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Mac Pro COST TOO MUCH!!!

termina3 said:
new equipment does not equal better skills ...

The best can work with bad equipment
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Ha. How true. I once worked in a professional MAJOR global ad agency (about 17 years ago) where there were only b/w monitors, and no colour printers. We only saw how our work looked when it got back from the printers. Sounds ridiculous now, but it's testament to the skill of the art directors that hardly anything went back for corrections.

Sadly, these days I all too frequently meet people who think that skills are automatically installed along with software: "Hey, I just bought Adobe's Creative Suite! I'm a professional designer now!"

Buying a grand piano doesn't make you Beethoven.
 
Im a TV and Film student at college and we edit on Quicksilver G4's... Think they're 1.25Ghz, cause thats what the Ram is.. sure they were the same lol... I will check on monday...

Either way, they are running Jaguar and AVID 3.5.... both old pieces of software, but, they do the job. Ok, they arent as fast as my MP... hell, my Macbook is faster... but, it does the job I need it to do.

Oh, and if you want to be able to fully crash your mac... video edit with old software... and never let them go to sleep! :D
 
As much as I want a Mac Pro, I decided to just spend a little bit of money and upgrade my current tower. I think I'll be looking at an iMac or Apple notebook in the future.
 
I just bought an mbp and its expensive. Does it make me a better designer NO! Does it make me faster Yes! But I do agree with the person who said look at your site. I'm not the best and I'm still learning but if your coming at me or other people to donate money to you, you should have a awsome or at least a nice website. Cause right now it looks like a mac pro would be to much machine for you right now. Before i got this (MBP)I was working on a Dell 2.8ghz and 1gb of ram and it did just fine with Avid, Photoshop and Illustrator(might wanna give that a try) I do agree its not the machine its the person, so get an job and start saving.

Just get an job save, sell stuff you don't use. I had to sell my Cannon GL2 and death lens and a Akai MPC1000 to help fund mine.
 
This just about wraps up this post. Thank You ALL!.....WRONG! KEEP IT GOING!!!
 
About the Mac Pro being so expensive...

Of course it's going to be expensive since it has server parts in it. It is meant to be a server, unlike the G5 tower, which fit the profile of being a regular desktop.

Let's look at the RAM first of all. It's fully buffered and it is outrageously expensive to upgrade to 4 gigs+. I feel sorry for the SOB who gets stuck with paying the utterly ridiculous price on a machine that, chances are, they won't be able to utilize entirely.

There is no reason for a Mac Pro being a desktop savvy machine. It's way to expensive to make into the ultimate machine. The next thing that it needs more than anything else has got to be more options. I mean, I personally rather have a Core 2 Extreme or something along those lines as opposed to the XEON which needs the expensive FB-RAM. The clock speeds would remain the same and I would be able to throw in my cheaper and just-as-good unbuffered RAM and then be able to upgrade things for less.

But that's not the only changes that I am suggesting.

I would love to own a Mac Pro, but I would still give much thought to buying a quad G5 and looking at what I actually need the thing to do.
 
leviticus said:
Let's look at the RAM first of all. It's fully buffered and it is outrageously expensive to upgrade to 4 gigs+. I feel sorry for the SOB who gets stuck with paying the utterly ridiculous price on a machine that, chances are, they won't be able to utilize entirely.
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You can get 8GB for under $400. That is way cheaper than G5 RAM was when I bought it.

leviticus said:
I mean, I personally rather have a Core 2 Extreme or something along those lines as opposed to the XEON which needs the expensive FB-RAM.
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Please don't start that topic in this thread. There are enough of the C2Extreme fans over in the mid-tower thread.

leviticus said:
I would love to own a Mac Pro, but I would still give much thought to buying a quad G5 and looking at what I actually need the thing to do.
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Great, it's too much machine for you, move on.
 
Graphis said:
Ha! Mac Pro's cost too much? You guys in the US don't know how lucky you are!! I costed a Mac Pro at the spec I wanted, together with a few extras (500GB hard drive, 4GB RAM, 23" monitor etc etc) at Apple's online US store. The total cost was $6310.00. Converted to GBP, that equals £3,050.96, at today's prices. But to buy the exact same setup here in the UK from Apple's UK online store, it costs £4215.00 ($8717.46) That's almost £1200 ($2400) difference!

