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Mac OS X Tiger Notes
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Yes, I believe so. I was in the EEP for Panther and got a free copy of that from Apple... It was several weeks after launch though, and I'd already bought it by thenryan said:
Ja Di ksw said:
How would they do it without telling people? Make a unique disc for every copy of OS X? That'd be insane and wasteful
Remember Apple is not MS, since Apple makes most of its profits on its HW and PRO apps. The OS is only good on Apple HW and since you bought it legit (no clones) Apple gives the OS. However there is always both sides of the argument, as some developers are students and if anyone here is a student they know that $$$ is tight as is, thus the piracy issue of BT sites.
Apple is not leaving you cold in the dark, you have an option either buy the HW and get iLife and 10.4 free or you can stay with the previous OS. As for me since I upgrade my HW its not an issue of having the latest OS.
Apple is not leaving you cold in the dark, you have an option either buy the HW and get iLife and 10.4 free or you can stay with the previous OS. As for me since I upgrade my HW its not an issue of having the latest OS.
Please stop posting the link to the BT site that is not taking Apples threats seriously. This is the text, but do not link please.
sooo you all that apparently got yours early, where are the pics of the box and manual and CDs? we all want to see them. or are you lying?
and screenshots!!!
when panther was released, i atleast had pics to drool over for a few days.
and screenshots!!!
when panther was released, i atleast had pics to drool over for a few days.
I think a couple of posts have just disappeared....
BTW... Panther betas were just as much 'torrented as Tiger betas. That GM was "leaked" aswell at the time.
I understand why Apple takes these actions, but I don't understand why now
Or is the swap/share community that much bigger nowadays?
Heck, even when Mac OS X itself was quite a "secret" (before the Public Beta), many DP versions were available via Hotline and Carracho at that time. We didn't hear alot about Apple legal actions back then.
What's so special about Tiger?
BTW... Panther betas were just as much 'torrented as Tiger betas. That GM was "leaked" aswell at the time.
I understand why Apple takes these actions, but I don't understand why now
Or is the swap/share community that much bigger nowadays?
Heck, even when Mac OS X itself was quite a "secret" (before the Public Beta), many DP versions were available via Hotline and Carracho at that time. We didn't hear alot about Apple legal actions back then.
What's so special about Tiger?
I'd gladly pay for a Tiger bittorrent file if Apple made one available, oh for say, perhaps $49? So much of the cost includes pressing, packaging and shipping I'm not willing to pay for.
Since Apple has embraced music downloads, they should embrace software downloads. The technology is certainly in place to provide wide dissemination of electronic data without the high costs associated with it.
Since Apple has embraced music downloads, they should embrace software downloads. The technology is certainly in place to provide wide dissemination of electronic data without the high costs associated with it.
wdlove said:
It's no different from the way it was in Panther, you can skip registration, just the keypress to skip it has been changed.
If apple wanted to force users to adhere to the license agreement (and only install on one computer if it's just a single user license), they wouldn't need a "beginning"- they could just implement it and that's it. But so far, they still have not. Seems they only do this (if i'm not mistaken?) on their expensive "pro" apps...
Installing single user licences on back-up drives
Just out of curiosity, is it legal to install a single user license on external drives in addition to installing it on the build-in drive.
Probably it is, I remember seeing software licenses talking about 'One CPU license' or 'Two CPU license'. And you couldn't run both copies simultaneously, although with same argument you could install it on your home and work computer which some licenses allow and some don't.
Just out of curiosity, is it legal to install a single user license on external drives in addition to installing it on the build-in drive.
Probably it is, I remember seeing software licenses talking about 'One CPU license' or 'Two CPU license'. And you couldn't run both copies simultaneously, although with same argument you could install it on your home and work computer which some licenses allow and some don't.
Well I think taht Apple has to start somewhere. That thinkSecret stuff also could have fired up all that "our secrecy" thing. Tiger as well as other software does belong to them so they have every right to persue those who brake their rules. All my friends have pirate copies windows xp, heck my buddy is even running Longhorn (though really buggy), so I don't think so we wont to happen the same to Apple's OS' ; even if they make most of their money from Hardware sales.
If we want to make OS X the best experience ever, we should support Apple on all-maybe most- of their decision.
