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Mac Pro CPU and GPU Upgrades See Significant Price Drop

ekwipt said:
i think design wise it's pretty beautiful, but they should've been working on the next design straight away, i was never going to accomodate bigger graphics cards etc, not everyone wants everything scaled down, some need raw power
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If Apple was gonna use this crazy design... they should have made it ready for yearly updates.

Some call that a "roadmap"

These are multi-thousand-dollar investments by their customers... who need to be aware of future support and the aforementioned roadmaps.

It sounds like Apple got trapped by the design of the cylindrical case... and couldn't ever make new parts to fit in it.

Hmmm... they shoulda made the safe bet with a standard tower case. And they wonder why everyone else sticks with it.

These aren't pretty.... but they work. We don't see headlines like "Dell hasn't updated their Precision workstations in 1,202 days.... :)

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Michael Scrip said:
How often to non-ECC systems "glitch out" anyway?

I've never owned a Xeon or ECC system. No problems here. My i7-4790K Windows system is just peachy.

And its Geekbench scores are similar to most Mac Pros. At a fraction of the cost.

Just curious... if Xeons and ECC are stable... does that mean Apple's regular i7 systems are unstable? :)
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https://research.google.com/pubs/pub35162.html

About a third of machines and over 8% of DIMMs in our fleet saw at least one correctable error per year. Our per-DIMM rates of correctable errors translate to an aver- age of 25,000–75,000 FIT (failures in time per billion hours of operation) per Mbit and a median FIT range of 778 – 25,000 per Mbit (median for DIMMs with errors), while pre- vious studies report 200-5,000 FIT per Mbit. The number of correctable errors per DIMM is highly variable, with some DIMMs experiencing a huge number of errors, compared to others. The annual incidence of uncorrectable errors was 1.3% per machine and 0.22% per DIMM.
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You'll have to decide whether this is worrisome. And we have a right to judge you for your insolence. ... or your profligacy.
 
Michael Scrip said:
If Apple was gonna use this crazy design... they should have made it ready for yearly updates.

Some call that a "roadmap"

These are multi-thousand-dollar investments by their customers... who need to be aware of future support and the aforementioned roadmaps.

It sounds like Apple got trapped by the design of the cylindrical case... and couldn't ever make new parts to fit in it.

Hmmm... they shoulda made the safe bet with a standard tower case. And they wonder why everyone else sticks with it.

These aren't pretty.... but they work. We don't see headlines like "Dell hasn't updated their Precision workstations in 1,202 days.... :)

OdOOoRP.jpg
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Definitely not pretty and not Apple like at all, Apple could design some sort of modular hardware without going back to tower designs
 
magicschoolbus said:
Apple is looking for a REASON to kill the mac.

They have made it obvious that they do not want the mac in their lineups.

By not upgrading it; sales go down; it gives them reason to put the nail in the coffin.

Just get it over already Apple. Everyone is tired of you dragging us along.

Put a bullet in the mac line up already; the current lineup is a disgrace. No upgrades, glued parts, insane prices, you can't even plug your flagship product into a new 3k macbook without a freaking adapter.

This has all been done intentionally - to slowly kill off your Mac line up because you cannot control the content on Mac. You have tried with your crappy Gatekeeper software (terrible) and it failed. Now, you are trying to kill off the Mac entirely because you can't control the content via the App Store- where you already make most of your $.

Long live the classic macbook pro.
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I hope they keep making Macs, it would be a mistake for them to quit.
I Love the Iphone but buy them partly because I like they way they integrate with the Mac.
I would think most people would jump ship if they stopped making the Mac?
 
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ekwipt said:
Definitely not pretty and not Apple like at all, Apple could design some sort of modular hardware without going back to tower designs
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Well we know the "trashcan" design was a bust.

There's gotta be something between that and a normal computer tower.

Cupertino... start your design engines! :)
 
Finally Apple has realized the way to grow the company is not by selling $50 plastic watch bands and $80 plastic iPad cases.

Hoping for the long wished for "xMac" - the minitower Macintosh.
 
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$1000 off the 12-core... Well done Apple. u build an expensive machine, so it kinda makes sense give them more of a discount.
 
And the joke of the day... they updated the Mac Pros.. a 4 year old computer that no one buys.

Someone tell them that April fools was 4 days ago!!

The painfull truth, Apple DO NOT care about the "PROs".
Otherwise they would have develop something in 4 years. Or updated the iMac in 540 days.
You can see how they care about the "Pros" by what they did to the latest Macbook "Pro". The worst design in years....

It is quite funny that it took them 4 years to realize this. Both Phill Schiller and Federighi should be fired...
Just for the mere reason of updating a 4 year old computer....that is outdated...

Sadly Apple has become a phone company.
You want innovation... look at the Surface Studio.

Really extremely sad being a long time Apple user...
 
