Well Tim wants more secrecy and more facebook integration. Ok Tim, start here:
http://www.facebook.com/MacProsPlease
http://www.facebook.com/MacProsPlease
I kind of hope you're trolling. If you're so dim as to figure that computing has reached an absolute ceiling, I'm not sure what to say to you. At one point 32MB of ram was a lot, and a 1GB hard drive required a 3U form factor. Not being able to see past your own needs shows nothing more than a lack of insight.
You missed the point. My point is the iMac and MacBook Pros are capable of punching so much power now that the monster trucks (Mac Pro) are quite unnecessary. I'm not saying we've reached the ceiling in computing power. I'm saying the work will now focus on packing the power computer users need into smaller more elegant devices.
I'm afraid this doesn't get around the issue of required power for high-end projects requires a lot more power than the iMac can offer.
You are definitely right in the fact that iMacs are punching much more power, however the professional production industry requires industrial power and not prosumer power even if you could class an iMac as a prosumer device.
In my opinion I look it as a separate class and can't fairly be viewed on the same platform. iMacs are great, MacPros are great but you don't cut down a forest with a hand saw that is great for cutting things little things here and there, you mow it down with a bulldozer made for mowing down forests.
The gross generalization here is that the "production industry" is all uniformly increasing their workload requirements. Even though the computers are getting faster the workload is growing at an even higher rate than "Moorse's Law" (and other hardware/software growth factors) can keep up.
The huge flaw in this analogy is that "power" is not inherent to size. Yoda was not the weakest Jedi master because he was the shortest.
You missed the point. My point is the iMac and MacBook Pros are capable of punching so much power now that the monster trucks (Mac Pro) are quite unnecessary. I'm not saying we've reached the ceiling in computing power. I'm saying the work will now focus on packing the power computer users need into smaller more elegant devices.
You missed the point. My point is the iMac and MacBook Pros are capable of punching so much power now that the monster trucks (Mac Pro) are quite unnecessary. I'm not saying we've reached the ceiling in computing power. I'm saying the work will now focus on packing the power computer users need into smaller more elegant devices.
You're being incredibly unimaginative here. No one cares about elegance if they're working on a job.
Pfft. 24V? Seriously? If it's not 3-phase mains powered don't even bother. You're trying to pretend you know the business, but you call a 24V thing a 'Pro' device?...Anyone who claims ... they can't do their job without at least a 24-volt hammer drill, are either too ignorant ... or are stodgy dinosaurs.
Well, at least Jim Dairymple from The Loop says there is "no chance" that the Mac Pro will be discontinued (as reported by AI). He's been a reliable source in the past. I hope he knows what he speaks of now.
I'm disappointed Apple is going to continue wasting time on this high-end stuff.
You simply don't have a clue.
Irrespective of the MP being dead or not, how you can simply state that all you need is x.
No one knows better (within reason) the user as to what they need.
However, the iMac is nice and it's an excellent tool, depending on what your user requirements.
I personally love the amount you can configure the MP and also, dual same monitors, something that is quite hard and expensive to achieve with an iMac.
Anyhow, let's hope we are not all still asking if it's dead or not, same time, next year!
I'm disappointed Apple is going to continue wasting time on this high-end stuff. But I guess I can be happy for those of you who think you still need a monster truck as your work computer.![]()
Time is money and waiting for a computer to finish a task costs me time, which in turn costs me money. I am happy to pay more for a computer that saves me time. Just because you don't need a high performance computer doesn't mean people who do only think they do.
I'm always skeptical of people who say they need it. I had some idiot developer tell me they needed a Mac Pro, a real computer, for their work. Then one day I watched what he was doing for a living: coding PHP applications in BBEdit and pushing their work using git or transmit when straight to server.
Graphics and video editing (final cut, premiere pro) is easily possible on the latest models of iMac and MBP. I'm sure there are people who legitimately need all the power of the MP and will benefit from the next speed bump. But I think that group of people is growing smaller by the year.
Originally Posted by AidenShaw
... why not give Apple OSX power users the option to use Apple-approved third party systems?
Then you loose the tight integration of OS and machine, which is a large part of the Mac advantage.
I'm always skeptical of people who say they need it. I had some idiot developer tell me they needed a Mac Pro, a real computer, for their work. Then one day I watched what he was doing for a living: coding PHP applications in BBEdit and pushing their work using git or transmit when straight to server.
Graphics and video editing (final cut, premiere pro) is easily possible on the latest models of iMac and MBP. I'm sure there are people who legitimately need all the power of the MP and will benefit from the next speed bump. But I think that group of people is growing smaller by the year.
Graphics and video editing (final cut, premiere pro) is easily possible on the latest models of iMac and MBP.
I'm always skeptical of people who say they need it. .
I'm disappointed Apple is going to continue wasting time on this high-end stuff. But I guess I can be happy for those of you who think you still need a monster truck as your work computer.![]()
Need, want, whatever. A sale is a sale. What the heck do you care? You should only speak for yourself. I need because I want, period, end of sentence, if anyone must know!
Why should you care? Just because you don't need it, there is no need to knock those who do, and they do, despite your unwillingness as someone who clearly knows nothing about media heavy video and graphics editing to acknowledge the views of those who do it for a living, and who produce much of the media you might watch on your iToys. We can all switch to Windows, but that doesn't mean we don't need the machines.
How strange is it that there is actually a small contingent of people actually wishing for the demise of the Mac Pro? Where do these people come from?