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Mac Pro Launching in December with Xeon Processors, Dual FirePro GPUs and PCIe Flash Storage
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Apple has specs up at http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/
D300:
1280 stream processors
256-bit-wide memory bus
160GB/s memory bandwidth
2 teraflops performance
I don't know how good that's considered. I think it beats the 330M in my MBP though.
I can run world of warcraft on my rMBP with ease at 2560*1600, 60 fps. It's slightly slower than my 5870 on my Mac Pro, but the game is perfectly playable at high settings. So the newer one will be probably even better.
Obviously a machine oriented to graphics professionals.
I'm kinda curious why, though. Those twin graphics cards are pricey, and having even a BTO option that eliminated them in favor of something cheaper would have made this more attractive for folks that needed the speed for other stuff.
And I had to think that tooling up an assembly plant in the US like that pictured in the promo video means quite an investment, not that Apple can't afford it.
It's an amazing machine. But I still wish I could get an Apple with some user-configurable bits for less.
I'm kinda curious why, though. Those twin graphics cards are pricey, and having even a BTO option that eliminated them in favor of something cheaper would have made this more attractive for folks that needed the speed for other stuff.
And I had to think that tooling up an assembly plant in the US like that pictured in the promo video means quite an investment, not that Apple can't afford it.
It's an amazing machine. But I still wish I could get an Apple with some user-configurable bits for less.
That puts the D700 faster than 7970, the fastest single consumer card sold by AMD and D500 slightly slower than 7870. So even D500 will be topnotch for gaming. D300 should suffice as well.
because I spent all that money on a beautiful machine I don't want a load of stuff attached to it.
because I spent all that money on a beautiful machine I don't want a load of stuff attached to it.
can I attach a new graphics card externally in a year or two?
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yeah I just mean the design and concept of the cylinder and fan, but I take your point.
I think it's great that they have a Quad option along with the entry price. The Quad machine is likely to best my current 2009 Mac Pro 8c 2.93Ghz by a small margin or at least match it. However what I would gain is the updated I/O without going iMac, faster RAM, the faster PCIe Flash Storage that makes me drool for the iMac as well, along with the professional and beefy GPU options that I can't get in the iMac.
The maxed out iMac with 32GB RAM from OWC instead of Apple = $3000.
Standard Quad Mac Pro with 12GB RAM, 256 PCIe Flash Storage, and 4GB worth of VRAM on Dual GPU's = $3100 + tax, etc.
Not too shabby if you ask me. In terms of comparable performance the Quad Mac Pro will probably give people close to top of the line previous generation Mac Pro performance (except maybe the 3.46Ghz 12-core owners) with next gen blazing fast GPU's and the updated I/O. That's worth the price of admission for lots of folks...it sure has me interested.
The maxed out iMac with 32GB RAM from OWC instead of Apple = $3000.
Standard Quad Mac Pro with 12GB RAM, 256 PCIe Flash Storage, and 4GB worth of VRAM on Dual GPU's = $3100 + tax, etc.
Not too shabby if you ask me. In terms of comparable performance the Quad Mac Pro will probably give people close to top of the line previous generation Mac Pro performance (except maybe the 3.46Ghz 12-core owners) with next gen blazing fast GPU's and the updated I/O. That's worth the price of admission for lots of folks...it sure has me interested.
I think it's great that they have a Quad option along with the entry price. The Quad machine is likely to best my current 2009 Mac Pro 8c 2.93Ghz by a small margin or at least match it. However what I would gain is the updated I/O without going iMac, faster RAM, the faster PCIe Flash Storage that makes me drool for the iMac as well, along with the professional and beefy GPU options that I can't get in the iMac.
The maxed out iMac with 32GB RAM from OWC instead of Apple = $3000.
Standard Quad Mac Pro with 12GB RAM, 256 PCIe Flash Storage, and 4GB worth of VRAM on Dual GPU's = $3100 + tax, etc.
