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Apple Says Their RAM Runs Quieter - Is This A Pitch Worth Believing?

macenforcer said:
Yeah, I don't doubt its the right memory, I just think its the same memory as the link before. LOL. I just pressed submit order on the other link for the 2 x 1gb dimms then you posted that. I was like OH MAN! I emailed crucial. Will find out if I got the right one.
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You did. But you might want to ask them about Apple's pitch that their RAM runs quieter than third party ram.

From the "Learn More..." drop down pane on the config page:

"Please note: Apple created a more robust thermal specification for the Mac Pro FB-DIMM heat sinks that provide more efficient cooling than many other FB-DIMMs. These FB-DIMMs require less airflow to stay cool and allow the internal fans to spin at slower speeds, improving system acoustics. FB-DIMMs made by other manufacturers that do not include a sufficient heat sink may cause the fans to run faster (and louder) or the memory chips to run slower so as not to overheat." :confused:
 
Big Spec, Big price!

Just for fun, a mega spec MacPro. I'll take two!

So at today's exchange rate that will be $15,832.84
 

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Multimedia said:
You did. But you might want to ask them about Apple pitch that their RAM runs quieter than third party ram.

From the "Learn More..." drop down pane on the config page"

"Please note: Apple created a more robust thermal specification for the Mac Pro FB-DIMM heat sinks that provide more efficient cooling than many other FB-DIMMs. These FB-DIMMs require less airflow to stay cool and allow the internal fans to spin at slower speeds, improving system acoustics. FB-DIMMs made by other manufacturers that do not include a sufficient heat sink may cause the fans to run faster (and louder) or the memory chips to run slower so as not to overheat." :confused:
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I would bet the crucial ram does not come with that big heatsink seen on the apple ram but thats nothing that something that some vga heatsinks won't cure. Just stick em on. I actually have a set sitting here. OR it could just be a marketing ploy. :eek:
 
Multimedia said:
Yeah when it goes 8 core and Leopard is on-board, I'll snatch a refurb from the SAVE page.

Intel Core Microarchitecture Roadmap. Found it with Google in about 2 seconds. Did you know that Google is your friend? Some here like to say so without providing links. I on the other hand like to say so with the link you want.
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Thanx
 
Please Explain VGA Heatsinks And Where We Get Them From Who For How Much Money?

macenforcer said:
I would bet the crucial ram does not come with that big heatsink seen on the apple ram but thats nothing that something that some vga heatsinks won't cure. Just stick em on. I actually have a set sitting here. OR it could just be a marketing ploy. :eek:
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Please Explain VGA Heatsinks And Where We Get Them From Who For How Much Money? Yes it looks like a ploy to me. But just enough information to scare :eek: and confuse :confused: me. :p
 
I've been itching for a new Tower for a year. My trusty G4 is running very slow and acting goofy...so I ordered a 2.6 tonight, thinking I could not get it. It popped up, ready to go. $3,100 US. I'm going to have to think about this purchase for a bit.

It's very helpful to read others configurations stratagies, as well as the hunt to get cheaper parts and figure out what the upgrades do.

Like any new release, it's going to take time fort he parts suppliers to get geared up to serving the Quads. Nothing like contemplating spending $3k to help slow down the thought process. Time to read reports from the brave group of beta testers, to become better informed.

I like the idea that unless one has a special need, just go with stock, it will probably run faster on everything than I ever need!

And we all know in about a week in a half there will be a brand new crop of BUG reports! There _always_ is.
Such a short honeymoon for some...

I'm guessing a few minor component heat problems.

Think I'll wait for those reports, now that the Quads are finally here, I can take my time. If my G4 breaks, then I'll hurry.

Keep the reports coming in guys, much appreciated. Let the games begin:)
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Dave
 
Multimedia said:
Did everyone notice that they have priced the 2.66 GHz such that it makes no sense to buy 2GHz and 3GHz models? 2GHz is too little less and 3GHz is too much more. Crazy. Apple must have gotten an amazing price on the 2.66GHz Woodcrest.
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Thanks for your posts Multimedia.

Last night I ordered a 3.0Ghz Mac Pro. Cancelled it this morning and ordered the 2.66GHz version. You always seem to have to pay disproportionally more for the top level. Financially it makes more sense to by the base model. Inside, I hate the idea that I am not getting the faster one, but the £500 or$800 difference is just too much!
 
Glassbathroom said:
Thanks for your posts Multimedia.

Last night I ordered a 3.0Ghz Mac Pro. Cancelled it this morning and ordered the 2.66GHz version. You always seem to have to pay disproportionally more for the top level. Financially it makes more sense to by the base model. Inside, I hate the idea that I am not getting the faster one, but the £500 or$800 difference is just too much!
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I guess when the prices come down you could buy the 3.0GHz chip and do a self upgrade assuming the new processors are socket based
 
aswitcher said:
I would be happy even with less PCIs.
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I think 1 full, thick x16 and 1 full x1 would be enough for me (I don't want less)
It would be good to offer Kentsfield, but I imagine it and Allendale would be ripoffs
compared to a Conroe configuration, like it happens with these Xeon speeds.
 
