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Apple is really ticking me off right about now by their silence on this. They have have wind of at least the frustration we feel about the lack of any info. I find it to be a bit of a snub.

Agreed! Do they not monitor these forums? I mean I follow forums all over the place (mostly quietly) and I hear the same things everywhere... people are getting irate over all this secret secret stuff WE NEED TO KNOW (((SOMETHING!!!)))) after all WE are the people that are keeping their rear ends in those private jets and Mercedes taking them to their mansions!!!! Yes including people like me who are even first time Mac buyers!!! HEY APPLE!!! WE HAVE $$$MONEY$$$ LOTS OF IT!!! we want to give it to YOU! What do you not understand about this??? or DO YOU EVEN CARE! Oh and you can forget FORCING us to buy that old outdated stock! I read about people giving up and going to a PC every day and it's getting more and more frequent (((HELLOOO))) ARE YOU IN THERE???? :mad:

OK I feel better now....
 
"Next week" never comes

Every time I see this thread bumped I look at the title

Mac Pro Update Now Possible with New Xeon E5 Chips Next Week

and chuckle at the thought that it's never "next week", or even "tomorrow".

In 24 hours, it will be today - and "tomorrow" will still be 24 hours (or so) away. In 7 days it will be "this week", and "next week" will still be 7 days away.

Somewhat appropriate for people waiting for a Mac Pro upgrade (or news of its death).

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If there's not a new update by the time Mountain Lion is released then there's probably good reason to be concerned. Also, it seems to me that apple doesn't typically wait this long to anounce an "end of life" to one of it's products. This gives me hope.

And didn't a version of thunderbolt that was mac pro suitable just recently get released?

In all reality Apple probably didnt have all the hardware they wanted for an update until now. So we have a perfect storm now for an amazing update. I think its probably prudent of Apple to wait for Mountain Lion to be released and voila! We can all stop worrying.

Thats my deadline anyway, the hp z800 looks pretty nice :rolleyes:
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it would be possible for Apple to provide a suped up iMac option with dual 8-core Sandy bridge processors, relying on Thunderbolt for hard disk needs? Could the all-in-one design handle that kind of processor? I'm just wondering, if the Mac Pro is dead, what options a video editor is likely to face in an iMac lineup.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it would be possible for Apple to provide a suped up iMac option with dual 8-core Sandy bridge processors, relying on Thunderbolt for hard disk needs? Could the all-in-one design handle that kind of processor? I'm just wondering, if the Mac Pro is dead, what options a video editor is likely to face in an iMac lineup.

I guess it will melt ;) But also the ram is quite important, I've got a 2008 mac pro with 28gb of ram and Final Cut Pro X (FCPX) uses more than 22gb of it on a project, and still a lot of waiting for rendertasks, should be very hard to put all that in a little box i think... the ram modules alone in the mac pro is as big as a mac mini....
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it would be possible for Apple to provide a suped up iMac option with dual 8-core Sandy bridge processors

Only Xeon based processors can be used in a dual processor configuration. So you'd have to stick Xeon processors in an iMac.

What would be the point ?
 
We don't know what Apple has (or doesn't have) up their sleeves, but I would like to assume that if they drop the MP, they would at least attempt to offer some other product that was beefed up a bit over their current top models. It is hard to see how this could be done without heat, size and other issues, but you have to think they would at least try to address this dropped segment in some way, not that you wouldn't still have some very unhappy campers.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it would be possible for Apple to provide a suped up iMac option with dual 8-core Sandy bridge processors, relying on Thunderbolt for hard disk needs? Could the all-in-one design handle that kind of processor?

Nope.
 
We should probably start focusing on when the imac announcement will come since it is looking more and more like the MP isn't. :(
 
We should probably start focusing on when the imac announcement will come since it is looking more and more like the MP isn't. :(

Which is quite strange considering the Sandy Bridge-E based Xeons came out earlier by a few weeks than the Ivy Bridge based processors.

If anything, I'd expect the Mac Pro updates before or at least, at the same time as the iMac updates.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if it would be possible for Apple to provide a suped up iMac option with dual 8-core Sandy bridge processors, relying on Thunderbolt for hard disk needs? Could the all-in-one design handle that kind of processor? I'm just wondering, if the Mac Pro is dead, what options a video editor is likely to face in an iMac lineup.

The cpus used in the mac pro are a different socket type. I don't see Apple adding another board design to the imac to address this. Getting the available configurations and features just right along with addressing heat concerns would be a very big engineering project. Now you could eventually see these things packed into higher densities. I just don't think it'll happen with the current hardware and design constraints.

Which is quite strange considering the Sandy Bridge-E based Xeons came out earlier by a few weeks than the Ivy Bridge based processors.

