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Mac OS X Theme Change in Leopard Seed 9A410
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I also agree. The UI in 9A410 is definitely a placeholder for something bigger to come...
I read most of the comments in this thread before I viewed the photos, and I was expecting the worst, but it's not actually that bad. A unified look is what everyone has been wanting for a long time, and this is a beta.
In some cases I like the gray look they are using now. It's actually nicer than brushed metal, however, the problem with it is that it clashes with the white-colored content areas in windows (examples are top of spotlight compared to bottom of spotlight, system prefs, open window and to a certain extent photo booth).
In the finder it looks alright because there really isn't a clash of themes.
I really liked the theme of mail right now, so I hope that they will include 2 unified looks in Leopard when it ships, this gray one, and a white one too. Allowing users to change the whole theme would be a pretty good step to take I reckon, especially seeing both themes are very nice, but you really shouldn't use both at the same time.
On the issue of the straight corners, at first I was skeptical, but it will actually create a nicer look when you put 2 windows next to each other (instead of right now where you have a few pixels showing through from behind around the corners).
Ooh your right, that is bad... I'd imagine they'll def want to fix that.
Edit: Notice how the spotlight back/forward buttons aren't suffering from the same issue and the view change is actually in a different order with a different button at the end. You'd of thought they'd keep them the same.
In some cases I like the gray look they are using now. It's actually nicer than brushed metal, however, the problem with it is that it clashes with the white-colored content areas in windows (examples are top of spotlight compared to bottom of spotlight, system prefs, open window and to a certain extent photo booth).
In the finder it looks alright because there really isn't a clash of themes.
I really liked the theme of mail right now, so I hope that they will include 2 unified looks in Leopard when it ships, this gray one, and a white one too. Allowing users to change the whole theme would be a pretty good step to take I reckon, especially seeing both themes are very nice, but you really shouldn't use both at the same time.
On the issue of the straight corners, at first I was skeptical, but it will actually create a nicer look when you put 2 windows next to each other (instead of right now where you have a few pixels showing through from behind around the corners).
Ooh your right, that is bad... I'd imagine they'll def want to fix that.
Edit: Notice how the spotlight back/forward buttons aren't suffering from the same issue and the view change is actually in a different order with a different button at the end. You'd of thought they'd keep them the same.
Okay then. Just give Steve a call up and tell him to change it because of your personal preference. I'm sure he'll listen, to you.
Looks like mail but darker.
I kinda like the color scheme in mail (although I may be the only one - I've heard a lot of complaints). This looks like mail only darker. Almost like something between mail and brushed metal. I also like the way Camino looks (same style as mail, at least the beta I am using). I wish they'd make everything look like that.
I kinda like the color scheme in mail (although I may be the only one - I've heard a lot of complaints). This looks like mail only darker. Almost like something between mail and brushed metal. I also like the way Camino looks (same style as mail, at least the beta I am using). I wish they'd make everything look like that.
Smart designeven if it's not final.
I like it.
I understand that it might look bland, but that's the point. If you're working with applications, you don't want to spend time ogling or being distracted with a bright color or multiple elements. The point of an UI is to make things simple and easy to use, while applications, your main focus stands out more.
I like it.
I understand that it might look bland, but that's the point. If you're working with applications, you don't want to spend time ogling or being distracted with a bright color or multiple elements. The point of an UI is to make things simple and easy to use, while applications, your main focus stands out more.
The 'haze' is a repeating 16 x 16 pixel area, with 16 distinct levels of gray in it.
That's enough to encode 128 bytes of information.
I'm I the only weirdo here who actually likes, in a certain way, the smeared pattern on the right side in the finder and open windows? It has some kind of interesting paper texture look...
To make it look interesting, however, I have to bend my macbook glossy screen backwards (opening the lid more than usual)
To make it look interesting, however, I have to bend my macbook glossy screen backwards (opening the lid more than usual)
omg..
EEWWW!!!! SQUARE WINDOW CORNERS! EEWWWWWW! HOW WINDOWS!!! (side note: We have to wait until when? For that? OMG.. enter the new era of the Apple$oft Corporation. Mac OS Vista will be coming soon.)
EEWWW!!!! SQUARE WINDOW CORNERS! EEWWWWWW! HOW WINDOWS!!! (side note: We have to wait until when? For that? OMG.. enter the new era of the Apple$oft Corporation. Mac OS Vista will be coming soon.)
horrible
The grey is much too dark and I have no idea why they ditched rounded corners (the ONLY reason I dont use UNO is because the bottom corners arent rounded, if they were rounded then UNO would be great). Why the hell did it take Apple so long to show this? Are they really that afraid that some company is going to steal this bad idea of theirs? The shade of grey in the preferences is much better than this, this is just amateur.
