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yeah yeah yeah...

...and no one could possibly want an iPod mini because you can get a Karma for the same money :rolleyes:
 
MacPhreak said:
I'm in the Lexington, KY area. We have a different cable service here than Lexington, though (we have Adelphia, poor excuse for cable IMHO, LEX has Insight).

The cable deal is open to the public. My DSL ($25/mo) is an employee discount from my wife's job ;-), and it's $35 for everyone else (which I was paying up until recently). I've actually been thinking about jumping ship to cable for the faster downloads, but I'm not sure exactly how much faster they'd be, since it's a shared connection, and not a dedicated one like DSL. Then there's the security risks with the shared cable....

When my wife was living way out in the boonies before we got married, the only option for broadband was through Pegasus satellite (they provide DirectTV to rural areas), for $45/mo IIRC, and it was quite slow (256/56, I think). Don't know how the "up" part works with a satellite receiver, though.

That whole shared connection argument is misleading. While its true that cable is sort of a "party line" set up, there is no real performance hit. In reality, the whole internet is a "party line" set up at some point. Cable just moves the sharing closer to the wall. But as long as the pipes are big enough, it shouldn't be an issue.

The typical downstream performance of cable blows the doors off of dsl. Most cable users see 2.5-4 Mbps down and usually 256kbps up. Compare that to an average of 768kbps for dsl. Cable is basically 3-5 times faster than dsl downstream. There's a reason cable modems are hugely more popular than dsl.

I suppose security is somewhat of an issue, but its basically the same if you have a router and firewall set up. I guess someone could sniff packets locally, but most of your important internet traffic(credit cards, passwords) are (hopefully) encrypted anyway. Besides, if you have a mac, your already protected against a lot of things.

As far as I can tell, the only reason to get dsl is if cable is unavailable or if you need the higher upstream of dsl. Even so, most cable companies will uncap the upstream for additional cost.
 
asphalt-proof said:
Cable is not an option because Timewarner (Roadrunn er) told me that their service doesn't work with macs.

umm, unless they are using something other than tcp/ip and connecting to a different internet than the rest of the world, they are full of it. The only possibility it is that a long time ago(like 4+ years ago), macs had problems with dhcp. This is a non-issue now.

Probably they think that because the crap software they give you isn't mac compatible (setup wizard, customized browser) the service isn't mac compatible. Of course, if you have a mac you don't need that crap anyway.
 
notkevin said:
I am using RR right now here in San Diego. I just put a Linksys router between the cable modem and the airport basestation and it works great.

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you need 2 routers to connect? In fact, I'm thinking you could get by with just a cable modem and an ethernet cable.
 
Do I think this is nice? Yep. Will I stay with my .mac membership? Yes. Do I think this is awesome? NO.

I think it's just funny that free services offer so much more space, even to upload files, not just for email. Ok you do not have the integration but still.

These are the things Apple would need to do to I think almost be able to double their customers.

- 1GB of dividable space
- 3 real POP email adresses + the available 5 aliases
- faster access for idisk
- faster website, webmail
- localize .mac to other languages
- integrate imixes, blogs, garageband songs, etc. into .mac
- password protection for ical calenders
- be able publish more calenders
- integrate the calenders into the .mac interface

This for below 99$ and a 30$ discount when you buy it together with another Apple software like Tiger for example and you'd have yourself a winner.

But Apple sometimes only seems to listen half-way. Do it right, please. I know you can.
 
Diatribe said:
Do I think this is nice? Yep. Will I stay with my .mac membership? Yes. Do I think this is awesome? NO.

I think it's just funny that free services offer so much more space, even to upload files, not just for email. Ok you do not have the integration but still.

These are the things Apple would need to do to I think almost be able to double their customers.

- 1GB of dividable space
- 3 real POP email adresses + the available 5 aliases
- faster access for idisk
- faster website, webmail
- localize .mac to other languages
- integrate imixes, blogs, garageband songs, etc. into .mac
- password protection for ical calenders
- be able publish more calenders
- integrate the calenders into the .mac interface

This for below 99$ and a 30$ discount when you buy it together with another Apple software like Tiger for example and you'd have yourself a winner.

But Apple sometimes only seems to listen half-way. Do it right, please. I know you can.
Apple will probably fix the iDisk performance issues with the release of Tiger (along with other .Mac enhancements available exclusively to Tiger users). Localizing the .Mac service should be fairly simple to do, but the other things you mentioned probably won't be implemented anytime soon. I don't see any technical barriers in the existing system for publishing multiple calendars if you have more than one - you just have to tell iCal which calendar(s) you want published, and iCal puts copies of them on your iDisk - simple as that, or at least that's the way it should be right now.
 
.Mac has nice features, but what Id really like is if Apple provided some kind of server app that you could stick on the paid hosting of your choice to use their back up software. Id personally be very happy paying maybe $40 a year for that.
 
Yey for Aliases.

I got the different spelling variations of my name (since my name deral is misspelt so much times) in addition to my main (deral@Mac.com)

i got an alias of my hometown (kahuku@mac.com--it's in hawaii)

and a chocolatecovered@mac.com

email me, i'm bored.
 
Don't remind me!

Yeah don't remind me, for the first couple of years of my .Mac, I went from 300 megs to 500 megs and renewed in July for 1 GB because I really needed it!!! It was, I think $300 over the $100 price... Ugh, happy but not happy...go figure.