Windows users have a valid argument to steal Windows XP, because it sucks and they would be getting ripped off if they pay for it.
However, that is not the case with OS X, so please do all of us and Apple a favore and buy legit copy of Tiger. Otherwise, your just another MS user.
If we want to make OS X the best experience ever, we should support Apple on all-maybe most- of their decision.
Windows users have a valid argument to steal Windows XP, because it sucks and they would be getting ripped off if they pay for it.
However, that is not the case with OS X, so please do all of us and Apple a favore and buy legit copy of Tiger. Otherwise, your just another MS user.
blackcrayon said:
This is going to be annoying when using the family pack when all machines aren't online. I would prefer 5 licence numbers.
Lacero said:
I too would love to be able to download a paid copy of Tiger as soon a it was complete. It seems that Apple can be quite a hypocrite calling music companies (pre-iTunes) distribution model antiquated when they do exactly the same as the RIAA for their software. Come on Apple compete with the torrent sites!
I stole it...
...but I bought it the day after! It's so tight. I don't even have a DVD burner. I accidentally registered it but it really doesn't matter because I actually bought it. I hope all of the people who stole it will buy it now.
It is much snappier than 10.3, although the spotlight feature is not as quick as quicksilver.
Paying for it is worth it.
...but I bought it the day after! It's so tight. I don't even have a DVD burner. I accidentally registered it but it really doesn't matter because I actually bought it. I hope all of the people who stole it will buy it now.
It is much snappier than 10.3, although the spotlight feature is not as quick as quicksilver.
Paying for it is worth it.
swingerofbirch
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As a Swedish Citizen
I am a dual citizen, and have lived in Sweden and may be able to explain the culture a bit.
In general, people don't sue nearly as often as in the states. If you are at a pool, and your child gets hurt, it's much less likely that there will be a lawsuit.
If you're visiting a canyon, they might not have warning signs that falling into said canyon could cause death, etc.
And as far as the law goes regarding free speech, they take that very seriously.
As far as international issues, I know that they refuse to extradite any criminals that could face the death penalty or harsh sentences as well.
Beyond that, I don't know much. But I know the attitude would be to laugh at Apple and ask why the hell they are complaining if they released a product that was capable of being copied and released on the Internet. Swedes are not into so much corporate welfare, where the government steps in to defend corporations, that I do know.
I am a dual citizen, and have lived in Sweden and may be able to explain the culture a bit.
In general, people don't sue nearly as often as in the states. If you are at a pool, and your child gets hurt, it's much less likely that there will be a lawsuit.
If you're visiting a canyon, they might not have warning signs that falling into said canyon could cause death, etc.
And as far as the law goes regarding free speech, they take that very seriously.
As far as international issues, I know that they refuse to extradite any criminals that could face the death penalty or harsh sentences as well.
Beyond that, I don't know much. But I know the attitude would be to laugh at Apple and ask why the hell they are complaining if they released a product that was capable of being copied and released on the Internet. Swedes are not into so much corporate welfare, where the government steps in to defend corporations, that I do know.
BitTorrent Secrecy?
Are people really pretending that Bittorrenting is annonomous? Just hit apple+d in Bittorrnet, then tell me Apple can't find out who's downloading their OS...
Oh and before anyone accuses me of suggesting an illegal activity, macgamefiles.com uses bittorent to distribute large game demos: http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=18598, for instance.
Are people really pretending that Bittorrenting is annonomous? Just hit apple+d in Bittorrnet, then tell me Apple can't find out who's downloading their OS...
Oh and before anyone accuses me of suggesting an illegal activity, macgamefiles.com uses bittorent to distribute large game demos: http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=18598, for instance.
LaMerVipere said:I would love to see some screenshots.
Where might a fellow such as myself obtain such things?
Can I get in trouble for this? I hope Apple doesn't hate me. I did buy this after all.
And more, including grapher:
http://www.micahfitch.com/imagestuff/tigre/
DrNeroCF said:
It's not the downloading.... it's the first uploader.
Anyone using 'torrent, is (or should, at least
) an uploader. But the person responsible for the 'torrent file in the first place, is the one Apple is after.Ofcourse BitTorrent can be used legally (heck, there even is a site dedicated to legal 'torrents ), but one can assume the BitTorrent traffic all over the world is probably more illegal than legal....