppStore/iBooks/Newstand accounts as possible.

/rant
 
How can people say that Lion is a service pack? What is a service pack, anyway?

+1 for the New look of iCal, Address Book
 
FAIL if you've had a disk failure and have inserted a new hard drive.

Apple doesn't want you upgrading your hard drive. You have to remove the whole front case to replace the hard drive in the iMac. And now they're locking that down even further and preventing you from replacing it at all without voiding your warranty.
 
Apple doesn't want you upgrading your hard drive. You have to remove the whole front case to replace the hard drive in the iMac. And now they're locking that down even further and preventing you from replacing it at all without voiding your warranty.

and now explain why apple has made hdds user replaceable in their laptops again?
 
Hopefully this comes out very soon. Looking forward to it

Me too…
In the meantime, I have a game release that I am looking forward to… It's in four days… I'm not going to name it… (no, it's not Duke Forever)…

And, I am occupied with my Pokémon games…
 
I'm done.... They are making macs into toys, and I want a real computer. I've been faithfully buying Macs for 14 years solid. This direction will blow up in their face. Steve Jobs F'ed up in the 80's, and he is doing it again.

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I guess I don't understand one thing: If someone is running an older version of OS X that does not support the app store, how are they supposed to upgrade?

And what about troubleshooting, disk repair, etc that normally requires booting from external media?

:) OS X Lion only works if you have Intel core 2 Duo, i3, i5 or i7. Obviusly you have a old Mac. You need to upgrade your Mac instead of OS X :D
 
:) OS X Lion only works if you have Intel core 2 Duo, i3, i5 or i7. Obviusly you have a old Mac. You need to upgrade your Mac instead of OS X :D

There are definitely Intel Macs running OS 10.5 that can support OS 10.7..........provided the user gets a copy of OS 10.6 to upgrade to first and then downloads 10.6.6 so that they can download OS 10.7
 
im sure if you have slow internet connections or data caps then you will be able to take it to an apple store and do the download over their wi-fi connection

What if you live in an area without Apple Stores and 4 Mbps per years costs way more than a new laptop?
 
I can think of a dozen reasons but how about flooding your downlink and not being able do to a coordinated upgrade on 30 machines in one go? Duh!

Why wouldn't the install work via Remote Desktop like any other installer?
$99 investment to manage even 10 computers is more than worth while.
 
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