Christopher

BornAgainMac said:
They give you 1 GB if you pay an extra $49 bucks a year.
Wasn't it $400 dollars a year more? I won't mind paying $49 a year.
 
Works for me as FTP

I was excited that storage increased to 250 MB yesterday. I've been using it as a customer-friendly FTP directory for the past two years. I have many map jobs where the Illustrator file is several MB and the linked Photoshop terrain image is anywhere between 20 and 100 MB.

My FedEx cost savings pays for .Mac. And with the increased storage, I'll be able to throw more up there instead of onto a CD.

The other aspect of storage that works for me is that it's offsite storage. I used to run CD backups to a safe deposit box a couple miles from my home-office. Now I use .Mac for backups of critical files (current working map files, business accounting and finance files, etc.).

My hope is that Apple finds it profitable enough to keep around.
 
I'm now on my second 60 day trial of .Mac and I'm still not particularly impressed. The whole interface (homepage, etc) stinks of 10.1 - they need to upgrade and make it more like Panther or Tiger. In fact, I'm currently using the trial of Macromedia Contribute and I think something a little easier to use and more powerful than that would make a brilliant addition to the iLife suite (it fits because it is a medium to share you iLife content). Stick that with .Mac (which Contribute already supports) and you're there. I want to be able to subscribe to .Mac where I have a proper little app that I can create decent webpages on but without the crap that is Homepage. I don't want to learn HTML or anything, I just want to be able to create a half decent looking webpage to showcase my creations and personal opinions, etc. .Mac just seems a little bit half-arsed.

Oh and the iDisk is sluggish I think, but that's due to my slowish connection (256k) - still at least its useable now (unlike on a modem).
 
My .mac membership is set to renew on October 2nd. I am still debating whether I should renew or not. $49.99 a year for 250MB or $99 a year for 1Gig would be a better pricing strategy. That way Apple could keep the customers who like .mac for email, integration and feautures plus they could please those who care more about storage space. $100 a year is to much to pay for only 250MB for most people. Actually right now I'm thinking about just letting my membership lapse. I can move my website over to my ISP in a snap the only thing keeping me stuck right now is the fact that I am rather dependent on my .mac email adress as I have been using it as my primary email adress for almost 3 years now, but I can always make the move to some 10 other email accounts I have from my ISP and school.
 
Diatribe said:
Does anyone know if you can make an add-on email account into a full .mac account and if they give you the aliases for that one too?

No on both accounts. You can probably cancel your add-on email address and reopen it as a full account because apple reserves your previous email addresses for you. In that case you will be able to use aliases.
 
Diatribe said:
Does anyone know if you can make an add-on email account into a full .mac account and if they give you the aliases for that one too?

I am pretty sure that you can upgrade an email only into a full account. My wife has the email only account on our set up. When she logs into the .mac homepage, she is greeted by saying if she upgrades to a full member... So I am sure it is possible.

If you do upgrade, I would assume that the account then becomes a full user account, not an addition to your original account.
 
zim said:
I am pretty sure that you can upgrade an email only into a full account. My wife has the email only account on our set up. When she logs into the .mac homepage, she is greeted by saying if she upgrades to a full member... So I am sure it is possible.

If you do upgrade, I would assume that the account then becomes a full user account, not an addition to your original account.

That sounds good. But I assume that iN8 is correct and you cannot have aliases for the email only account, right?
 
how do you divide your idisk, so you have like 50 mb for email and 200 for idisk? i looked in preferences under .mac and got nothing.
 
corywoolf said:
how do you divide your idisk, so you have like 50 mb for email and 200 for idisk? i looked in preferences under .mac and got nothing.

Click on your name to change the settings on the .mac webpage on the right hand side and then on idisk settings I believe.
 
Diatribe said:
That sounds good. But I assume that iN8 is correct and you cannot have aliases for the email only account, right?

I am also assuming that once you transfer an email only account to a full account, it becomes another account, not an addition to the primary account. You may want to post on the .mac help board, just to be sure.
 
zim said:
I am also assuming that once you transfer an email only account to a full account, it becomes another account, not an addition to the primary account. You may want to post on the .mac help board, just to be sure.

Ah, k. Thanks. And could you just confirm whether there are no aliases for the email-only version, plz.
 
Diatribe said:
Ah, k. Thanks. And could you just confirm whether there are no aliases for the email-only version, plz.

The only account that can have additional accounts, email only, is the main full account. You can not buy additional email only accounts under an email only account only under the full account... not sure if that answers your question.
 
On another note... in Germany, Austria and Switzerland there is a service that offers 1GB storage for email AND files, two email adresses and 20MB attachments FOR FREE.
And if you get the ultra super duper :D email option (which costs 5€/month by the way) you get 10GB of storage, 50MB attachments, 15 adresses, no ads, etc.
Now if that only had the integration of .mac it would rule my world.
Just to advertise what CAN be done.

Apple is just making a ****load of money with .mac. Half a million users for 99$ each is about 50 million Dollars if I can count correctly. Now, the server structure, storage, webdesign costs maybe 1/10 of that. Shame on Apple, but I guess people are used to paying premium. I in a way am too now I guess, since I pay for .mac too. :rolleyes:
 
Diatribe said:
Ah, k. Thanks. And could you just confirm whether there are no aliases for the email-only version, plz.

Confirmed. There are no email aliases for email-only addresses. I logged into my wifes email and she has none.
 
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