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Mac Pro Update Now Possible with New Xeon E5 Chips Next Week
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The one in January looked like that. The one in June looked like this:
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Should've waited for the G5.
Yeah, that look is so 20th century. Time to ditch the "cheese grater" and either shrink it quite a bit or add expandibility to match other Maxi-Towers.
Ah, ok, ta. Yeah I got that one second-hand 'cause it was supposed to be able to run MacOS9 natively, but I could never get sound working in native Classic for some reason. No sound output devices found.The one in January looked like that. The one in June looked like this: {snip image}
Should've waited for the G5.
I don't mind the look of those cheese-grater Power Macs / Mac Pros. Perhaps just 'cause I want a Mac Pro (but can't justify the cost).
I got mine in November 2003 and after removing some dust it looks just like iEdd's image. Not sure if the DVD-player works any more and it has got rather slow running Word, Safari and other standard programs. Maybe time to upgrade from 1GB to 2GB RAM? Is it possible to put more RAM in there?
...Oh, yes, the topic was the new Mac Pro...
...Oh, yes, the topic was the new Mac Pro...
Here in The Netherlands and some other European countries the delivery dates are all slipping to 3-4 days, hope that's a good sign!
Really need a fullycharged MacPro update over here
Really need a fullycharged MacPro update over here
the clear cycle now is the announcement of the Mac OS - it's always coupled with machine updates. so Mountain Lion is the date to watch for - we'll get nothing till then. if we're lucky we'll get new chips/graphics + TB, heck it probably wont even be a press release - just a silent update to the online store. nope, you know the biggest announcement will be the new macbook air
I do not think they will wait for ML now. The updates across the line are overdue due to Intel mostly.
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People who complain about the cheese grater don't seem to realize it's the best way to get air free flowing in and out of there.
Any airflow engineer will tell you that lots of tiny holes are not as good as fewer, larger holes with the same cm² of openings.
Even a standard window screen has a lot of resistance to airflow.
Starting to loose my patience with Apple. Been waiting for over a year now for a serious update to the Pro (as Aiden said it : last update was just a processor bump), not all of it Apple's fault of course (Intel was late too), but hey, we're a month into E5 now and 3 weeks into Keppler: where is that damned machine ?
Am getting a sample rendering machine (e5 based) from my local PC shop tomorrow to try out, would hate to drop OSX, but my patience is wearing really tin, and I have no doubt I'll like the PC for its performance as well. On top, as many said before, if I go the Windows way, might as well drop the rest of the Apple ecosystem too...
Am getting a sample rendering machine (e5 based) from my local PC shop tomorrow to try out, would hate to drop OSX, but my patience is wearing really tin, and I have no doubt I'll like the PC for its performance as well. On top, as many said before, if I go the Windows way, might as well drop the rest of the Apple ecosystem too...
Crikey, sounds like it's all coming to an end for you. Let me get the first bit out the way, I am not a hardcore Apple lover!
Designing a new product, that needs to supersede it's previous near perfect design, is going to be bloody hard. I am sure they have been designing the new case (if one at all) for many years.
It's rather clear, that if you're hobby/business requires for you to have some additional horsepower (i.e you're not making as much money as you should be on an hourly rate because your machine isn't as quick as other specs on Windows) and the current MacPro with the appropriate setup for you cannot meet your needs (i.e not worth upgrading from your current setup), then by all means move to a Windows based platform.
If that doesn't work, then move back to mac.
I don't know your business requirements, so I cannot say that the current MacPro will meet your needs or not, but I doubt that for the majority of users the "hardware" might not meet your requirements. In fact, the majority* (not all) of the SW currently on the market, actually works better on a SP rather than a DP, hence why the 3.33 hex is the sweet spot for a lot of users (limitations on RAM though compared to the DP version, can cause problems for some)
Personally, I was a bit gutted the previous revision wasn't a change, but a speed bump, I was rather disappointed with the 2010 DP models I bought, they were much louder than the 2009 versions, speed bump was good but not amazing and the premium for the "upgrade" was quite a lot.
I really don't know and no Joe Bloggs does, if there will be a new MacPro, but I suggest you just hold tight, or buy yourself a Windows machine and sell it when the new MacPro comes out (if!!) and lose a large amount of money from it's resale.
I work in a Windows environment, Servers and all that sort of stuff, use Windows 7 at work and actually find it rather good. There are bits I really like about OSX and bits I really like about Windows 7, but don't love either. I do however, really like the Mac Engineering hardware wise and hence why I will always own them. The new MacPro if it ever comes, will be my hardcore desktop, for my virtual networks, using ESXi and what ever other tools. Sure, I could get a HP or Dell beast, but the price is the same if not, more, for the same spec and not nearly as nice next to my 30" ACD in my office
Apologies for the ranting, but either way, best of luck
It is sufficient for the task. Hop on over to overclock.net where the corsair case designer chats on the forums. He'll tell you the mac pro case is held as the golden standard when it comes to workmanship and aesthetic. It hasn't changed because it doesn't need to.
