They do - it's called build to order. You pick the bits, Apple make a Mac Pro to your specification.
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They do - it's called build to order. You pick the bits, Apple make a Mac Pro to your specification.
Come back when you know what you are talking about.
Well the choice is clear.
Apple either kills MacPro line or make it more affordable. Regressien does wonders for business. Nobody can afford 5000 dollar PC it is a joke.
Interesting article on the lack of Mac Pro's at this site
http://www.peaceloveapplepie.com/ap...stomers-who-continue-wait-for-updated-models/
http://www.peaceloveapplepie.com/ap...stomers-who-continue-wait-for-updated-models/
Huh? There's always a need for such computers, especially by professionals. $5000 is nothing for something that makes you money every day. Even if you got a brand new Mac Pro every 2 years and threw the old one straight in the bin, it's still peanuts compared to your rent and other expenses.
There is also the new Apple Configurator for iOS devices! Be careful it will take over and whip any iOS device plugged in at any time... it's hot swappable!
Still no Mac Pro? 
I really love Apple's OS but Apple seems to not care about pro applications. I love Logic pro and I don't want an iMac. I would like to run it on a Mac pro with memory upgradability.
Should I learn a new DAW and run a windows machine? I really liked Apple products too.
Many keep saying the Mac Pro is dead and Apple will not answer the public on future of the Mac Pro. Should I really start looking else where for an expandable desktop computer?
I really love Apple's OS but Apple seems to not care about pro applications. I love Logic pro and I don't want an iMac. I would like to run it on a Mac pro with memory upgradability.
Should I learn a new DAW and run a windows machine? I really liked Apple products too.
Many keep saying the Mac Pro is dead and Apple will not answer the public on future of the Mac Pro. Should I really start looking else where for an expandable desktop computer?
After effects.
'nuff said.
Sure I can buy all new windows apps and start running windows, but there's a reason I ditched windows years ago.
No way the imac has enough memory and HP to run AE effectively
Not exactly. Build to order has only Apple certified gear. Some of us prefer to choose from a wider selection of drives, memory and graphics cards. Only in the aftermarket can you find serious performance gear. But you can't actually order a Mac custom - I want want with no RAM, no drive and no graphics card. Where do we find that in Apple's online store, or even in the ground-based stores. Only if you are ordering massive amounts of machines can you do this and not through ordinary channels.
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Excellent point. Not only is this a hot thread, many of the posts are heated.
Still no Mac Pro?
I really love Apple's OS but Apple seems to not care about pro applications. I love Logic pro and I don't want an iMac. I would like to run it on a Mac pro with memory upgradability.
Should I learn a new DAW and run a windows machine? I really liked Apple products too.
Many keep saying the Mac Pro is dead and Apple will not answer the public on future of the Mac Pro. Should I really start looking else where for an expandable desktop computer?
Apple obviously has seen the suggestions that MAc Pro is on the chopping block. The least they could do now that the cpu's have been released is either dump it and get it over with, or quell our fears with something . . . anything. I don't mind waiting a bit more if I know something is coming, but come on Apple . . I personally think this tells us that they absolutely don't care about this segment of their market and even if they release a new MP, which I do think they will, they have the mindset that they will feed us when they are good and ready and too bad if we don't like that. They are getting a bit too arrogant for their own good. They are flying high right now, but one day this may come back and bite them. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I know others feel the same and others who defend whatever big brother does will tell me to stop whining. Whatever . . .
Seems like one of those threads where someone eventually writes that they emailed Steve Jobs (or now Tim Cook) an articulate message about their concerns about the Mac Pro and Steve Jobs would write back a short "Hang in there" or "Working on it" or something.
We may see this cycle for all their OSx devices, since Apple has made it clear it is a post-PC world.
They can witter on all you like about Post-PC but I'm not buying it. Not missing my iPad which is out on permanent loan.
I think it is a subtle way of saying your OSx devices will become iOS devices. I expect there will be some consolidation in the computer lines along the way.
Yup. I hit up Tim a while back. I got passed on to a sales lady who tried to sell me a current Mac Pro.
Apple obviously has seen the suggestions that MAc Pro is on the chopping block. The least they could do now that the cpu's have been released is either dump it and get it over with, or quell our fears with something . . . anything. I don't mind waiting a bit more if I know something is coming, but come on Apple . . I personally think this tells us that they absolutely don't care about this segment of their market and even if they release a new MP, which I do think they will, they have the mindset that they will feed us when they are good and ready and too bad if we don't like that. They are getting a bit too arrogant for their own good. They are flying high right now, but one day this may come back and bite them. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I know others feel the same and others who defend whatever big brother does will tell me to stop whining. Whatever . . .
I'm looking at the mac pros noted in your signature. It seems that you're going for machines that are clocked as high as possible rather than absolute maximum core count. There really aren't many new systems released with these cpus yet. I'm not sure if any are currently shipping. I know a couple brands have them listed, but I don't know if they're shipping immediately. The last thing will most likely be gpus with stable drivers shipping in volume. I would guess we'll see something by summer, but I'm not 100% sure. On a couple occasions Apple's shipping dates have been incredibly aggressive relative to other oems when they decide to launch an update (as they've skipped some hardware in the past too). I wouldn't assign it a death certificate yet.
Have software updates since that one came out been making it feel sluggish, or is it a case of where you run some things locally that would be run off a server in a larger environment? Just wondering...
