Mac Pro Update Now Possible with New Xeon E5 Chips Next Week

[astrorider]

The Mac Pro's still an arguably valuable tool for a relevant amount of customers. That logic does not suggest that the Newton and Cyberdog should be brought back. The only correlation is that they are Apple products, only one of which is even still active.

By this logic, companies should quit making hammers, because Nerf darts made a billion dollars last year.

I'd certainly be disappointed at the death of the Mac Pro, in fact I think it would be a huge mistake. But the point was that simply because Apple has loads of cash doesn't mean they should spend it on everything any of there customers might like. The company needs to remain focused to remain successful, and the Newton and Cyberdog were admittedly extreme examples.

 

[bungiefan89]

Battlefield 3 is the benchmark now.

Benchmark!? The game looks the SAME on Low as when it's on Ultra! What kind of benchmark is THAT!?

Measure something real, like how efficiently it can process works in Photoshop or Final Cut Pro.

 

[petsounds]

3)Nobody buys MacPros (mainly for the 2 reasons above) unless there is some super special need/niche...and for the folks who like to brag that they spent $2500+ on a computer with daddy's money.

Pros need both speed AND flexibility. And many IT staff in advertising, graphic design, post-production, and audio engineering companies would disagree with your statement that "nobody buys Mac Pros". I know, because I've seen them filling hundreds of cubicles.

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

There are plenty of professional film editors, motion graphic designers, and 3D designers that need the power and customizability of the Mac Pro. Let's hope that Apple utilizes this and actually updates the Mac Pros with more than a minor speed upgrade...let's do this!!!

The best software for iOS of OS X is and will be produced by these professionals. Apple needs to release a new Mac Pro soon.

 

[Wild-Bill]

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Woo Hoo !!

Time to release an updated Mac Pro, Apple !!!
(Now that the chips have been officially "launched" )

 

[spiffers]

At the moment is Apple experiencing something they never have before. All iOS devices sneaking inthrough the backdoors in big corporations globally is starting to open up the enterprise market for laptops and workstations as well. We will see more integration between iOS and OSX, but OSX and the Mac will not be forgotten.

The growth Apple has will at some point stagnate. There is just so and so many iOS devices to sell before a market becomes saturated. The next big unsaturated market is actually enterprise. To sustain growth and big numbers, Apple must push more products, and also products within a higher price range.

I can say its guaranteed Apple will come with more Pro or Enterprise products, and for that they will push Macs. But for consumers, Im pretty sure the Macs are on the decline.

i-devices are cars, Macs are trucks.

 

[BreuerEditor]

A lot of people will have eat a lot of words about Apple abandoning the Mac Pro line.

Sorry to bring up old scars, but when Apple kills the workflow of professional film editors with FCPX and calls it version 10, (when the next version would be 8...hence iMovie v9 goes to FCP v10), along with Aperture looking more and more like iPhoto, it's hard to think that Apple thinks about the pro market anymore...fool me once......

 

[puckhead193]

hope this is true, better start cleaning the desk off for my thunderbolt display!!

(I hope it does have thunderbolt)

 

[spacedcadet]

Pro means business

Our IT department only buy us Mac Pros because they are better value for money over the long term. They can get 6 years out of them minimum, they trickle them down through the company.
They are rock solid reliable and the ease of adding/swapping multiple hard drives, external monitor options etc. are a no brainer.
They actually refused a request for iMacs. Screen doesn't cut it, not cost effective in mid-term.

Suspect many of the "iMacs are plenty powerful, nobody NEEDS a MacPro" posters don't have a clue about the real world of professional users.

 

[not1lost]

Apple is moving the Mac Pro towards a two-year update cycle. We won't see this for a while.

seriously???

 

[yeah]

Two technologies that Mac Pro customers won't be overly concerned with. Ivy Bridge is more of a player in the mobile space and USB 3 takes a back seat to Thunderbolt in storage speed and latency.

Ivy Bridge is also coming to desktops

 

[TwitchOSX]

Basically because:

1)The Mac Pro is ridiculously expensive (especially in comparison to Wintel workstations/high end boxes)

Wrong. Go quote a dell with the same specs as our new Mac Pro and tell me how much that costs. It's about the same price if not more expensive than the Mac Pro.

Go spec out all the parts (including a very very high end case) at Newegg and let me know what the price is. You might get it a little cheaper through Newegg but then you have to spend the time putting it together.

 

[yeah]

Our IT department only buy us Mac Pros because they are better value for money over the long term. They can get 6 years out of them minimum, they trickle them down through the company.
They are rock solid reliable and the ease of adding/swapping multiple hard drives, external monitor options etc. are a no brainer.
They actually refused a request for iMacs. Screen doesn't cut it, not cost effective in mid-term.

Suspect many of the "iMacs are plenty powerful, nobody NEEDS a MacPro" posters don't have a clue about the real world of professional users.

So you think a 27" iMac with [Intel Core i7 @ 3.4 GHz, 16GB ram, AMD 6970M with 2GB GDDR5 ram and 2TB HDD] is not good enough?

 

[Custommm]

Basically because:

1)The Mac Pro is ridiculously expensive (especially in comparison to Wintel workstations/high end boxes)

2)iMacs are really pretty powerful for much cheaper...sure, they're not the exact same performance as a $3000 MacPro but unless you really really really really need that 10-20% performance gain of a MacPro (compared to a high end iMac), it's not worth it...might as well buy 2 iMacs...or, golly, just wait the extra 2 minutes while rendering something.

