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Mac OS X Theme Change in Leopard Seed 9A410

more late breaking apple development screenshots

i think 10.5 is going to be gorgeous!

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all: these pictures break the NDA agreement that all Select and Premiere ADC members agree too.

  • Apple Isn't Done...People on this forum without ADC memberships shouldn't see/pass judgement on these builds
  • the windows are not actually square in the os itself. i'm working in the build...stop crying wolf
  • everyone on here complains that we havn't seen a UI change, Apple makes some changes and everyone wants Tiger back. Pick something and stick with it.
  • The "Eye" icon people are refering to is called "QuickLook"...I'm not saying anything else. It's very very cool though.
  • Build quality between prior builds and this one are night and day. Apple may have delayed it but anyone who has been using these builds knows that it was necessary for them to do so.
  • Software Update has seen some refinements, as well as so many little things in the OS. This is shaping up to be the biggest change through the OS in the history of the OS. (Printer changes are slick, very slick as well as changes in the Control Panels)
  • Please wait to pass judgement until you use it yourself. If your so interested, pay the money and get an ADC membership, otherwise, wait for October. It's worth it.
 
SpaceJello said:
i am just as disappointed to hear about the leopard delay. But do we really need all these updates yearly? As long as its not like Window delays I am happy.

And could this shift in priorities be temporary? With iPhone, I can't blame Apple for not focusing on that. This is this HYPED up device. If Apple screws up (and YES Apple has screwed up in the pass) its a big disappointment. There are a lot of expectations riding on it, given iPod's success.

I won't be so quick to judge Apple's priorities till a years time when iPhone has been out and Leopard is out.
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Yea I understand why the focus is on the phone, they have shreholders that need their bank rolls to grow. It is also cool technology and several other products will likely benefit from the new technology. But ..... just say you may be late, or you are going to be late because OSX new capabilities is taking longer than expected and due to some resource changes. It is bad form to flat out lie and deny the original post of a delay until October. Just the other day they said it would not going to be delayed, not they said it is (OSX).

Yea I understand follow the money, but be honest to the customer or you lose their faith in you and long term may cust you loyal customers.
 
SpaceJello said:
i am just as disappointed to hear about the leopard delay. But do we really need all these updates yearly? As long as its not like Window delays I am happy.
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Yeah, this is what I've been telling people. OS X gets advancements every 1-2.5 years, whereas people in the windows world of dull big boxes are still oohing and ahhing over an operating system that's virtually untouched since the day it shipped almost six years ago.
 
Dumb & Dumberer

Apples biggest competition would have to be Microsoft. Yet they focus on producing a mobile phone instead of an answer to Vista. I can really see a mobile phone company running Apple out of business...
 
HailToTheVictor said:
October for this?

It has the feeling of going backwards, I do not like the grey. Or maybe I am just in a bad mood
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No, they are delaying because they have to shift resources. Apple is a small company compared to MSFT and it is amazing what they have already done with OS X considering their size in such a short time.

There are a number of under the hood things that have to be ironed out before it can be released. No, they will not be spending all their efforts on the new theme.
:rolleyes:
 
mkjellman said:
all: these pictures break the NDA agreement that all Select and Premiere ADC members agree too.

  • Apple Isn't Done...People on this forum without ADC memberships shouldn't see/pass judgement on these builds
  • the windows are not actually square in the os itself. i'm working in the build...stop crying wolf
  • everyone on here complains that we havn't seen a UI change, Apple makes some changes and everyone wants Tiger back. Pick something and stick with it.
  • The "Eye" icon people are refering to is called "QuickLook"...I'm not saying anything else. It's very very cool though.
  • Build quality between prior builds and this one are night and day. Apple may have delayed it but anyone who has been using these builds knows that it was necessary for them to do so.
  • Software Update has seen some refinements, as well as so many little things in the OS. This is shaping up to be the biggest change through the OS in the history of the OS. (Printer changes are slick, very slick as well as changes in the Control Panels)
  • Please wait to pass judgement until you use it yourself. If your so interested, pay the money and get an ADC membership, otherwise, wait for October. It's worth it.
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(posting from Leopard 9A410)
 
Just thought I'd chime in again and mention how I better understand the reason to use the gray theme now, as the lighter-colored theme is for windows not in focus, as shows in the photos on flickr.