I'm wondering, how much would I save if I bought one in the US and got it shipped over? Is this even possible? Heck, for £300 ($600) I could fly over to NY, buy a MP, fly back same day with it on my lap:)
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I feel your pain. I wouldn't ship it though. They'll slap you with a hefty customs fee if you do and what about Apple care?

This being said I'm seriously thinking of driving up to Buffalo ( I live in Toronto) and picking up a Mac Pro there once the new ones are in.
Currently the same system costs 4612$US on the US site and 5,320$CAD on the canadian one. Given the current parity of US and canadian dollars it might be worth the trip.
 
V.K. said:
I feel your pain. I wouldn't ship it though. They'll slap you with a hefty customs fee if you do and what about Apple care?

This being said I'm seriously thinking of driving up to Buffalo ( I live in Toronto) and picking up a Mac Pro there once the new ones are in.
Currently the same system costs 4612$US on the US site and 5,320$CAD on the canadian one. Given the current parity of US and canadian dollars it might be worth the trip.
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You should definitely do that :D The exchange is like $1.1US:$1CAD now right? So you'll be saving over $1100CAD!
 
leviticus said:
About the Mac Pro being so expensive...

Of course it's going to be expensive since it has server parts in it. It is meant to be a server, unlike the G5 tower, which fit the profile of being a regular desktop.

Let's look at the RAM first of all. It's fully buffered and it is outrageously expensive to upgrade to 4 gigs+. I feel sorry for the SOB who gets stuck with paying the utterly ridiculous price on a machine that, chances are, they won't be able to utilize entirely.

There is no reason for a Mac Pro being a desktop savvy machine. It's way to expensive to make into the ultimate machine. The next thing that it needs more than anything else has got to be more options. I mean, I personally rather have a Core 2 Extreme or something along those lines as opposed to the XEON which needs the expensive FB-RAM. The clock speeds would remain the same and I would be able to throw in my cheaper and just-as-good unbuffered RAM and then be able to upgrade things for less.

But that's not the only changes that I am suggesting.

I would love to own a Mac Pro, but I would still give much thought to buying a quad G5 and looking at what I actually need the thing to do.
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We'll actually RAM is a little cheaper now for a Mac Pro tha it is for a G5, but the Mac Pro is still $2094+, and it has been a year & a half now since it's been that price. I will probably wait another year. Skip the G5, I can use my old G4 for classic, now that I just realized.
 
Anyone that buys extra memory from Apple has a screw loose.
8GB of FB DIMMs from OWC is now $320, from Apple, $1699.
 
netdog said:
Compare it to the comparable Dell and HP and you will realize that the Mac Pro is a bargain.
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You're right, because according to Macworld, they evened out the Mac Pro and a DELL. the Mac Pro was nearly one grand cheaper.
 
This isn't so any more Now the dell is a way better deal with new processors and more standard ram. The dell also has better Graphics options and higher ram capacity.
 
Techguy172 said:
This isn't so any more Now the dell is a way better deal with new processors and more standard ram. The dell also has better Graphics options and higher ram capacity.
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I don't think a DELL can hold up to 32GB of RAM! Plus, the MAc Pro is better, regardless. Graphics cards don't mean sh*t to new Macs.:cool:
 
All these folks saying how great Dell's are, in a MAC forum? I reckon they're Dell employees paid to do viral marketing in effort to steal some custom from Apple. Won't work with me though: I sold my soul to Satan... er, I mean Steve Jobs... a long time ago:D
 
Techguy172 said:
No the dell can hold 64gb of ram. and 128gb in Q2 2008
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No reason to think the new MPs won't support 64GB. There are lower voltage FB-DIMMs now I believe. The dell's are still going to be alot more expensive for what you get than the MP. Just the different business models of Apple and Dell.
 
There is absolutely no reason for you to buy a Mac Pro. Especially with money from "donations".

I would invest in a camcorder first, judging from the quality of the video.
 
Sawtooth811 said:
I don't think a DELL can hold up to 32GB of RAM! Plus, the MAc Pro is better, regardless. Graphics cards don't mean sh*t to new Macs.:cool:
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Indeed.

Graphics cards don't mean sh*t to new Macs :cool:
CPUs don't mean sh*t to new Macs :cool:
Storage don't mean sh*t to new Macs :cool:
Memory don't mean sh*t to new Macs :cool:
Wireless don't mean sh*t to new Macs :cool:

What are Mac users who say that? sh*t :cool:
 
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