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Mac Pro Supplies Tightening as WWDC Approaches
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On one hard, my old G5 was certainly "warmer" and very "high end", one the other hand, freezing tracks to get the latency down to under 8 minutes is a hassle.
Dreamy Wants:
1) Mac Branded Processor
That's right - Apple should license AMD's fusion processor design and build their own processors through their CPU team and manufacturing partners. Why?
In one word- OpenCl.
The upcoming AMD APU will have one teraflop of processing power on a chip. Because the bus speed between the gpu and cpu is faster than PCI, opencl code can run up to ten times faster on this chip than on a top of the line graphics card. Imagine Aperture, Final Cut, Logic, Adobe apps, and biotech software optimized for these chips.
Now, if Apple licenses the code, they can put two Kaveri cores on one die at 22mm. If they also have two chips per machine, you have over 4 teraflops of computing power in one computer.
As a creative business machine, there would be no equal.
This is possible now
1) Mac Branded Processor
That's right - Apple should license AMD's fusion processor design and build their own processors through their CPU team and manufacturing partners. Why?
In one word- OpenCl.
The upcoming AMD APU will have one teraflop of processing power on a chip. Because the bus speed between the gpu and cpu is faster than PCI, opencl code can run up to ten times faster on this chip than on a top of the line graphics card. Imagine Aperture, Final Cut, Logic, Adobe apps, and biotech software optimized for these chips.
Now, if Apple licenses the code, they can put two Kaveri cores on one die at 22mm. If they also have two chips per machine, you have over 4 teraflops of computing power in one computer.
As a creative business machine, there would be no equal.
This is possible now
I don't see what's wrong at all with the current form. I'm very happy with my 2008 model's design. It seems to dissipate heat really well, it's easy to open, and it's really expandable.
Just decrease the cost/power ratio, and give it brand new parts instead of outdated stuff. Make it compatible with all the normal PC GPUs if possible, even if it has to flash it when installed, so people aren't forced to use something else to get a good GPU. Don't fix things like design that aren't broken.
Just decrease the cost/power ratio, and give it brand new parts instead of outdated stuff. Make it compatible with all the normal PC GPUs if possible, even if it has to flash it when installed, so people aren't forced to use something else to get a good GPU. Don't fix things like design that aren't broken.
More Dreamy Wants:
2) Built in Auto Cluster
Go beyond XGrid, and make all of your pro applications fully symmetric. Now build your new power macs to automatically process in parallel with a single software switch. It's time for the world's easiest supercomputer.
2) Built in Auto Cluster
Go beyond XGrid, and make all of your pro applications fully symmetric. Now build your new power macs to automatically process in parallel with a single software switch. It's time for the world's easiest supercomputer.
I didn't realize how underpowered the Mac Pro has become until I realized my rMBP is pretty comparable to it.
Dreamy Want Number 3:
3) No Compromise Memory Path.
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3) No Compromise Memory Path.
Take your 2tb flash hard drive, and connect it to a PCIe 3.0 bus. This alone will double the speed over a standard flash drive. Then, install 2GB of RAM on the motherboard for caching purposes only. This will superboost hard drive speed even further.
By the way, I like the slimline idea. All I need is three slots, which is three more than an Imac. If I need more slots, then I just buy another slimline and get the power too.
3) No Compromise Memory Path.
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3) No Compromise Memory Path.
Take your 2tb flash hard drive, and connect it to a PCIe 3.0 bus. This alone will double the speed over a standard flash drive. Then, install 2GB of RAM on the motherboard for caching purposes only. This will superboost hard drive speed even further.
By the way, I like the slimline idea. All I need is three slots, which is three more than an Imac. If I need more slots, then I just buy another slimline and get the power too.
I don't know if I can ever bring myself to forgive them for killing the 17" MacBook Pro. What am I to do?
Buy an iMac, the portability is about the same
Honestly never saw why people wanted the surfboard.
The standard Xeon workstation for my group is a $1400 Dell with a 3.5 GHz quad Xeon, 16 GiB of ECC RAM, a 1 GiB Quadro, and 1 TB disk.
The only spec that it beats a MaxiMac on is price, but most of our users don't need dual-socket machines.
Kind of.