Evangelion said:
And the default-card could be something faster, while the penny-pinchers could have a cheaper BTO-model. Fact is that there are PC's out there that cost maybe half of MacPro, that offer way better vid-cards.



They could have a better vid-card in there, while keeping the price the way it is. Yes, Apple would have slightly less margins, but not that much. And there would still be an option for cheaper vid-card. 7300 is a low-end card. It really is.

In short: I'm saying that they should offer better vid-card as standard for that amount of money they are asking. You (and others) are basically saying that they shouldn't do that?

I might sound like I hate the new machine. I don't. It's a clear step forward, and I would REALLY like to have one :). But I dislike when we have such a great machine that have few flaws in it. The vid-card flaw would cost a bit for Apple to fix, but it shouldn't be anything major. The wireless-issue is just lame. It can be found in their bottom of the barrel machine (like Mini), yet their uber-machine doesn't have it?
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I'm not sure I follow your line of reasoning. They offer a couple of sweet vid card upgrades BTO. It's not as if they aren't being offered.
 
Not complaining, but...

My 2 cents: these seem like awesome machines, beautifully architected and fairly well priced all things considered (ignoring silly things like having to pay for wi-fi, Bluetooth). Superb machines for professionals. But, is there not a sizeable prosumer market out there too? I would put myself in that category, my needs/ uses being as follows:

Office type apps
Browsing
Webs site management
Music
Photo editing and management - personal only, using PS
Video editing and DVD authoring - personal only, using FC Express
Dual monitors (important)

Clearly the MacPro will (more than) comfortably manage all that - but at a price and form factor that really is overkill. I will order one, but I would much rather a mini-tower (cube sized) box with a decent video card with Dual monitor support, 1x HDD, dual core chips, 1 x Superdrive, 2gb RAM. Am I the only one?

Bring back Franklin!
 
Does anyone know if the Mac Pros take the standard Airport Extreme Cards. I can't find details anywhere.

Including Airport as an option adds 3 weeks to your order time, so I am guessing it might not be the same.
 
Glassbathroom said:
Does anyone know if the Mac Pros take the standard Airport Extreme Cards. I can't find details anywhere.

Including Airport as an option adds 3 weeks to your order time, so I am guessing it might not be the same.
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No, it doesn't. It takes a special PCI Express x1 card.
 
wildmac said:
REPEAT AFTER ME: NOT EVERYONE NEEDS A VIDEO CARD WITH 512RAM. NOT EVERYONE IS PLAYING DOOM.

Seriously, a lot of these WORKSTATIONS will never use apps that require more than that video card. Many will be headless. Why put a $350 video card in there?..

It's called CHOICE.
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It's not the fact that I want the best video card to play games with but I thought Apple would at least put an ATi X600 or the newer ATi X1600 as standard because of the iMac lines. I'd actually be very happy with an ATi X600 with 256MB in the Mac Pro instead of the nVidia GeForce 7300GT.

The other thing I have noticed (and I'm am sorry if I am repeating anything voiced before) but why doesn't the Mac Pro come with the Apple remote?
 
Eidorian said:
No, it doesn't. It takes a special PCI Express x1 card.
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Thanks Eidorian,

Super fast reply!!!

Do you know any details about cost etc on these? Is there anything on the website about this or have you asked someone at WWDC?
 
Glassbathroom said:
Thanks Eidorian,

Super fast reply!!!

Do you know any details about cost etc on these? Is there anything on the website about this or have you asked someone at WWDC?
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It looks like you're going to have to go to an Apple Store or get an AASP to order and install it.

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/HardwareDrivers/Conceptual/Mac_Pro_0608/index.html

Mac Pro Computers (August 2006)
The Mac Pro computers announced in August 2006, based on the Dual-Core Intel Xeon processor, have an optional, internal AirPort Extreme wireless LAN module. The AirPort Extreme module connects through a one-lane PCI Express bus to the South Bridge IC. The Mac Pro has built-in antennas. AirPort Extreme is available as a fully-integrated configure-to-order option or as an Apple Authorized Service Provider kit, which can be installed by an Apple retail store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider.

Note: The Mac Pro contains 802.11b, 802.11g, and 802.11a radios; however, Apple supports only 802.11b and 802.11g.
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Mac Pro Computers (August 2006)
The Mac Pro computers announced in August 2006, based on the Dual-Core Intel Xeon processor, provide support for an optional, internal Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR (enhanced data rate) through a port on the USB 2.0 controller. Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR is available as a fully-integrated configure-to-order option or as an Apple Authorized Service Provider kit, which can be installed by an Apple retail store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider. Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR has an external antenna.
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anyone know if this is possible

order the normal dual 3ghz config with the 7300 vid card
but i want to install bootcamp in this system..
Can i use the Nvidia 7300 vid card for OSX but let say bootcamp to windows with a Nvidia 7950GX2?
so i'll have 2 vid cards in the system since it's up to 4 hehe

Man can't wait to order this system! althought i play alot of games.. so i kinda want the faster graphics chip..
 
It looks like you're going to have to go to an Apple Store or get an AASP to order and install it.
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I called the Apple Store online and they told me there would definitely be a kit available at the Apple store.
 
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