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4jasontv said:
Here is why I dislike these responses: it's fundamentally wrong. Apple customers care about the brand and the quality of heir products. They are not like customers of other products. They have an emotional investment in the performance, reception, and productivity of Apple. This isn't gum. Apple customers may have decades of time and money invested in the ecosystem and brand. They have attached their soul to a culture they have helped craft. This may seem absurd to you, but it isn't to them. They care about this stuff. They care a lot. They care enough to join, and contribute to a forum to share their relationship with Apple. So act smug, but there is in fact someone forcing them to buy it: themselves. So yeah, you are wrong. Disagree if you want, but don't try and act like the Apple culture exists independent of their products. There is a reason this site is so large, and lasted so long. Even the birth of MacRumors was due to the existance of so many Mac Fan sites it was inevitable that a MacRome would emerge. We welcome you, even if you don't want to live here, but try not to be rude.

(Personally I didn't like the OP comparison, but I am willing to respect the attempt to provide an understandable analogy.)
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This would apply if there was only a single Mac.

Instead, you can access and participate in the ecosystem with any of a number of Macs at different price points and with different specs.
 
The only customisable part in the new Mac Pro will be the casing. You get to choose any colour and design like Apple watch straps.
 
jerwin said:
That's pretty tempting. Alas, I already have an iMac 5K.
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I wouldn't though. Odds are your iMac is already faster, if you have the i7 like me. This is why I went with an iMac at the time they were released. They benchmark much faster than the 4 core Mac Pros, and came with an awesome 5k screen!
 
So I see all this as good news that they are continuing the Mac Pro and also increasing the performance in the iMac. However, I have no idea what to do now as I need a workstation. Do I buy the old Mac Pro and stick with it for a year, or move over to way more powerful PC's. All my software is available on a PC so no issues there, plus there are way more options for me.

If the Mac Pro was coming out in October I would try and hold on. But the fact there is no actual release year mentioned still leaves me in the same position I was before they announced anything!
 
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If you want to stick to Apple get a 5k iMac IMO not sure what you are doing with it though (important)

or build a PC and stick windows 10 and MacOS Sierra on it :)
 
WylyQuimby said:
To claim the Mac Pro is five years old is crazy. It came out in the last week of 2013. Most people who ordered theirs right away got them in early 2014. AppleCare would be just running out now.
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The D300, D500 and D700 GPUs are based on the AMD 7000 series chipsets which were released (not announced) in January of 2012.

That's hot garbage right there.
 
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ssgbryan said:
Currently, I have the following:

1300+ movies, 3,000+ CDs, and 500+ TV shows. Next month, I'll be upgrading my 4TB iTunes library with 4TB drives, so I can get the rest of my TV shows into iTunes. Do you have any concept of how much space that takes up? I literally had two walls of media. Now, I buy, throw it into the Mac Pro, rip it, and put the disc away, so it doesn't get damaged.
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Same idea here... Almost 3500 movies, many of them from Blu ray (courtesy of MakeMKV). Add in the TV shows and the music collection and I have over 11TB of active content (currently on an 18TB RAID mirrored by another identical RAID). Though I used a 2013 iMac for most of the processing, my biggest gripe isn't the hardware, or even the cost of the drives. My nightmare is trying to scroll through the movies on my new model AppleTV. There is NO way to get to "Zoolander" without lots and lots and lots and lots of painfully slow, cramp-inducing thumb work. I'm switching to Plex next week.

As for Apple... I just think they have lost their way, and are focused on inventing and pushing feature sets that have no real-world use anywhere but an advertising page. Stickers? Give me an effing break... FIX THE DAMN REMOTE! And the interface. And iTunes. And iCloud (shudder). And the list goes on.
 
btbeme said:
Same idea here... Almost 3500 movies, many of them from Blu ray (courtesy of MakeMKV). Add in the TV shows and the music collection and I have over 11TB of active content (currently on an 18TB RAID mirrored by another identical RAID). Though I used a 2013 iMac for most of the processing, my biggest gripe isn't the hardware, or even the cost of the drives. My nightmare is trying to scroll through the movies on my new model AppleTV. There is NO way to get to "Zoolander" without lots and lots and lots and lots of painfully slow, cramp-inducing thumb work. I'm switching to Plex next week.

As for Apple... I just think they have lost their way, and are focused on inventing and pushing feature sets that have no real-world use anywhere but an advertising page. Stickers? Give me an effing break... FIX THE DAMN REMOTE! And the interface. And iTunes. And iCloud (shudder). And the list goes on.
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I struggle with the scrolling too but you can just grab the scroll bar and drag or search in iTunes. Probably a key command too I'd think.
 
magicschoolbus said:
Apple is looking for a REASON to kill the mac.

They have made it obvious that they do not want the mac in their lineups.

By not upgrading it; sales go down; it gives them reason to put the nail in the coffin.

Just get it over already Apple. Everyone is tired of you dragging us along.

Put a bullet in the mac line up already; the current lineup is a disgrace. No upgrades, glued parts, insane prices, you can't even plug your flagship product into a new 3k macbook without a freaking adapter.

This has all been done intentionally - to slowly kill off your Mac line up because you cannot control the content on Mac. You have tried with your crappy Gatekeeper software (terrible) and it failed. Now, you are trying to kill off the Mac entirely because you can't control the content via the App Store- where you already make most of your $.

Long live the classic macbook pro.
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I can't believe someone is bearing a sexual predator's avatar on a Mac forum. Unapologetically.
 
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