Not too shabby if you ask me. In terms of comparable performance the Quad Mac Pro will probably give people close to top of the line previous generation Mac Pro performance (except maybe the 3.46Ghz 12-core owners) with next gen blazing fast GPU's and the updated I/O. That's worth the price of admission for lots of folks...it sure has me interested.
To be honest I'm most excited about the 1GB/sec SSD than anything else. That's gonna improve performance more than a CPU or GPU can. Think of how fast virtual memory's gonna work.
I like how Apple's endorsement guy for audio recording said, "It's quiet!" Please.
Just because they didn't have time to announce everything today doesn't mean it's not being done... don't jump to any conclusions yet. This was a massive release of updates and new products, and it was very impressive to see it all roll so smoothly.
You will probably have your optimized version of Logic before too long. But even without that, this new Mac Pro is TWICE as fast as the previous Mac Pro, so what's not to want? lol
Fw800
At that price, there should be FW800 ports. The back panel has room for two and they could have been put between the USB and Thunderbolt. My guess is at one point it had them but they were removed for the later designs. Notice the un-apple like empty space above the audio ports, these would be shifted up along with the USB to make room for the two FW800.
Macpro customers have lots of legacy FW800 drives, many old projects stored completely on them. USB3 might be great and able to handle the speeds, but to use the FW drives we already own, we need to buy an expensive thunderbolt solution, where the cost to integrate it into the case would have been less than $10, including the controller (or integrated controller with the USB).
At that price, there should be FW800 ports. The back panel has room for two and they could have been put between the USB and Thunderbolt. My guess is at one point it had them but they were removed for the later designs. Notice the un-apple like empty space above the audio ports, these would be shifted up along with the USB to make room for the two FW800.
Macpro customers have lots of legacy FW800 drives, many old projects stored completely on them. USB3 might be great and able to handle the speeds, but to use the FW drives we already own, we need to buy an expensive thunderbolt solution, where the cost to integrate it into the case would have been less than $10, including the controller (or integrated controller with the USB).
I like how Apple's endorsement guy for audio recording said, "It's quiet!" Please.
Sorry but I use my Mac Pro for some amateur audio work in my home studio and the constant fan noise is killing me. I was hoping for "silent", and they gave us ultra silent. It's not the only important thing for a studio but it's certainly a big sell. And I don't think we'll see much Open CL in Logic. I don't think Open CL is good for all types of calculations. Someone who knows better should enlighten us though.
Yeah, coming fall meant the announcement to announce the Mac Pro in December.
Yes yes yes yes. I have been waiting for them to announce or at least reference to a 4K display. It can drive 3 4k displays, but what do you recommend us buying Apple? Dell.
Been using a Dell 30WFP for years with a 2009 MacPro and its awesome.
Dude, it's a $30 cable.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=885718&Q=&is=REG&A=details
(Unless your drives are bus powered, then I would see the issue...)
Huge International Price Disparity
The cost of the base Mac Pro in the USA is $2,999, in AUS it's $3,999!
You can currently buy the AU$ for US97.1¢. The other new products have similar cost increases here. It would be cheaper to fly to the US to pick up one of these Macs. (found $862 return to Honalulu).
The cost of the base Mac Pro in the USA is $2,999, in AUS it's $3,999!
You can currently buy the AU$ for US97.1¢. The other new products have similar cost increases here. It would be cheaper to fly to the US to pick up one of these Macs. (found $862 return to Honalulu).
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In Turkey they are even more expensive than that. So whenever I buy Macs, I fly to USA, buy them and get back, even with the plane ticket and 2 days of hotel fees, it's cheaper. And it's a weekend getaway to Manhattan.
Why not
The same way I can't understand why anyone that does not work in construction would buy a F-150.
The same way I can't understand why anyone that does not work in construction would buy a F-150.
I don't consider $29 to be an expensive solution:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapter