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Sick of waiting for the upgrades. Stats basically say "Apple doesn't give a damn about mac users because Tim Cook can do everything on his iPad pro".

Yes the iPad pro is a excellent device but it could NEVER replace a laptop for me.

They EASILY could have announced mac products at their iPhone event. Easily. I wouldn't have cared if they weren't released till November. I'd be happy with an announcement.


The MacPro?? They made a huge deal about bringing it back and now have just left it for several years... Not even a internal upgrade? They don't need a event for that... I don't understand what they are trying to do!! Push people to windows?
 
I wonder what Apple's strategy is? Are they really going to double down on the iPads and give up on the macs? Or is there something else going on that we don't know about? I do see tim talk about the iPad being better than most PC that are over 5 years old so the iPad is a great replacement. Then the ads come out that ask what a computer is. So I do think that Apple is looking to the future and investing there, but it seems very strange to me that they would abandon the PC/Laptop line so fast. The fact that macOS continue to get attention is the counter point that suggest they are investing in the Mac and that there is some super secret project that will be revealed soon that will blow us away. (not really counting on that happening, but I got nothing else).
 
Why are they doing this? Does it make more sense financially? Like why not just give some spec bumps? What are all the people on the Mac teams doing? Did they get moved to other teams? For a computer company this is really interesting to see what made them decide to seemingly halt every mac product they have.
 
"According to rumors, Apple is planning to introduce a revamped MacBook Pro as soon as next month"

Uh, please tell me this was written in September.
In a span of two weeks, we've apparently gone from "likely aiming for late October launch" to "planning to introduce as soon as [(i.e., no earlier than)] [November]." Though at this point, what's a few weeks between friends?

As an aside, I'm not sure what it says that would-be customers for an updated MacBook Pro are parsing slight changes in wording, not even of official company statements, but of speculative prose on an industry rumor blog, as though they were pronouncements from a recent FOMC meeting during Alan Greenspan's tenure leading the Fed. But there it is. Whatever it says, whether about Apple or those reading the bones and tea leaves, can't be good.
 
Apple's lousy updates and crippled prosumer products forced me to build a Hackintosh.

That said, I should have built a Hackintosh years ago... best 'Mac' I've ever owned.

My 2010 Mac Mini is still getting the job done but I have a feeling this will probably be the last year it will get a new version of MacOS. When that day comes I'm just gonna build a Hackintosh.
 
Very foolish of them to let things slip like this for so long.

One would like to think this is part of a master plan that takes into account the benefits and penalties involved with postponing an update for as long as Apple has. The worry is that it is due to incompetence/mismanagement. Only Apple knows for sure (presumably).
 
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In a span of two weeks, we've apparently gone from "likely aiming for late October launch" to "planning to introduce as soon as [(i.e., no earlier than)] [November]." Though at this point, what's a few weeks between friends?

It's a typo, or some overzealous copy and pasting. Gurman and Ming Chi Kuo have not rescinded their October predictions.

Although at this rate, the time in which we'll all get them in our hands is going to be November.
 
Yeah it does not make sense to buy a Mac right now. But here's my story. I bought a Dell XPS 13. Was very buggy and had crappy trackpad. Returned. Bought a Lenovo Thinkpad T450s. Was buggy and hence returned too. Got MacBook Pro Retina 13 inch. Works flawlessly. Not the fastest computer. But does its job.
 
Mac releases are restricted by Intel updates. There is new Intel stuff now, but maybe Apple moved onto other projects while they were waiting.

I'd happily accept ARM processors for Macs if the following conditions were met:
1. They were as powerful as the Intel equivalents.
2. There was an Intel Rosetta for backwards compatibility.
3. It renewed Apple's interest in the Mac lineup.
 



Amid a continuing decline in worldwide PC shipments, Apple is also experiencing a decline according to new PC shipping estimates from Gartner. During the third quarter of 2016, Apple shipped an estimated 5 million Macs, down from 5.4 million in the year-ago quarter for a 13.4 percent decline in growth.

Can someone inform me how going from 5.4 million to 5 million shipments is a 13.4% decline?
It's a 400 000 unit decline, 400 000/5 400 000= 7.4%
 
Just as well Samsung are doing such a fine job propping up AAPL's share price at the moment.

This is when Apple's secrecy over new products becomes a negative - people wait, then wait, then wait and then when nothing happens they say "screw it, I'll buy something else". I just bought a Windows laptop for the first time in about 7/8 years because it's pointless waiting for updated macs and I am sure as hell not buying a very out of date piece of overpriced tech from Apple at present.
 
6 years ago I would not consider a pc laptop. Now I would not consider a Mac
Several reasons that drive this to me. First Windows 10 is very nice with the current version. Second the income from Mac sales/profits in the current Apple business plan is not a large piece of the revenue, unlike 10 or even 5 years ago. Add shrinking Laptop sales worldwide, Intel's implosion on providing a good product and the reasons make a little more sense. Also the Android phone business model that floods the market with cheap Windows laptops and now Chromebooks have cut into profit margins for everybody but Microsoft and Google.
 
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