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Mac Pro Launch Nears as Apple Business Staff Begin Offering Price Quotes
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Seems a shame that the Mac Mini Pro will be out of the high end consumer's price range. However, when one looks at what you get with the quad system the price is actually about right or slightly better than one should expect given the parts, speed and TB2.
I hope Apple come through with a new Mac Mini with better video and of course newer CPU. Apple has set me on this path since they couldn't figure out that if they had made a Mac (mini) Pro with single video card, and dropped the price to say 2500 they might have increased the market for these new machines.
Something I never understood:
During the keynote they showed how you can grab the Mac Pro by the top and turn it around for port access. How is this going to work if you already have a bunch of things plugged in?
The design is superb and it looks super clean and simplistic on its own. But once you plug in a bunch of stuff, you're probably going to want to hide this thing under your desk.
During the keynote they showed how you can grab the Mac Pro by the top and turn it around for port access. How is this going to work if you already have a bunch of things plugged in?
The design is superb and it looks super clean and simplistic on its own. But once you plug in a bunch of stuff, you're probably going to want to hide this thing under your desk.
With the Pro released, Apple's product line has an odd gap in pricing. Starting with the $599 mini, computers rise up by a few hundred dollar increments until $1999, then a jump to $2999.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the base Pro go down to $2499 when the second gen. is released.
The purported $10K model better have some real power and performance behind it. If the benchmark extrapolations last month accurately reflect the performance compared to older Pros, the product is little more than a prestige novelty.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the base Pro go down to $2499 when the second gen. is released.
The purported $10K model better have some real power and performance behind it. If the benchmark extrapolations last month accurately reflect the performance compared to older Pros, the product is little more than a prestige novelty.
It'll be suffering another fate, the lack of enough TB2 controllers and Xeons. Intel is causing this delay.
You can only see the two basic configuration prices that everyone has been able to see for a long time now.
Also, the address is: apple.com/ch
I want so badly to love this but i can't. It's the one thing Apple could make without mass market appeal, without dumbing it down, without simplicity for simplicity's sake.
It's a point and shoot to an SLR
It's an 8track player to a hifi
a crosley to a marantz
It's a ford explorer to a land rover
etc, i'm too drunk
like i said i tried to love it.
It's a point and shoot to an SLR
It's an 8track player to a hifi
a crosley to a marantz
It's a ford explorer to a land rover
etc, i'm too drunk
like i said i tried to love it.
No not really. Cheaper? Yes by a HUGE margin. Better? No.
I will admit that building one does give you a great satisfaction that you were able to do it and get Mavericks running on something you built for a fraction of the cost. However the amount of frustration that you may potentially encounter with each OS update is something much to be desired.
Considering how powerful these nMPs are going to be and the ridiculous amounts of money you could spec the old Mac Pro to, these could actually turn out to be quite reasonably priced.
For an OSX machine. OSX always comes with a a price mark up, but then it works. Keep in mind that these are made as tools for people that make money from using such a machine. At these prices they could stand to be a decent investment as opposed to an overpriced shiny Apple toy.
For an OSX machine. OSX always comes with a a price mark up, but then it works. Keep in mind that these are made as tools for people that make money from using such a machine. At these prices they could stand to be a decent investment as opposed to an overpriced shiny Apple toy.
If you're buying a pro machine then you're hardly likely to settle for the bargain-bucket keyboard, mouse and monitor that a PC vendor will throw in for free.
The problem is you're treating the new Mac Pro as a drop-in replacement for your old big box 'o' slots, and trying to re-create every slot and port.
That's partly Apple's fault for running down and discontinuing the old Mac Pro before the new Pro was out of the starting gate - they should have run the two side-by-side for a while. However, I guess they saw the box'o'slots market as a dead end in which they couldn't compete without cannibalizing sales of their boutique systems.
With a nMP system, your specialist hardware will be in self-contained external modules that can be mixed, matched, shared, connected to laptops and taken out in the field when needed. Your data will be on the network or in portable external devices. Lots of users are already headed in that direction anywhere (when I visited a pro video shop 5 years ago everything important was already on external drives ).
The other key to the Mac Pro will be if the price and choice of Thunderbolt stuff improves. It might if the MacPro and Thunderbolt 2 increases demand for things like PCIe chassis and >1GB ethernet adapters: currently, wanting to attach such things to a laptop or SFF is a bit niche.