Apple used a 3.0 GHz Xeon bin of a high wattage older CPU. Since the cheese grater was designed for the nuclear fires of the PPC, it could handle the heat.
The other vendors said "no thanks" when Intel offered the high wattage 3.0 GHz CPUs, since Intel's roadmap clearly showed that the next generation medium wattage 3.0 GHz CPUs were just a couple of months away.
To Apple fans the spin is that Apple got something exclusive and early. To people familiar with the process - Apple took stuff that nobody else wanted.
Riiiight...
Unless it has 4 Titans and 4 12-core Xeons @ 5Ghz, has Blu-Ray, HBO and makes coffee for 3,000 USD after taxes... I don't see how the complaining will stop...
Yeah. Unless it squirts pink unicorns out its butt, these ingrates will just complain about anything Apple gives us, no matter how magical it is!
Hmmm...In the past apple has had access to the latest Xeons before they were released at large. Not saying they will ship before August though, only that it is a possibility.
How are you going to cool it. You realize all that space is useful for something, right?
So you mean to tell me that HP lost 3-4% of the PC market share and Dell lost 0.5-1% of the market share while Apple picked up and additional 0.5-1% of the PC market share because customers were leaving Mac and going to Dell & HP?!?
So I guess you don't really know anything about business and the type of customers each of these companies target.
We're talking workstations here. A very small segment of business for these companies. You clearly have no clue as to what you're talking about. You're fanboy colors are flying quite brightly.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the entertainment industry isn't driven by Apple computers. Hell, even Pixar hardly uses Apple hardware. While it was probably common to see Apple's presence in a lot of these shops back in the day, that is simply not the case now.
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Hmmm...In the past apple has had access to the latest Xeons before they were released at large. Not saying they will ship before August though, only that it is a possibility.
As pointed out earlier, that happened once and it was only by a few weeks. A 3-4 month lead time seems highly doubtful.
I'd honestly be surprised if the Mac Pro is addressed at all during WWDC. What would be the point of making any kind of announcement that far out? That's never been Apple's style. I really think this latest "rumor" is nothing. Product constraints happen with some frequency.
Yet. Who knows what will happen.
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Riiiight...
Unless it has 4 Titans and 4 12-core Xeons @ 5Ghz, has Blu-Ray, HBO and makes coffee for 3,000 USD after taxes... I don't see how the complaining will stop...
Anything over $1000 is too much Apple Tax. And it has to have three year free warranty with full phone and priority on site support and Apple Care for no more than $100 that adds another three years and damage coverage.
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Give me a 40 inch with HDMI and it could be my new tv. If it can do 4k and 3d even better
A novel idea!
Perhaps a new Mac Pro would be powerful enough to detect sarcasm on forums by projecting it magically from the screen! Maybe then some of the vitriol would dissipate.
Indeed, there is a lot at stake
I love it - some original ideas. Not likely to happen, though.
*visions of carrying my 24" iMac around under my arm*
I must admit that it's painful to feel the angst in these forums about the prospect of a new mac pro. I waited from the summer of '11 to early '13 and finally just caved and bought a 12-core Mac Pro. Granted, it doesn't have USB 3 (which I don't need), and the 5770k graphics card is old (though I have not even begun to tax it). On the other hand, I'll bet it lasts me 8-9 years (average life of my Mac towers in the past). Furthermore, upgrading my computer bit-by-bit is a perverse hobby of mine, from which I gain real enjoyment.
Perhaps a new Mac Pro would be powerful enough to detect sarcasm on forums by projecting it magically from the screen! Maybe then some of the vitriol would dissipate.
Indeed, there is a lot at stake
I love it - some original ideas. Not likely to happen, though.
Buy an iMac, the portability is about the same
*visions of carrying my 24" iMac around under my arm*
I must admit that it's painful to feel the angst in these forums about the prospect of a new mac pro. I waited from the summer of '11 to early '13 and finally just caved and bought a 12-core Mac Pro. Granted, it doesn't have USB 3 (which I don't need), and the 5770k graphics card is old (though I have not even begun to tax it). On the other hand, I'll bet it lasts me 8-9 years (average life of my Mac towers in the past). Furthermore, upgrading my computer bit-by-bit is a perverse hobby of mine, from which I gain real enjoyment.