3)Nobody buys MacPros (mainly for the 2 reasons above) unless there is some super special need/niche...and for the folks who like to brag that they spent $2500+ on a computer with daddy's money.


My friend has a higher end $1700 iMac 27" and as for cpu cycles is concerned, the thing flies. But that's using specialty software that uses all the cores 100% of the time at full throttle. For the rest of his use, the machine still flies. Mac Pro starts at $2500 and has no monitor and a pathetic 3GB RAM installation. So again, $800 more expensive and the performance is similar. Once you start upgrading the Mac Pro you're really at $3000 minimum...so why not buy 2 iMacs? Sure, every situation is different but the MacPros really fit into a small niche.

Sure it's a niche... Having 5 SSD inside a mac , 2 Raid array on PCIe, Many external drive is niche too... But that's my world.
Some poeple need truck you know. I've tried with iMac 27 i7,but end up selling it because sadly,it's was just not enough...
Apple should continue to sell solutions for their consumer... For All of them.

 

[verstaerker]

Basically because:

1)The Mac Pro is ridiculously expensive (especially in comparison to Wintel workstations/high end boxes)

2)iMacs are really pretty powerful for much cheaper...sure, they're not the exact same performance as a $3000 MacPro but unless you really really really really need that 10-20% performance gain of a MacPro (compared to a high end iMac), it's not worth it...might as well buy 2 iMacs...or, golly, just wait the extra 2 minutes while rendering something.

3)Nobody buys MacPros (mainly for the 2 reasons above) unless there is some super special need/niche...and for the folks who like to brag that they spent $2500+ on a computer with daddy's money.

i tell you what: theres an world with people that have other needs than you

1. no this is not true .. go and buy as powerful machine as the actual MacPro from other manufacturers .. you will notice something
2. an iMac is (even if it really was as powerful as a MacPro) completly useless for lot's of people:
*what if you don't want this screen
*what if you need more than 16 gb of ram (very likely with modern 64 bit software for video or 3d graphic applications)
*what if you need additional harddrives, video/audiocards or a real highend graphic

 

[wikus]

By that logic they should bring back the Newton and Cyberdog too.

By your logic, the Mac Pro is not sold anymore at all.

 

[hayesk]

The best software for iOS of OS X is and will be produced by these professionals. Apple needs to release a new Mac Pro soon.

Not necessarily. Many developers use MacBookPros and Mac minis. Unless you are working on a huge app, the CPU performance increase from using a Mac Pro isn't as relevant as it used to be.

 

[TwitchOSX]

So you think a 27" iMac with [Intel Core i7 @ 3.4 GHz, 16GB ram, AMD 6970M with 2GB GDDR5 ram and 2TB HDD] is not good enough?

No. I don't want a laptop processor in my computer.

 

[notabadname]

MP has a longer life IMO, as some have said, due to so many upgrade options. GPUs, HDs, optical and RAM are easy to swap or add to. My G5 lasted 6 years before it finally couldn't run the last OS. Plus paying for a screen is a waste with each cycle if you have a nice monitor already. I would rather put those dollars into the computer.

 

[fox10078]

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Finally. Hopefully intel will not have such problems when ivy bridge xeons get into production.

 

[Renzatic]

I'd certainly be disappointed at the death of the Mac Pro, in fact I think it would be a huge mistake. But the point was that simply because Apple has loads of cash doesn't mean they should spend it on everything any of there customers might like. The company needs to remain focused to remain successful, and the Newton and Cyberdog were admittedly extreme examples.

This is true, and I don't expect them to. But you're talking about a niche that Apple has supported practically since they're inception. It's not exactly like they're spreading out into uncharted territory here. People are just expecting (hoping for) them to continue supporting the same computers they've been making for a couple of decades now.

If Apple were hemorrhaging money by continuing to support the Pro line, I could understand why they'd want to abandon it. But they're not (as far as I know). They're just not making as much in comparison to the iDevices.

 

[TwitchOSX]

MP has a longer life IMO, as some have said, due to so many upgrade options. GPUs, HDs, optical and RAM are easy to swap or add to. My G5 lasted 6 years before it finally couldn't run the last OS. Plus paying for a screen is a waste with each cycle if you have a nice monitor already. I would rather put those dollars into the computer.

Yep. We bought a Dual 2.5 G5 like 7 years ago. Just replaced it with a Mac Pro because we had to upgrade to Adobe Creative Suite 5 and that wouldnt run on PowerPC hardware. But the G5 still lives strong. And the only thing I've done to it was put some extra ram in.

 

[fox10078]

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So you think a 27" iMac with [Intel Core i7 @ 3.4 GHz, 16GB ram, AMD 6970M with 2GB GDDR5 ram and 2TB HDD] is not good enough?

No. I don't want a laptop processor in my computer.

iMacs stopped using mobile processors a few years ago. But GPU is still mobile and complete ****.

 

[damir00]

I can find iMac-class desktops for much less than the price of a MacPro, but as others have mentioned, these "70% cheaper" Dell equivalents appear to exist nowhere but in fertile imaginations.

Would certainly welcome a link demonstrating otherwise...

 

[Rocketman]

Agree with spacecase, er, spacecadet.

What if they ran ADS for Macpro?!? It could happen.

Buy a desktop PC that runs EVERY OS . . .

15 second hit and run ads. Visit a store or the web for details.

Rocketman