And this is the point, and a very good one at that.
Going off tangent here, but this is one of the reasons why so many people where upset when the 4s came out. Because it didn't look any different! Yet the whole interior of the phone had been redesigned, it was all* based on looks and not functionality, these people aren't the real users who appreciate "Apple's engineering".
Such people want things to look different on every revision and sadly, these great bits of engineering such as the iPhone/iPad and so on, are becoming fashion accessories
the only* reason why most people want it to look like a newer version is so they can show off........(this is my opinion only, I do realise I am most likely going to get grilled for this
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Crikey, sounds like it's all coming to an end for you. Let me get the first bit out the way, I am not a hardcore Apple lover!
Designing a new product, that needs to supersede it's previous near perfect design, is going to be bloody hard. I am sure they have been designing the new case (if one at all) for many years.
It's rather clear, that if you're hobby/business requires for you to have some additional horsepower (i.e you're not making as much money as you should be on an hourly rate because your machine isn't as quick as other specs on Windows) and the current MacPro with the appropriate setup for you cannot meet your needs (i.e not worth upgrading from your current setup), then by all means move to a Windows based platform.
If that doesn't work, then move back to mac.
I don't know your business requirements, so I cannot say that the current MacPro will meet your needs or not, but I doubt that for the majority of users the "hardware" might not meet your requirements. In fact, the majority* (not all) of the SW currently on the market, actually works better on a SP rather than a DP, hence why the 3.33 hex is the sweet spot for a lot of users (limitations on RAM though compared to the DP version, can cause problems for some)
Personally, I was a bit gutted the previous revision wasn't a change, but a speed bump, I was rather disappointed with the 2010 DP models I bought, they were much louder than the 2009 versions, speed bump was good but not amazing and the premium for the "upgrade" was quite a lot.
I really don't know and no Joe Bloggs does, if there will be a new MacPro, but I suggest you just hold tight, or buy yourself a Windows machine and sell it when the new MacPro comes out (if!!) and lose a large amount of money from it's resale.
I work in a Windows environment, Servers and all that sort of stuff, use Windows 7 at work and actually find it rather good. There are bits I really like about OSX and bits I really like about Windows 7, but don't love either. I do however, really like the Mac Engineering hardware wise and hence why I will always own them. The new MacPro if it ever comes, will be my hardcore desktop, for my virtual networks, using ESXi and what ever other tools. Sure, I could get a HP or Dell beast, but the price is the same if not, more, for the same spec and not nearly as nice next to my 30" ACD in my office
Apologies for the ranting, but either way, best of luck
I actually appreciate your rant
As for my needs, we have 6 Mac Pro CAD stations here, 2 of them have really grown into "render stations" lately. All of them are 2008 8-cores (2.8-3.2Ghz). There are 2 problems : the 2008 Pro's are underperforming considerably when it comes to single threaded performance, for those 4 MP's a hex-core upgrade would be perfect, getting maximum single threaded performance is what they need anyway, with more occasional multi-core use. However, I refuse to buy old tech now, "had I known" the upgrade cycle would take this long, I would've ordered a year ago, but I honestly expected the E5 to come out in 2011, hence I waited. For the render stations things are more in the middle, as an upgrade to a 12-core would probably be sufficient for quite a long time, and these machines would literally pay for themselves. I waited too long to upgrade these, I see that now, but again, I really expected the SB-Mac Pro's a lot sooner.
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I actually appreciate your rant
As for my needs, we have 6 Mac Pro CAD stations here, 2 of them have really grown into "render stations" lately. All of them are 2008 8-cores (2.8-3.2Ghz). There are 2 problems : the 2008 Pro's are underperforming considerably when it comes to single threaded performance, for those 4 MP's a hex-core upgrade would be perfect, getting maximum single threaded performance is what they need anyway, with more occasional multi-core use. However, I refuse to buy old tech now, "had I known" the upgrade cycle would take this long, I would've ordered a year ago, but I honestly expected the E5 to come out in 2011, hence I waited. For the render stations things are more in the middle, as an upgrade to a 12-core would probably be sufficient for quite a long time, and these machines would literally pay for themselves. I waited too long to upgrade these, I see that now, but again, I really expected the SB-Mac Pro's a lot sooner.
I was expecting (considering how a lot of people are defensive on here) for you to completely ruin me, but yet I come to a pleasant reply, thanks very much
I see where you are coming from and totally understand your predicament, I don't use my equipment to the requirements that you do (different skill set) but it seems like it's not letting your business grow.
Your in the limbo stage where if you don't upgrade, you won't get the benefits over the 2008 models however, as you have quite rightly stated, you refuse to buy old tech, specially as there may be something around the corner, but you don't know when.
The alternative is Windows, but it's a big change HW/SW/Licensing.
The machines that are slowing down, depending on current config, have you looked at rebuilding them, using an SSD to increase general performance or is it simply that you're saturating their performance, full stop?
Anyhow, I would love to see a new MacPro, but this is growing slimmer by the day.
It would be great if they could let us know either way.........