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I am a .Mac subscriber, and really could care less about the fact that are cheaper options out there. The fact that they seamless tie to OSX is very valuable to me. To have all of my contacts, bookmarks, etc, in sync is well worth the 100 bucks a year.
Plus, people ignore that with Google, Yahoo, etc., you get a low price because they pump ads to you, and in many cases, sell your information. No thanks.
In the information age, what is your privacy worth? It amazes me people don't factor this into the cost of doing business with companies.
WITH THAT SAID, I may cancel .Mac because of quality issues. iDisk is unbearably slow. Mail problems left and right. I have critical data on my iDisk, and it concerns me that this is not Apple's finest work. (maybe Microsoft's but not Apple's.
Apple better get their act together on .Mac to keep it's customers. Hopefully Tiger will help, but Apple needs to put some great engineering minds on this and spend some $ on a few more xserves to get the speed and quality up.
Plus, people ignore that with Google, Yahoo, etc., you get a low price because they pump ads to you, and in many cases, sell your information. No thanks.
In the information age, what is your privacy worth? It amazes me people don't factor this into the cost of doing business with companies.
WITH THAT SAID, I may cancel .Mac because of quality issues. iDisk is unbearably slow. Mail problems left and right. I have critical data on my iDisk, and it concerns me that this is not Apple's finest work. (maybe Microsoft's but not Apple's.
Apple better get their act together on .Mac to keep it's customers. Hopefully Tiger will help, but Apple needs to put some great engineering minds on this and spend some $ on a few more xserves to get the speed and quality up.
MacPhreak said:
Who is your provider and where do you live?? Here in a small town in NC its pretty much $40 amonth for 512/256. Cable is not an option because Timewarner (Roadrunn er) told me that their service doesn't work with macs. Never really did anyt checking to confirm it though. even so, they are also $40 a month. I would throw down $30 in a heartbeat for bradband. Actually my wife would let me.
macridah said:
I really don't want to see "relavant text ads in my email, etc. like Gmail is supposed to have. I think this is a positive thing and they are not trying to be a hard drive for everyone...they are trying to sell something to those mac users that are wanting things all in one place which takes money to create and maintain. There are many things in .Mac that you can't get other places or if you can it takes much more time on the users part to either find it or learn how to do it and it is not worth it. I like the ease of use and time it gives me to do other things. I don't like clipping coupons much because the time it takes is not worth the savings...same here. I use dvd's and other methods to back up and store info...not my .Mac.
tech4all said:Hmmm that's weird, its "supposed" to be at 250MB yet I only got 125MB? What gives?
You need to log in to the .mac website and then in your settings you can set how you want to use the 250MB.
MacFly said:
So is the guy clueless or is there some special trick involved. notkevin's approach seems cludgy but I'm having a hard time focusing rt. now so maybe I'm not thinking it through correctly. Thanks for the info though. I may give them a call tomorrow.
YEY. I'm so excited, that I'm going to pee in my pants and die from hypothermia. I got seven more days left on my .mac membership, and there is no chance that I wasn't going to renew, but goodness, is this the Strawberry of the Whip Cream, eh? No more exceeding space emails for a while!!! YEY YEY.
(I'm simmering down now)
(I'm simmering down now)
why so down?
something that came to me on the mac thread, but applies here. A trunk, four legs and a tail. Some people are not seeing the whole.
1 at home one at the office. My partner, who would never be using a computer if it weren't for Mac, can handle opening his iDisk and dropping a proposal in to work on it at home. He syncs the calendar and address book! I could want to use all sorts of things to save a buck (I'm like that), but I can see how he accepts it. He uses it! I find that very valuable. I don't normally use the e-mail, but I must admit it has saved my hide once or twice. I'm ready to give homepage templates another go soon, but am currently using the site folder with something whipped up with go live 4.
Cheaper alternatives? I'll put my eggs in this basket.
edit: I use road runner here in San Antonio TX. Ethernet Cable modem directly into imac g3. Tech was so suprised I had it up and running with no drivers. He was used to installing software on the pc_s before the modems were recognized. Ipay Earthlink who uses roadrunner. Road runner collects the check, but I'm an Earthlink customer. At the time it was the better deal(see told you I was like that ).
something that came to me on the mac thread, but applies here. A trunk, four legs and a tail. Some people are not seeing the whole.
1 at home one at the office. My partner, who would never be using a computer if it weren't for Mac, can handle opening his iDisk and dropping a proposal in to work on it at home. He syncs the calendar and address book! I could want to use all sorts of things to save a buck (I'm like that), but I can see how he accepts it. He uses it! I find that very valuable. I don't normally use the e-mail, but I must admit it has saved my hide once or twice. I'm ready to give homepage templates another go soon, but am currently using the site folder with something whipped up with go live 4.
