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Mac Pro Update Now Possible with New Xeon E5 Chips Next Week

i'm hoping so much for a new MacPro (as i'm since 4 years a very satisfied MacPro 2008 user)

but i have to admit that i'm really worried if Apple continues the productline ... if you look at their current product-portfolio the Macpro seems a bit not-fitting

however i keep my fingers crossed that they'll update my beloved machine and have the money ready
 
Best News ever!

Desperate for a new Mac Pro... Just sold my 3.33 16gb...
Dont understand why Apple would want to kill the MP line... Even if they dont sell as many... I need this summum desktop even if it's just to brag about ;)
I have sold ,last year, my iMac 27 because i want more.. More drive, more possibility with PCIe.... More everything...
Give my Sata 3.0 6G and thunderbolt plz...
Gimme more core..more speed, more Ram...gimme gimme gimme!
It's for to play around the ipad browsing the internet but if i need to work....Mac Pro all the way!!:D
 
Chupa Chupa said:
MR doesn't have any inside info, they are just assuming b/c there always has been an update. But everything comes to an end at some point.
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Yeah, I know. I was mostly joking. :)

I do think they will continue releasing Mac Pros though. There are still many people using them. And clearly there are some people waiting to upgrade.
 
Hey come on people... It's only been over a year and a half since the mild update (CPU and GPU upgrade) last seen for the Mac Pros... /rant

There are plenty of professional film editors, motion graphic designers, and 3D designers that need the power and customizability of the Mac Pro. Let's hope that Apple utilizes this and actually updates the Mac Pros with more than a minor speed upgrade...let's do this!!!
 
Rot'nApple said:
Again, it's nice that you have the smarts and capabilities to enhance your MacPro... Me?! I'd just break something if I ever tried to enhance. So, I'm usually content with the offerings out there, as I bet most people are who are in Best Buy to buy their iMacs so as to own a computer to do the lesser things in the first place, are too!
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Nah, you could upgrade it. The Mac Pro is wonderfully designed. No cables or wires - just plug and play hard drives.

If you know how to use a screwdriver, you can upgrade a Mac Pro! :)


Oh, and on the pro versus "itoys" - pros use idevices, too!
 
Can I just get a Mac Pro priced like an i7 iMac without the 27" screen?
Seriously. Take $1000 off for the 27" screen and sell me a brand new quad Mac Pro for $1200.
 
mysticalos said:
How is this even remotely a good thing? do we really want a mac pro refresh with this and NOT ivy bridge? that's a huge stab in my opinion, because they would not refresh with this and then again with ivy bridge in 3 months, it'd be either or, and it better be ivy bridge. because if we get a refresh of a revised LAST gen cpu, the see the rest of the macs get ivy bridge, it's just going to make me mad, because i've been waiting for a mac pro refresh for a new mac. But THIS is not what i'm waiting for.
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Well for one thing the Mac Pro has always been about dual sockets, i.e. two physical CPUs. The Xeon E5 is the newest Intel chip that can run in a pair - there won't be a dual-capable Ivy Bridge Xeon chip until at least 2013. It's not last gen, this is the latest thing!
 
mysticalos said:
How is this even remotely a good thing? do we really want a mac pro refresh with this and NOT ivy bridge? that's a huge stab in my opinion, because they would not refresh with this and then again with ivy bridge in 3 months, it'd be either or, and it better be ivy bridge. because if we get a refresh of a revised LAST gen cpu, the see the rest of the macs get ivy bridge, it's just going to make me mad, because i've been waiting for a mac pro refresh for a new mac. But THIS is not what i'm waiting for.
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These are not last gen CPU's. Yes they are based on the Sandy Bridge architecture, but these Xeons are brand new. While I have no idea why it took Intel this long to release the SNB Xeons, these are as up to date as you can get for any workstation. Ivy Bridge is slated for sometime in the middle of this year, yes. But that does not include workstation and server class dual-socketable CPU's aka Xeons that all Mac Pro's use. Based simply on this last update, you can expect Ivy Bridge based Xeons no less than a year after their desktop and mobile counterparts are released.

That said, Ivy bridge is simply a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. It's the exact same CPU architecture, whats interesting about it is really the process technology (ie tri-gate transistors and 22nm) and the Integrated graphics, which are based on a new architecture and are expected to be a significant update. Both of these are hardly relevant in a workstation class processor like Mac Pro's use. There's some more features, sure, such as USB 3 being integrated, etc. But for the Mac Pro, Ivy Bridge Xeons will not be as significant an upgrade as Sandy Bridge Xeons.

All this is IMO, and I really only have a basic understanding of the specifics. Head over to something like anandtech.com if you actually want to learn about the differences between the two.
 
P-Worm said:
I currently own a 2006 Mac Pro that is obviously starting to get a bit old. I have thought I might be able to get a year or two more out of it, but that's a stretch. Needless to say, I am pretty interested in a new Mac Pro being released, especially as I am still a student and could utilize a student discount.

HOWEVER.

I wonder what the future for the Mac Pro is and whether I will be able to upgrade my machine in 3+ years. The main reason to pay the premium for a Mac Pro is upgradability, expandability, and being able to use the monitors that I have instead of being forced to buy one with an iMac. What happens if Apple decides that they no longer want to make Mac Pros and all of a sudden I won't be able to upgrade the graphics card to extend the life of my machine? If I was unable to upgrade the graphics card in the machine that I have now, it wouldn't have lasted nearly as long.

P-Worm
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I'm in exactly the same boat. I'm really looking at upgrading my 2006 Mac Pro but I'm seriously considering self building a PC and moving over to Linux entirely.