If anything, I'd expect the Mac Pro updates before or at least, at the same time as the iMac updates.

I kind of wonder how fast they started shipping. A couple people have mentioned gpu drivers that have shown up in Mountain Lion. It wouldn't surprise me to see them skip Lion completely on a lower volume line.
 
I kind of wonder how fast they started shipping. A couple people have mentioned gpu drivers that have shown up in Mountain Lion. It wouldn't surprise me to see them skip Lion completely on a lower volume line.

The Mac Pro wouldn't have that issue though, since it uses external GPUs. Wasn't there a thread a couple of months ago about ATI/nVidia drivers in Lion ?
 
The Mac Pro wouldn't have that issue though, since it uses external GPUs. Wasn't there a thread a couple of months ago about ATI/nVidia drivers in Lion ?

I'm not sure. It's possible I could have missed it.
 
I'm not sure. It's possible I could have missed it.

Nvidia 5XX and ATI 6XXX cards work in OS X Lion these days. In Nvidia's case, you need to download a driver from their site. You don't get EFI boot screens but apart from that they seem pretty solid.
 
The cpus used in the mac pro are a different socket type. I don't see Apple adding another board design to the imac to address this. Getting the available configurations and features just right along with addressing heat concerns would be a very big engineering project. Now you could eventually see these things packed into higher densities. I just don't think it'll happen with the current hardware and design constraints.

Thanks for the all tech info posts...

It looks like Dell is making an aggressive marketing pitch toward creative professionals with the new Precision series. If Apple drops the Mac Pro product line, they create a fairly large opening for companies like Dell and HP to seize the cool factor for Windows-based platforms at film and music festivals, a bad long-term strategy in my opinion.

But it seems HP is the only company shipping the 16-core work stations as of now, with Dell set to ship in May. So there is still time for Apple to claim superiority in the pro/high-end indie amateur market (assuming they care). I think the Osborne Effect is pretty much a non factor at this point for Mac Pros - I can't imagine anyone would buy it unless they absolutely must - and Apple is definitely treating its higher end customers like garbage by letting this guessing game go on so long.

Not a great moment to be in the market for a high-end workstation, but as a guy who has bought dozens of Apple products and convinced at least 15-20 friends to switch to Apple, I am hoping they don't forget where they came from.
 
Thanks for the all tech info posts...

It looks like Dell is making an aggressive marketing pitch toward creative professionals with the new Precision series. If Apple drops the Mac Pro product line, they create a fairly large opening for companies like Dell and HP to seize the cool factor for Windows-based platforms at film and music festivals, a bad long-term strategy in my opinion.

But it seems HP is the only company shipping the 16-core work stations as of now, with Dell set to ship in May. So there is still time for Apple to claim superiority in the pro/high-end indie amateur market (assuming they care). I think the Osborne Effect is pretty much a non factor at this point for Mac Pros - I can't imagine anyone would buy it unless they absolutely must - and Apple is definitely treating its higher end customers like garbage by letting this guessing game go on so long.

Not a great moment to be in the market for a high-end workstation, but as a guy who has bought dozens of Apple products and convinced at least 15-20 friends to switch to Apple, I am hoping they don't forget where they came from.



they iForgot a long time ago. This is no way to treat life long clients. That condescending attitude they portray in their MAC vs PC commercials has shifted towards their own high end users. Unless they invent the same power into the size of the mac cube than a simple refresh will not satisfy most of us. PC has never been so interesting to me before.
 
I really think we are to the point that we should make an online petition with commitments from everyone to buy if you sign it. There has to be a huge pent up demand for us Mac Pro 2008 model owners... me one of them.

My damn Imac at home smokes my MP and the only reason I don't switch to Imac for work is the stupid glossy screen and the inabilty to throw in 16tb of drives without losing my shirt buying thunderbolt drives.

CMON PLEASE APPLE!!

I'm currently waiting on all the new models to come out to buy each one, mac mini, Imac, and I need two Mac Pros...
 
I really think we are to the point that we should make an online petition with commitments from everyone to buy if you sign it. There has to be a huge pent up demand for us Mac Pro 2008 model owners... me one of them.

My damn Imac at home smokes my MP and the only reason I don't switch to Imac for work is the stupid glossy screen and the inabilty to throw in 16tb of drives without losing my shirt buying thunderbolt drives.

CMON PLEASE APPLE!!

I'm currently waiting on all the new models to come out to buy each one, mac mini, Imac, and I need two Mac Pros...

I would sign it. Apple seems to have been possessed by demons, big company run by MBAs now. And to think where all this started, where's the chick with the sledgehammer now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8
 
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