See, now you're reaching. You can migrate data with a $5 ethernet cable or a $30 SATA-to-USB dock which pro users are likely to have lying around anyway. That's if your data isn't already on external drives or the network (backups, anybody?)
Why would you put much stock in hear-say rumors, and lend credence to FUD spouters, and then do a little spouting here yourself? Unless you have advance access to comprehensive test reports, benchmarks, available configurations and pricing structure, keep an open mind for a couple more days.
UK Pricing?
Ok this is probably wrong but I've based this on the UK exchange rate and markup percentage from both the US and Canada. (Assuming the business quotes posted were correct)
Pro 1 (US quote 5092 USD)
(6-core, 32gb ram, 512gb flash, dual d500) = £4218 (inc VAT)
35% more than current UK exchange rate
Pro 2 (Canadian quote 7700 CAD)
(8-core, 64gb ram, 512gb flash, dual d700) = £6202 (inc VAT)
39% more than current UK exchange rate
Pro 3 (Canadian quote 9700 CAD)
(12core, 64gb ram, 1tb flash, dual d700) = £7813 (inc VAT)
39% more than current UK exchange rate
I tried to work out the upgrade prices but theres too many unknowns to make an educated calculation. Does anyone know what the business discounts typically are?
Ok this is probably wrong but I've based this on the UK exchange rate and markup percentage from both the US and Canada. (Assuming the business quotes posted were correct)
Pro 1 (US quote 5092 USD)
(6-core, 32gb ram, 512gb flash, dual d500) = £4218 (inc VAT)
35% more than current UK exchange rate
Pro 2 (Canadian quote 7700 CAD)
(8-core, 64gb ram, 512gb flash, dual d700) = £6202 (inc VAT)
39% more than current UK exchange rate
Pro 3 (Canadian quote 9700 CAD)
(12core, 64gb ram, 1tb flash, dual d700) = £7813 (inc VAT)
39% more than current UK exchange rate
I tried to work out the upgrade prices but theres too many unknowns to make an educated calculation. Does anyone know what the business discounts typically are?
Reminds me so much of the G4 Cube. In a good way
It reminds me of the G4 cube in a bad way.
It reminds me of the G4 Cube in a mostly good way and a little bit in a bad way.
I want it - and it depends on the 4K monitors and pricing of external TB2 SSD storage.
Out of interest, as a serious tool to get some work done.
What is the benefit for a round case other than a square case?
Given internal cubic space, a cube/oblong would of either help more inside (if you gave the current round shape corners)
Or you could of made it even smaller and encased the same components.
What are the advantages in a business sense or rounding the corners off a box?
What is the benefit for a round case other than a square case?
Given internal cubic space, a cube/oblong would of either help more inside (if you gave the current round shape corners)
Or you could of made it even smaller and encased the same components.
What are the advantages in a business sense or rounding the corners off a box?
I did notice that Apple is offering decent education discounts on the Mac Pros, which takes a bit of the sting off the price.
What many detractors in this thread don't seem to get is that the new Mac Pro is a roadmap of Apple's future. Their software is now going to be focused on taking advantage of the GPU. The main processor is no longer as important. That's why current benchmarks are meaningless without a unit running optimized software.
I expect that all future devices from Apple will concentrate on better GPUs, rather than umpteen-core main processors.
What many detractors in this thread don't seem to get is that the new Mac Pro is a roadmap of Apple's future. Their software is now going to be focused on taking advantage of the GPU. The main processor is no longer as important. That's why current benchmarks are meaningless without a unit running optimized software.
I expect that all future devices from Apple will concentrate on better GPUs, rather than umpteen-core main processors.
Seems like a very expensive upgrade (~$1,500?) to gain the 512gb SSD and 32gb of RAM.
Personally I'm not sure I'd buy RAM upgrades on the new Mac Pro, and just wait until prices fall from other suppliers; of course that means putting up with 16gb of RAM, but with memory compression and 6gb of VRAM it may not be such a big deal.
Personally I'm not sure I'd buy RAM upgrades on the new Mac Pro, and just wait until prices fall from other suppliers; of course that means putting up with 16gb of RAM, but with memory compression and 6gb of VRAM it may not be such a big deal.
That's what I mean by "less than 1% of the world population"; Apple's target audience. Only large companies and the elite can afford such a computer by paying the full price with cash. And those that will get one will have to make monthly payments with interest on credit cards. Never pay interest on technology that will age.
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Because it's Apple. And because it looks like a trash can on a StarWars Destroyer Apple can markup the computer by $2000 on looks alone.