Obviously the UI will be changed a little for the final, but I dont see why they would make dramatic changes, they would have just stuck with brushed metal.
The grey is much too dark and I have no idea why they ditched rounded corners (the ONLY reason I dont use UNO is because the bottom corners arent rounded, if they were rounded then UNO would be great). Why the hell did it take Apple so long to show this? Are they really that afraid that some company is going to steal this bad idea of theirs? The shade of grey in the preferences is much better than this, this is just amateur.
Obviously the UI will be changed a little for the final, but I dont see why they would make dramatic changes, they would have just stuck with brushed metal.
Very disappointed
It is not just the 4 month delay that is causing the disappointment, its the trend. MacWorld in January saw no new Mac hardware or software, instead the iPhone and Apple TV were anounced there, thats a bit disrespectful to all those people that go to MacWorld to see new Mac anouncements, after all is is "Mac"World. They also said little to nothing about iLife and iWorld at MacWorld, here we are in April and we have yet to hear much about those products, when normaly they are released and expected by the customers in Jan at MacWorld. At the same MacWorld Apple Computer changed their name by dropping the computer part. Then they lied about "10.5 not going to be delayed", now they said it is delayed until October and they use as the excuse the iPhone.
What you see is big time frustration over Apple lesser comitment to the Mac platform, the lies, and the disrespect to the users that have supported the company for many years. Is this the mark of a larger company?
People have a right to be big time disappointed, not just for the delay but for the trend and shift in priorities.
Ill buy Leopard when it comes out, but im disappointed in the priority shift and the way Mac users are being treated by the new Apple.
A sad day when they can not be honest with their customer base. Say no comment, but don't lie. Tell us you gave it a good try but the code for the new features was harder than expected, but don't lie.
It is not just the 4 month delay that is causing the disappointment, its the trend. MacWorld in January saw no new Mac hardware or software, instead the iPhone and Apple TV were anounced there, thats a bit disrespectful to all those people that go to MacWorld to see new Mac anouncements, after all is is "Mac"World. They also said little to nothing about iLife and iWorld at MacWorld, here we are in April and we have yet to hear much about those products, when normaly they are released and expected by the customers in Jan at MacWorld. At the same MacWorld Apple Computer changed their name by dropping the computer part. Then they lied about "10.5 not going to be delayed", now they said it is delayed until October and they use as the excuse the iPhone.
What you see is big time frustration over Apple lesser comitment to the Mac platform, the lies, and the disrespect to the users that have supported the company for many years. Is this the mark of a larger company?
People have a right to be big time disappointed, not just for the delay but for the trend and shift in priorities.
Ill buy Leopard when it comes out, but im disappointed in the priority shift and the way Mac users are being treated by the new Apple.
A sad day when they can not be honest with their customer base. Say no comment, but don't lie. Tell us you gave it a good try but the code for the new features was harder than expected, but don't lie.
Wtf
jeez lighten up.
See 'ya,
John
BTW, the new look is less than what I had hoped. Therefore I hope it is ultimately different than the representations so far...
WTF??? WTF??? Chill out. Did you try to get to the images with the first link? I was asked for a password. Thanks MR for giving us an alternative link. Whether it is formally a "mirror" or not.
jeez lighten up.
See 'ya,
John
BTW, the new look is less than what I had hoped. Therefore I hope it is ultimately different than the representations so far...
i am just as disappointed to hear about the leopard delay. But do we really need all these updates yearly? As long as its not like Window delays I am happy.
And could this shift in priorities be temporary? With iPhone, I can't blame Apple for not focusing on that. This is this HYPED up device. If Apple screws up (and YES Apple has screwed up in the pass) its a big disappointment. There are a lot of expectations riding on it, given iPod's success.
I won't be so quick to judge Apple's priorities till a years time when iPhone has been out and Leopard is out.
Apple didn't show this - some one decided to break there disclosure agreement, or it is a temp GUI, or it is a hoax via shapeshifter, or a photoshop job. It isn't gospel until Apple tells us that it is and even then they can't please everyone.
I have a feeling there are a lot of iPhone, AppleTV interactions. Definitely iPhone
sharp corners
dang, those corners look sharp...as in not rounded at all...as in pointed. Frankly, I like the color of mail for the OS X bundled apps.
dang, those corners look sharp...as in not rounded at all...as in pointed. Frankly, I like the color of mail for the OS X bundled apps.
