2015:
Asus 7.3%
Apple 7.2%
Acer 7.0%
2016
Asus 7.6%
Apple 6.9%
Acer 6.8%
2017
Apple 7.4%
Asus 6.8%
Acer 6.5%
2018
Apple 6.9%
Acer 6.1%
Asus 6.0%
Q1 2019
Apple 6.8%
Asus 6.2%
Acer 5.7%
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Mac Shipments Down in Q1 2019 Amid Worldwide PC Decline
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2015:
Asus 7.3%
Apple 7.2%
Acer 7.0%
2016
Asus 7.6%
Apple 6.9%
Acer 6.8%
2017
Apple 7.4%
Asus 6.8%
Acer 6.5%
2018
Apple 6.9%
Acer 6.1%
Asus 6.0%
Q1 2019
Apple 6.8%
Asus 6.2%
Acer 5.7%
Doesn't look like it.
You hit it. You don't represent the average consumer and Apple doesn't (and shouldn't) cater to the 0.1%. They are in business to make money and do so better than anyone.
I couldn't believe this. I had to go to the website to see for myself. This is unbelievable.
I would argue that it is the tech users who need to expand their horizons and worldview. They may not care about profits, but it’s an invaluable indicator of the success of a company nonetheless.
How many times have the critics been wrong about Apple simply because they chose to fixate on the (seemingly) lacklustre hardware specs and not on the end use experience? How many times have they dismissed a product outright based on its price, only for it to become a runaway hit with the masses?
I am increasingly of the opinion that self-styled tech experts are actually the least fit to comment on and evaluate what Apple is doing. Their view of the world is basically based on what they see around them most - cost leadership, divisional organizational structure, growth through M&A's, engineering-led.
For them, Apple is a puzzle as it is different in every single way and brings them discomfort. They think that Apple is lost just because it didn’t acquire Netflix or release a cheap iPhone. Rather than try to understand why Apple does things the way they have, these people have instead chosen to believe that it is Apple who is wrong.
They really need to talk a lot less, and start listening a lot more.
If they were completely obsolete, they wouldn’t still be made. I actually googled to see if there still was a new (and used) market for them and there is. Just like in the future there will still be people using PC’s like the horse and buggy they will likely NEVER go away, but the vast majority of folks will never prefer them over the motorized alternatives.
But, you can build an app with 5 or 6 “trucks” that then get installed on a few hundred million iOS devices. Apple could sell a few tens of thousands of developer Macs a year to provide developers what they need. Like the above example, a few (developers) will need them, but most everyone’s personal device will be something mobile... that’s PostPC.
Macs design hasn't changed in 10 years. Keyboards fail. Quality is shoddy. Screens haven't been updates in 3-5 years (no OLED, large bezels). Webcams are unusuable (640px in Macbook and Macbook Air). Prices are out of this world. Performance barely increases (intels fault). Neither SSDs nor memory is upgreadable (Which is ridiculous to have to buy a new computer to upgrade storage when over several years screens and processor performance barely changes. You're literally throwing away money just to upgrade storage) etc etc etc
Apple has long given up on Macs. We users just don't want to accept it.
Apple has long given up on Macs. We users just don't want to accept it.
Yeah what I noticed with Lenovo's Enterprise laptops is that they are easier to disassemble and you can replace much easier things like: the SSD, replace or add more RAM. IT guys really like this kind of stuff.
Some Lenovo laptops even support 2 SSDs.
No, he literally said the opposite of that. I think you just have a misunderstanding of what Jobs meant by post-PC. It does not mean PC sales go to zero.
What Jobs said is not everyone needs a truck anymore. A quick google search shows desktop/laptop ownership peaking at 80% of US households in 2012 with that number at 73% as of last year (Pew Research).
Within the last nine months, Apple has updated nearly their entire Mac lineup, and when the Mac Pro is finally released later this year, hopefully people will finally realize that Apple isn’t intending to discontinue Macs for “iToys”. Can’t we all just get along?
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Thanks for the stat!
I guess I was wrong about PC usage. I'm big enough to admit that!
How has the design of PCs/ laptops changed in that past 10 years? Apart from copying Apple’s design.
It’s a computer not a pair of clothes. There’s only so many ways it can be designed.
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I don’t own a desktop and haven’t for almost 10 years now. I have a MacBook. I’ve no need for a desktop at home.
I was actually surprised PC ownership wasn’t down further, after looking at the sales figures for PCs and tablets. Yes PC ownership is down somewhat, but nowhere near what one might expect based on the 150 million tablets/year that are sold.Thanks for the stat!
I guess I was wrong about PC usage. I'm big enough to admit that!
I think your point about tablets mostly being an adjunct to PCs is probably dead on. Most tablet users own a tablet and a PC, not a tablet instead if a PC. Sure, there are some who don’t really need a PC anymore, but that’s not the case for 90+% of users. They still need/want a desktop or laptop.
Agreed.
The thing to remember with articles like this is that they're only discussing new PC sales over a period of three months.
But it says nothing about the 1.5 billion PCs that are already out in the world right now. (there are other articles to discuss that)
I have two PCs that I use regularly. But they were purchased in 2015 and haven't been included in a quarterly sales chart in over 16 quarters!
So I'm still using PCs even if I haven't purchased PCs lately. And the same is true for a billion other users.