So I am starting to like the new look... although I still reckon the current look for mail is better (but I can see how that would be harder for them to then distinguish from windows not in focus - dark compared to light).

I'm sure a few more features will escape out to the web in time... can't wait to hear what "QuickLook" looks like, or what it actually does :p
 
I would assume QuickLooks is like a preview of a document, like what we saw Scott Forestall show in his Time Machine demonstration. Remember the black window came up showing his son's missing keynote presentation? That's my guess on what this is.
 
iMacZealot said:
I would assume QuickLooks is like a preview of a document, like what we saw Scott Forestall show in his Time Machine demonstration. Remember the black window came up showing his son's missing keynote presentation? That's my guess on what this is.
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Wasn't this already known. It is what it is.
 
EagerDragon said:
Yea I understand follow the money, but be honest to the customer or you lose their faith in you and long term may cust you loyal customers.
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Haha, that I agree, its bad form. Many companies do that as well... Windows with Vista, Nintendo with DS lite (they say they weren't going to upgrade and next we know they are). I think its common practice (not necessarily a good one) but many companies do play with PR etc.

The thing about loyal customer is really a thing of the past, many go for the cheapest, and then if they loose me or you as a customer, they will pick up one. We are very disposable for big corps. A number :D
 
EagerDragon said:
It is not just the 4 month delay that is causing the disappointment, its the trend. MacWorld in January saw no new Mac hardware or software, instead the iPhone and Apple TV were anounced there, thats a bit disrespectful to all those people that go to MacWorld to see new Mac anouncements, after all is is "Mac"World. They also said little to nothing about iLife and iWorld at MacWorld, here we are in April and we have yet to hear much about those products, when normaly they are released and expected by the customers in Jan at MacWorld. At the same MacWorld Apple Computer changed their name by dropping the computer part. Then they lied about "10.5 not going to be delayed", now they said it is delayed until October and they use as the excuse the iPhone.

What you see is big time frustration over Apple lesser comitment to the Mac platform, the lies, and the disrespect to the users that have supported the company for many years. Is this the mark of a larger company?

People have a right to be big time disappointed, not just for the delay but for the trend and shift in priorities.

Ill buy Leopard when it comes out, but im disappointed in the priority shift and the way Mac users are being treated by the new Apple.

A sad day when they can not be honest with their customer base. Say no comment, but don't lie. Tell us you gave it a good try but the code for the new features was harder than expected, but don't lie.
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Well said...

I would like to also say that you speak for me and many other Macintosh users who are starting to feel left out and abandoned. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I will say this, OS X is a great secure and stable OS BUT all these releases have been adding things that Windows and OS9 has had for a long time (not counting the handful of innovative new features like expose and dashboard).

To a lot of long-time Windows users like me, OS X STILL seems like a Beta OS... 10.0 (was like a preview, far from complete), 10.1 (faster but still far from complete), 10.2 (more features but not complete), 10.3 (handful of innovative features but the OS is not complete), 10.4 (some more innovative features but STILL the OS is not complete), how long must we wait? Is it ever going to be complete? I mean 10.5 will probably only be about 80% complete and this is all because Apple started completely over in their OS from OS9. My bet is that all 10.x releases are just Apple building a complete OS that we won't see until v11.1 if that.

I don't want to list all the things OS X lacks in that other modern OSes have, lets just say themes and performance issues are only a fraction of the list.

Ubuntu Linux is calling, and I am tempted to answer (FYI Ubuntu updates every 6 months to a new version adding LOTS of features and OS capabilities etc. ALSO Linux is free, open source, secure, stable, and extremely customizable)
 
iMacZealot said:
The guy above me in the last post didn't seem to know.

EDIT: Oops, I didn't notice the :p. I just can't pick up sarcasm well that isn't spoken.
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Must say i have read the entire apple.com section on Leopard. As per your edit, i have no idea what you are talking about.

See here or below:

Apple.com said:
Sometimes you just don’t want to wait. That’s why Leopard introduces Quick Look, a new way to preview a document, picture, or slideshow in a single click, without opening an application. Select a search result and Quick Look displays the result — an iPhoto snapshot, a PDF, an Address Book contact — in a graphic overlay. Quick Look even plays your QuickTime movies, right in the preview window.
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