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Mac Pro 2008 - not starting !
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UGH.
It's either return it and hope for a refund, or fix it for added cost. Neither is wonderful, but reparing it is likely to have better odds of getting you a working computer for the least amount of cost.
I'm not a big fan of eBay for systems, given the return process in the US (no actual guarantees of a refund, and for another user, it didn't go well IIRC).
Not sure about Poland, as you may have laws that work in your favor that eBay/PayPal (assuming you paid this way) can get around in the fine print. I wish you luck, which ever way you go.
Yeah, as they say in Poland, "dupa zbita!"
Buying an expensive piece of used electronics sight unseen is something I would never do! The seller might have sold you a machine that he knew was dead, or the damage might have occurred during shipping (I know from direct experience roads are pretty bad in Poland), or even while you were attempting some funky upgrade. Who's to know!? Put yourself in the seller's shoes: why should he buy back a broken computer?
This sort of deal is best done face to face. Then again, I can also understand that it might be hard finding someone with a used MP in that part of the world. You and that other fellow might be the only two MP owners in the whole of Poland
Buying an expensive piece of used electronics sight unseen is something I would never do! The seller might have sold you a machine that he knew was dead, or the damage might have occurred during shipping (I know from direct experience roads are pretty bad in Poland), or even while you were attempting some funky upgrade. Who's to know!? Put yourself in the seller's shoes: why should he buy back a broken computer?
This sort of deal is best done face to face. Then again, I can also understand that it might be hard finding someone with a used MP in that part of the world. You and that other fellow might be the only two MP owners in the whole of Poland
Hence the creation of Craig's List. It's much better for computer system purchases, as you can inspect it first, and insist upon verifying operation before paying.Yeah, as they say in Poland, "dupa zbita!"
Buying an expensive piece of used electronics sight unseen is something I would never do! The seller might have sold you a machine that he new was dead, or the damage might have occurred during shipping (I know from direct experience roads are pretty bad in Poland), or even while you were attempting some kind of funky upgrade. Who's to know!? Put yourself in the seller's shoes: why should he buy back a broken computer?
This sort of deal is best done face to face.
EDIT: I verified that CL is in Poland as well. Not that it helps the OP though.
Go to paypal.com and go to the Resolution Center to start a claim. You paid for a working computer, and in many cases, PayPal will guarantee that you receive a working computer.
Did you get it on eBay? Almost every USA eBay transaction is guaranteed in this manner. File a PayPal claim ASAP.
Did you get it on eBay? Almost every USA eBay transaction is guaranteed in this manner. File a PayPal claim ASAP.
I just got brand new case for Mac Pro 2008 with new power supply.
And yeah.... it's the same. No boot, no chime, when I press DIAG I got STBY.
It will go to professional service center, because it's out of warranty.
There must be something wrong with power on logic board.
And yeah.... it's the same. No boot, no chime, when I press DIAG I got STBY.
It will go to professional service center, because it's out of warranty.
There must be something wrong with power on logic board.
That sucks.
I'm not sure if you can find a working board that's used, and the new ones aren't inexpensive. ~$800USD last I saw.Any possiblility/news on a return/claim with eBay?
Or are you stuck with it?
It looks like power supply in this shipped Mac is allright, so that must be 100% logic board.
The cheapest I've found is here: http://www.sunsetmac.com/apple-logi...c-board-for-2-8-3-0ghz-cpu-661-4449-new-p-403
I will took to the service first.
eBay/PayPal refused my complain, because this refund program is only about transportation problems or not receiving item at all, not quality of products ! They are idiots !
BTW: It's really nice to have a new case - no scratches, nice smell etc.
The only problem I got is that there is no serial number at all on both of these cases. Is it anywhere on logic board ?
The cheapest I've found is here: http://www.sunsetmac.com/apple-logi...c-board-for-2-8-3-0ghz-cpu-661-4449-new-p-403
I will took to the service first.
eBay/PayPal refused my complain, because this refund program is only about transportation problems or not receiving item at all, not quality of products ! They are idiots !