I'm not entirely convinced that getting a new Mac Pro is the right use of my cash. I'd rather build a custom PC to my exact specification. Time will tell though. I won't be buying a computer until the new Ivy Bridge processors are released for consumer machines so that I can compare the two and see which one is most cost effective when talking about performance.
 
Business Expense

After last year's 15" MBP and 13" MBA, I was beginning to fret about what my large expenses for 2012 might be. Sure my MP '08 is still in fine shape but I like the knowledge that if something goes wrong it's covered under AppleCare which as of this month, ran out one year ago. I'm already looking forward to an iPad 3 to take with me on customer visits but a new MP would fit nicely on my expense line this year.
 
Phew! So the 89 pro-sumers in the market for a Mac Pro will be happy. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple killed the Mac Pro line this year.
 
No other confirming rumors though... Yet.

I hope Apple doesn't dissolve it's professional support. There's something intrinsically beneficial to the company's integrity; they shouldn't forget where they've come from.
 
Drag'nGT said:
Can I just get a Mac Pro priced like an i7 iMac without the 27" screen?
Seriously. Take $1000 off for the 27" screen and sell me a brand new quad Mac Pro for $1200.
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Just the case worth 500$ (can be bought by third party seller)
960 watt top notch Power supply about 350$
All the fan (almost noiseless)
Not that expensive... Compare to what Dell offer in the same category... :)
 
jayhawk11 said:
There's so much wrong with this in regards to the Mac Pro, that I don't even know where to start.
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you're so right :D

but i have to admit that also not really understand why is Intel is now presenting an Sandy-Bridge based Server-class CPU and on the other hand Ivy-bridge CPU

ok .. if i think about i see that the business-market is not so fastmoving and changing as the consumermarket is, but their productlineup and naming is confusing
 
wikus said:
Theres no excuse for completely ignoring the Mac Pro for the last 4 years. Apple's worth is now at half a trillion dollars. Theyve got over 80 billion dollars in cash.

So what if their iToys/iOS/iPhone are bringing in cash? How does that stop Apple from still putting any kind of attention to the Mac Pro?
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By that logic they should bring back the Newton and Cyberdog too.
 
astrorider said:
By that logic they should bring back the Newton and Cyberdog too.
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The Mac Pro's still an arguably valuable tool for a relevant amount of customers. That logic does not suggest that the Newton and Cyberdog should be brought back. The only correlation is that they are Apple products, only one of which is even still active. :confused:
 
Rot'nApple said:
How many times have you upgraded your 2006 Mac Pro to keep it viable, I'm curious to know? I have a 2006 24" white iMac first Intel chip one and I'm gonna be in the market soon for a new iMac. My old one, as is, served me well, and I never once thought about, 'man I wish I could upgrade or expand this thing'!
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Just because you don't need to upgrade your Mac doesn't mean that the need does not exist for others. In my Dual 2.8 Quad-core (2008), I've upgraded my RAM twice (currently at 10GB), upgraded the graphics card (the first one bit the dust), added a new hard drive. And I'm thinking about adding a PCI card for audio recording purposes. I needed these upgrades because I push my Mac pretty hard with the work I do. I need the flexibility the Pro line affords. And it was all dead simple to do -- not so with your iMac.
 
coder12 said:
I applaude this news; I really feel for the fans of the Mac Pro and Classic iPod--they've (I guess this includes me...) been left in limbo for quite some time!
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So now it's just iPod Classic pepople?

Let's hope we are next to hear something :) :apple:
 
It just occurred to me that NAB starts April 14 which would be perfect timing for a MP refresh.
 
Hope this finally triggers the update, if for no other reason than it will most likely bring support for a current GPU to most PMs.
 
We had to buy a new computer before the end of the year so we got a Dual 4 core Mac Pro refurbished and saved a couple hundred bucks. Works like a champ.
 
Custommm said:
Dont understand why Apple would want to kill the MP line... Even if they dont sell as many...
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Basically because:

1)The Mac Pro is ridiculously expensive (especially in comparison to Wintel workstations/high end boxes)

2)iMacs are really pretty powerful for much cheaper...sure, they're not the exact same performance as a $3000 MacPro but unless you really really really really need that 10-20% performance gain of a MacPro (compared to a high end iMac), it's not worth it...might as well buy 2 iMacs...or, golly, just wait the extra 2 minutes while rendering something.

3)Nobody buys MacPros (mainly for the 2 reasons above) unless there is some super special need/niche...and for the folks who like to brag that they spent $2500+ on a computer with daddy's money.


My friend has a higher end $1700 iMac 27" and as for cpu cycles is concerned, the thing flies. But that's using specialty software that uses all the cores 100% of the time at full throttle. For the rest of his use, the machine still flies. Mac Pro starts at $2500 and has no monitor and a pathetic 3GB RAM installation. So again, $800 more expensive and the performance is similar. Once you start upgrading the Mac Pro you're really at $3000 minimum...so why not buy 2 iMacs? Sure, every situation is different but the MacPros really fit into a small niche.
 
What if Tim Cook announced PowerMacs at the iPad HD event this week? That would cement his public commitment to Mac which he states and shows is real.

What if he had a "cubelike" MacPro surprise? Surprise and delight is the Apple mantra.

Apple TV and an accessory too . . . .

iPad midi come August-September for ed K-6!

Rocketman

P.S. What if the accessory is a Thunderbolt dongle to hook a bunch of stuff to?

Tim Cook: "We're all here anyway, one more thing, let's do a Mac event next!"
 
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