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Mac Sales Continue to Slide Amid Lack of Updates
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Thanks for the laughs! Oh goodness, you are a funny funny man! Oh wait, you're serious? I don't think changing names and putting siri (that can't do much to begin with) on the desktop os counts as getting "attention". It's more like being thrown a dog bone.
I don;t disagree, but I think this also has something to do with the market in general. People aren't buying personal computers with their money.
The problem with #2 is that Apple would kill it the first chance they get, like they did with Rosetta.
And no Windows VMs/Bootcamp would turn away a lot of people.
I agree with a previous poster - it's more of a psychological issue. I have the "top of the line" MPB 15 - and not once have I had ever thought geez I wish this thing were faster.
Besides games, what's taxing these machines? The current line is more then adequate for 90% of current use cases. Same goes for the other platforms.
I think it's a case of wanting the new every year...vs actually needing the marginal improvements yr over yr.
Besides games, what's taxing these machines? The current line is more then adequate for 90% of current use cases. Same goes for the other platforms.
I think it's a case of wanting the new every year...vs actually needing the marginal improvements yr over yr.
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I'm baffled by apple on this. I'm starting to think this is a social experiment..."how outdated can we keep our hardware before our hardest fanboys stops buying". Do apple think they can sell anything as long as it's aluminum and have an apple logo on it?.
At least they lost a mac customer in me... since I use a computer professionally I need to have some sense of reliability as to when I can buy hardware that are up to date. I'm done with apple as a computer brand.
At least they lost a mac customer in me... since I use a computer professionally I need to have some sense of reliability as to when I can buy hardware that are up to date. I'm done with apple as a computer brand.
Total shocker /s
OK, so let's get the Mac show back into the prime time! Hello Apple! Macs matter too.
OK, so let's get the Mac show back into the prime time! Hello Apple! Macs matter too.
The only "logical" reasoning I can figure is someone at Apple realized they are going to sell 4.5 - 6 million macs per quarter whether they update them or not. People are still buying them so why not. Let the fervor build, intro new models, sell 6-8 million for the next 4-6 quarters, 5-7 million for the successive 4 quarters, and 4.5-6 million for the 3-4 quarters. Wash rinse repeat.
Going mac means you are entering an ecosystem which is getting increasingly harder to get out of. I need computers (and fast ones at that) as a necessary part of my job. With what they've done with the Mac Pro, and th eMacbook Pro over the past couple of years, even if Apple does release the awesomest computers in a month, how can I trust that they won't pull a Mac Pro on me and force me to make the difficult step of moving over to PC a couple of years from now for my job, or alternatively suffer with low performing devices that reduce my productivity relative to competitors dramatically (or as in the case of VR, not even allow me to enter a field).
You mean nobody wants to spend thousands on an antique Mac Pro? 
No idea why people are so desperate to get Skylake. Barely faster and ships with a laundry list of errata. Best wait on Kabyle Lake and that won't ship for MBP until next year.
And we need to be able to virtualize the same way we are with tools like Parallels and Fusion. Having the option to run Windows/Linux, etc is a real must these days. My understanding is that this is posible right now because of the Intel chips, but I might be completely off.
I shall be putting a 15" Macbook Pro in my basket tomorrow at apple.com/uk . I'm sure it will run Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Onedrive, Safari, iTunes, iMovie and all the other apps required fine, with excellent battery life, very decent screen resolution, wireless AC, fast SSD, and one of the best if not the best trackpad available on a notebook.
But its works money so i don't care. still, its not like the current Macbooks are bad machines, they are still very good, and the Macbook Pro was refreshed last year. Its the MacPro and Mac Mini that need some loving.
But its works money so i don't care.
still, its not like the current Macbooks are bad machines, they are still very good, and the Macbook Pro was refreshed last year. Its the MacPro and Mac Mini that need some loving.I don't really care about Skylake. What I want is the cMBP line reinstated.
I agree with a lot of this. A lot of people pandering for an update don't appreciate that the newer Intel CPUs aren't much more powerful, if more powerful at all. Similar or lower benchmarks for the sake of a refresh would be pointless.
What could be improved is the pricing. If Apple can't justify an update, then don't charge the same cash for older tech. The current rMBPs are still very capable machines. But continuing to price them in that market is insulting to the consumer.
I can see Apple holding off to take away Microsofts thunder, the Microsoft event last year was a good performance and as there was hardly any competition they had a full media exposure something which Apple is usually good at neutralising with rumours.
I think either before or shortly after the Microsoft even we will at least see new MacBook Pro's.
I think either before or shortly after the Microsoft even we will at least see new MacBook Pro's.
I've been a huge mac advocate for 10 years or so, but my last computer purchase was an Asus desktop because I needed a decent nvidia GPU. I still use my iMac for day-to-day stuff, but when it gets old, I can't imagine anything changing enough to replace it with a mac. They've moved on to a totally different target population. Probably it's a bigger bunch of people-but, it's also a very fickle crowd, so who knows how long they will be able to keep their interest. By then, us nerds will have settled on something else. I really wish they would just abandon computers altogether and release OSX as an open source project.
They should have dropped in price, I think that's fair. You can do that by the back door by buying refurb (which is what I did when I needed more RAM and CPU power than my 13" 2013 rMBP had and bought a quad i7/16Gb 15" a few months ago) but still, the sticker price new should have come down.
It will continue to slide as long as they wait to update. I need a new Mac Pro and refuse to buy one with three-year-old specs and ports for the Apple premium. If they don't update this year, I'll just get a used 2013 Mac Pro refurbished, which can be had for 75% the price of new.
If that's the case then shouldn't we all just get $300 chromebooks since 95% of most users's use case involves surfing the web?
Is it Stockholm syndrome that is causing some Apple users to defend this indefensible behavior by Apple?
Indeed. I have actually recommended people look at alternatives, like, say, windows systems!
If I was in the market, which I will be soon, i would seriously consider switching from OS X for desktop/laptop computing needs, which I will.
I recommend the 2013 Macbook Air to folks as the best bang-for-buck Mac by far. Your point is well-taken though...
Agree. I think it's still reasonable at this point to expect at least an announcement (if not immediately available shipments of product) with or within a week before or after Apple's next quarterly earnings release.
I just think the despair and desperation, understandably brought on by a combination of delay and lack of concrete new information, has reached a sadly comical new high (or low, depending on how you look at it). There's some self-deprecation in my saying so; I don't exclude myself from among those despairing and desperate.