BTW: It's really nice to have a new case - no scratches, nice smell etc.
The only problem I got is that there is no serial number at all on both of these cases. Is it anywhere on logic board ?
Well, worst case, you have a spare now.
Not a bad price.
How bad is the shipping (both ways, due to the core requirement) and taxes to you?
OUCH. That's why I wouldn't buy used systems without first inspecting them and testing it out. Some things you can deal with if broken. But a main board isn't one of them.
Take a look here.
It's not quite what you were hoping, but it works to get the OS installed. OK
I hope they won't make any problems.
I'm in contact with one of the best polish services which repair parts, not replace them ! (I can do it myself).
Taxes are only 22% VAT (can get it back, because I can buy this part for my company) + shipment (probably Fedex).
I hope they won't make any problems.
I'm in contact with one of the best polish services which repair parts, not replace them ! (I can do it myself).
Taxes are only 22% VAT (can get it back, because I can buy this part for my company) + shipment (probably Fedex).
It's possible the 3.2GHz systems stripped the CPU microcode for the other parts (2.8 & 3.0GHz), but it wouldn't make much sense to me. I'm wondering if they started with two different boards, but actually decided to use the one you have to save on manufacturing costs, or perhaps had noticed some problem with that for the processors you have.I found that I got a 630-7997 logic board which is designed for Mac Pro 3.2 GHz
So maybe I got wrong processors (Xeon Quad Core E5462 2.8 GHz) ?
It do not start fans even when there are no processors at all...
I'm not sure, as that information would be internal.
I'd take it to the company you've listed, and let them test the board (as I presume you don't have access to 3.2GHz Harpertowns to try yourself).
They told me that Apple is not giving them Logic Board schemes, so the don't know how to fix it !
If they get this motherboard from Apple it will cost me 700$ !
I tried SMC reset, and one time I got OT A - which means CPU A overtemp (I removed front fan compartment).
If they get this motherboard from Apple it will cost me 700$ !
I tried SMC reset, and one time I got OT A - which means CPU A overtemp (I removed front fan compartment).
I got a similar problem a while ago and, old PC-builder that I am, I popped out the battery on the mainboard, waited for 10 secs and put the battery back in. This worked! I guess it can be that the BIOS on the mainboard sometimes needs a reset. No real harm in trying I guess. In my case the problems started when a device connected via Firewire crashed and took out the MacPro with it!
I found this guy on InsanelyMac forums and he knew this computer does not boot ! He even posted a photos of this yellow DIAG led (he deleted them now) !
"Hi, i have a mac pro early 2008 board connected to all the original parts it should have and all i get when i plug the power cbale in is a solid white led light on the front. After a while (15mins) the OT B led comes on the logic board for overheating issues but that proves there is power. Ive spent near $1200 on this build and really need it to work for university. Im 90% sure the logic board is not faulty along with the PSU. There is no reason why it shouldnt power up as it has all the correct ram/cpu fans graphics card etc. Please Please help x"
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/in...pid=1297155&mode=threaded&start=#entry1297155
I've paid with credit card.
"Hi, i have a mac pro early 2008 board connected to all the original parts it should have and all i get when i plug the power cbale in is a solid white led light on the front. After a while (15mins) the OT B led comes on the logic board for overheating issues but that proves there is power. Ive spent near $1200 on this build and really need it to work for university. Im 90% sure the logic board is not faulty along with the PSU. There is no reason why it shouldnt power up as it has all the correct ram/cpu fans graphics card etc. Please Please help x"
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/in...pid=1297155&mode=threaded&start=#entry1297155
I've paid with credit card.
I'm not surprised here. Schematics are hard to get anymore, especially as most companies don't even do their own board work (ODM'ed).
Did you pull the battery when you did this as well?
Might be worth a shot, given the cost of the board. But my guess is it's bad (or the microcode is wrong for the processors).
This is your last course of action to get your money back, so it's worth investigating IMO.
Especially as the board is the likely suspect now.
Yes. Pulled out battery for 10 minutes, then putted it back.
Do I have to start the Mac Pro without the battery and then make SMC reset ?