That's all I was saying.
I can't believe that people here are actually bragging about Apple margins being high. The fact that they ship expensive computers with low memory and slow harddrivers is not something to applaued. People are paying for OS development, for HW experimentation etc. The Apple machines nowadays are expensive in a way like never before, comparing price vs performance while taking quality into consideration.
People have been complaining about high Mac prices for at least 35 years. Gross margin hasn’t varied much in the last ten years. It’s actually gone down slightly over the past four years. So to the extent prices are any higher, it’s due to higher costs.
But isn't it also fault of HW creators that they don't provide USB-C as standard nowadays?
My 2011 iMac lasted for 6 years before I upgraded to the 2017 iMac, and I still managed to sell it for a few hundred dollars. So while I paid more upfront, total cost of ownership was actually pretty reasonable. It more than paid for itself in the form of greater productivity and fewer problems overall.
That’s what I am paying for. An integrated solution which works out of the box. And if Apple earns a decent margin off that, good for them, but it doesn’t factor into my buying decisions.
If you can be happy with Windows and crappy UX and crappy trackpads, then sure they are ovepriced. We have 2016 12-inch Macbook at home (basic model with m3, 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD) and it was freaking expensive for what it is on paper but it is great laptop and we use it with my wife daily. Not to mention, it also can be used for some heavier tasks in case of need (Photoshop and stuff).
No.
USB-C is just a a port standard, alongside every other port standard.
Apple choosing 100% USB-C does not mean that other companies must also only adopt that standard. It's up to Apple to ensure, that as the computer manufacturer, they are somewhat in line with the standards that are in use today.
I'm all for USB-C replacing just about every port. it's a wonderful port that carries numerous technologies.
But going 100% USB-C in a laptop and then screaming "the rest of the world is wrong!" is just a terrible business move. Standards Adoptions, especially in Computers can take up to a decade before the new standard is ubiquitious. When Apple did their redesign for USB-C only, the port standard was new. It's not up to everyone else in the industry to follow apples lead and suddenly throw away all other standards.
But many companies DO follow Apple and throw away all other standards. Headphone jack. Notch. Ultra thin design. When Apple lost floppy and later optical drives, people were screaming frenzy. So why with USB-C ports it is such big deal suddenly? USB-C only MBPs are here since 2016. Yet, camera or sound-card producers did not catch up yet. At least we have USB-C external drives.
I think that placing blame ONLY on Apple is just going halfway and not wanting to see whole picture.
Okay now we see why you're always defending Apple...you have money invested with them. Now I know objectivity is out the door when you're talking about Apple and to completely disregard anything positive you say about Apple.
your confusing two really different markets. the Smartphone market (yes, lots followed apples lead here) is a different set of overall players than the PC industry.
the comparison to floppy isn't also great. If you look at the timeline of when Apple dropped it, it wasn't really that early in the migration but around the "midway" point. Others had already dropped them (Dell laptops for example at the time actually had the option for no floppies). I can't speak to optical drives either as I dropped them before Apple even did.
USB-C is getting as quick a transition as USB-1.1 -> USB-2.0 and USB-2.0 to USB-3.0.
the devices that are already made, and already in the world, (Trillions of them) that are based on USB-A just don't suddenly poof, get up and vanish. USB-C released doesn't suddenly mean we replace all our server infrastructure to support USB-C. Or replace all our desktops towers just to support USB-C.
the USB-C support from manufacturers will come. It just will not come overnight. Apple going 100% USB-C is just their own business move. None of the rest of the industry is under any obligation to do so and they will at their own pace.
if you chose then to go Apple laptop, with the knowledge of USB-C only, than the only people to look at for failing to be compatible is yourself for purchasing a device now that purposely is cutting compatibility with the current industry standards. Will the rest of the industry likely end up USB-C? Yes. But it'll take time. And you cannot blame the thousands, if not dozens of thousands of manufacturers of goods that use USB to switch overnight. ESPECIALLY since they still need to support the legacy standards for now. if you estimate that 90%+ of the worlds computers have a USB-A port, and perhaps only 10-15% have USB-C, large scale component manufacturers would be asinine to completely switch over now. Especially to cater exclusively to < 10% of the worlds computer population using a Mac using USB-C only.
I am glad my job doesn't require a Mac...
When you look at QA of Mac vs iPad. Mac seems like an after thought to Apple.
Being a fan of Apple products, I must say, Macs are the only Apple products where I had to return multiple times to get a working unit.
MacBook Pro 2018 15" GPU glitches (pink line popping/flashes) 3 units [exchanged],
MacBook Pro 13 2018 overheats (browsing the web without extension and flash) 1 unit [returned].
When you look at QA of Mac vs iPad. Mac seems like an after thought to Apple.
Being a fan of Apple products, I must say, Macs are the only Apple products where I had to return multiple times to get a working unit.
MacBook Pro 2018 15" GPU glitches (pink line popping/flashes) 3 units [exchanged],
MacBook Pro 13 2018 overheats (browsing the web without extension and flash) 1 unit [returned].
Also wrong. I always point out the facts when people start droning about their anecdotal experience. I am easily one of the most objective people here and definitely use the most facts.
lmao! Most objective. Would love to see a post or 2 where you spoke negatively of something Apple has done.