Just because you can't doesn't mean nobody can't.
Six new 12 core Mac Pros were fitted in a CFD lab only a month ago...
A lot of narrow views of the world in this thread :/
My workflow seems to benefit form higher clock speeds and lots of memory. That said, I don't see downgrading to less than 6 cores. It's not sluggish, (well my 2008 one is a bit in comparison) I am just ready for the next upgrade. I used to be a avid PC overclocker back in the day. Ran 24/7 at 4 ghz. Trouble was I was upgrading at least every six months. Got to be ridiculous, but once every 2 years is a long time now. With me it's not so much what I need as what I want. I doubt Apple cares either way.
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Would it really kill them to do this? Would it be the end of ipad? Would all Apple's secrets fly out the door? Just stubbornness.
That's really quite common, especially the ram part. In many cases I used to heavily customize settings just to conserve bits of ram when applications were stuck with 32 bit builds. It's nice not having to rely on exotic workarounds.
It's not necessarily the price that makes such a thing a low volume item. Obviously it requires a buyer that can justify the expense, but their workload also needs to favor cores over clock speed. Most users work with a variety of applications. If the price seems insane, you can probably get away with less than a 12 core. It's more expensive than a Windows box in many configurations, but the 12 core isn't as much above the other side as you might think even after matching warranties and other details where appropriate. By the way, they were super competitive on pricing the first couple mac pro generations. I wish that was still the case, but it's only certain configurations that are really bad in that regard.
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I need as much power as possible, if apple stop making mac pro's I will be gutted. £5000 is a lot for a computer but it earns me that back in less than a month. I do animation using After Effects and Cinema, I know people like me are a small percentage of the market and there are lots of arguments for and against continuing the mac pro's. But really hoping they keep something that is powerful.
So come on apple, bring out the beasts!
So come on apple, bring out the beasts!
What is crystal clear is that Apple has zero interest in making any timely announcements or imminent releases of the Mac Pro. They march to their own beat and it seems that we have absolutely nothing to say about it. I still do expect we will see one, just not until they get around to it. I suspect a month or two more of silent waiting.
In any case, Intel seems to be a big part of the ongoing problem here:
"While Xeon used to be from the same generation than desktop CPUs, we now have one generation difference, and this might be an issue on the long-term."
In any case, Intel seems to be a big part of the ongoing problem here:
"While Xeon used to be from the same generation than desktop CPUs, we now have one generation difference, and this might be an issue on the long-term."
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Faster speeds mean faster rendering time. As an amateur videographer, I need the Mac Pro to actually have fun with terabytes of footage that is accumulating and not to have to wait around all the time for things to render. Other machines can't hold all the footage and require tons of waiting time when you start learning editing. This can apply to home videos as much as professional edits. It's also nice to have a megafast machine with tons of storage space for all your home media files.
Non-pro home users have good reason to have a high-powered tower as their media base, from which they can operate their Apple ecosystem. With the right sort of marketing, Apple could convince every homeowner that he or she needs a 16-core hub to manage their household, along with all their iToys, in a post-PC world.
Maybe Tim has his spam filter on overdrive and Apple isn't getting enough product feedback on the Mac Pro.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
Non-pro home users have good reason to have a high-powered tower as their media base, from which they can operate their Apple ecosystem. With the right sort of marketing, Apple could convince every homeowner that he or she needs a 16-core hub to manage their household, along with all their iToys, in a post-PC world.
Maybe Tim has his spam filter on overdrive and Apple isn't getting enough product feedback on the Mac Pro.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
Totally agree...
Using a Mac Pro is just like driving an exotic sport car!
I leave Feedback and also email Tim at least 2-3 a week...
BTW a very well known Apple tech journalism replied to my request concerning the too long delay for the Pro update....
He replied to me : ' I'll bet the refresh is imminent"
Xserve
Apple killed the Xserve, it was never quite right after the G4, and it was basically a more expensive odd form-factor version of the Mac Pro.
HP are killing off all the hardware divisions, apple currently run HP servers to power the iTunes store and cloud services. Apple are going to be stepping up the cloud approach, especially considering it's all UNIX and Mach.
If apple do a new form factor Mac Pro, it'll be something they've cooked up in one of their data centers, and have a 19 inch format. I doubt it'll be this generation, but you never know.
In that case, I'd guess it would have no optical drives at all, those could be added in an external box, and possibly no PCI slots but instead thunderbolt chassis units. The rack ears could be removable, allowing the machine to be stood up on end to form a tower.
There would also be a mac-mini based blade server chassis.
So basically think a Mac Mini on steroids with rack ears and 4 thunderbolt ports.
Apple killed the Xserve, it was never quite right after the G4, and it was basically a more expensive odd form-factor version of the Mac Pro.
HP are killing off all the hardware divisions, apple currently run HP servers to power the iTunes store and cloud services. Apple are going to be stepping up the cloud approach, especially considering it's all UNIX and Mach.
If apple do a new form factor Mac Pro, it'll be something they've cooked up in one of their data centers, and have a 19 inch format. I doubt it'll be this generation, but you never know.
In that case, I'd guess it would have no optical drives at all, those could be added in an external box, and possibly no PCI slots but instead thunderbolt chassis units. The rack ears could be removable, allowing the machine to be stood up on end to form a tower.
There would also be a mac-mini based blade server chassis.
So basically think a Mac Mini on steroids with rack ears and 4 thunderbolt ports.