Cheaper alternatives? I'll put my eggs in this basket.
edit: I use road runner here in San Antonio TX. Ethernet Cable modem directly into imac g3. Tech was so suprised I had it up and running with no drivers. He was used to installing software on the pc_s before the modems were recognized. Ipay Earthlink who uses roadrunner. Road runner collects the check, but I'm an Earthlink customer. At the time it was the better deal(see told you I was like that
).
asphalt-proof said:
The guy's definately clueless. I currently have 2 macs using my RoadRunner cable connection right now. No tricks, just plug it in.
Maybe he was just saying Time-Warner doesn't support Macs? Although even that makes no sense. They gave me an OS X setup disc I never even looked at when they brought the modem.
You may find this interesting
The 15 MB was not enough for me, so recently I bought the next level (think it was 30 MB?) and here's what Apple did for me today:
We're excited to announce that every full .Mac membership now comes with 250 MB of combined .Mac Mail and iDisk storage. We want to say thank you for your past purchase of additional storage by immediately increasing your total storage to 1.2 GB for the duration of your current membership.
Pretty nice of them. And anybody who doubts .mac's value should do what I do for a living, where I literally have to exchange 40-60 meg files weekly with people. My designer was just working on a PDF which grew to 23MB. Too big for email, and having that iDisk meant the entire revision process was speeded up by weeks. My client (also a Mac user) just opened my iDisk and downloaded the PDF. Otherwise I'd need to FedEx CDs or deal with FTP which is just not as user-friendly for many people. Today I needed to get him a high res and he emailed me and said, "put it on the iDisk". I did so, emailed him back, and said "there it is". Bam (to quote Emeril)!. No muss, no fuss.
It's all about how you use the technology that matters. And the iDisk's desktop integration is a phenomenal part of the user experience.
The 15 MB was not enough for me, so recently I bought the next level (think it was 30 MB?) and here's what Apple did for me today:
We're excited to announce that every full .Mac membership now comes with 250 MB of combined .Mac Mail and iDisk storage. We want to say thank you for your past purchase of additional storage by immediately increasing your total storage to 1.2 GB for the duration of your current membership.
Pretty nice of them. And anybody who doubts .mac's value should do what I do for a living, where I literally have to exchange 40-60 meg files weekly with people. My designer was just working on a PDF which grew to 23MB. Too big for email, and having that iDisk meant the entire revision process was speeded up by weeks. My client (also a Mac user) just opened my iDisk and downloaded the PDF. Otherwise I'd need to FedEx CDs or deal with FTP which is just not as user-friendly for many people. Today I needed to get him a high res and he emailed me and said, "put it on the iDisk". I did so, emailed him back, and said "there it is". Bam (to quote Emeril)!. No muss, no fuss.
It's all about how you use the technology that matters. And the iDisk's desktop integration is a phenomenal part of the user experience.
What I want from .mac is the ability to turn off the spam filter. Until that can be disabled it can't be trusted.
Also they should clear out no longer used email addresses to give current subscibers the option to grab them. As it is there are hardly any good addresses left.
Also they should clear out no longer used email addresses to give current subscibers the option to grab them. As it is there are hardly any good addresses left.
asphalt-proof said:Who is your provider and where do you live?? Here in a small town in NC its pretty much $40 amonth for 512/256. Cable is not an option because Timewarner (Roadrunn er) told me that their service doesn't work with macs. Never really did anyt checking to confirm it though. even so, they are also $40 a month. I would throw down $30 in a heartbeat for bradband. Actually my wife would let me.
I'm in the Lexington, KY area. We have a different cable service here than Lexington, though (we have Adelphia, poor excuse for cable IMHO, LEX has Insight).
The cable deal is open to the public. My DSL ($25/mo) is an employee discount from my wife's job ;-), and it's $35 for everyone else (which I was paying up until recently). I've actually been thinking about jumping ship to cable for the faster downloads, but I'm not sure exactly how much faster they'd be, since it's a shared connection, and not a dedicated one like DSL. Then there's the security risks with the shared cable....
When my wife was living way out in the boonies before we got married, the only option for broadband was through Pegasus satellite (they provide DirectTV to rural areas), for $45/mo IIRC, and it was quite slow (256/56, I think). Don't know how the "up" part works with a satellite receiver, though.
iN8 said:
Yes, but all the email is addressed to a different email address, making it a snap to set up a mail filter to move the messages into another folder when they come in. You can name the folder "(person's) Inbox".
I kinda laugh when I talk to people who set up universal POP email addresses for the whole family (ie smithfamily@isp.com). I know the idea is to keep track of who the kids are talking to and such. But the parents eventually realize what a stupid idea it is. The kids get loads of email the parents don't like sorting through, the parents don't want their kids accidently deleting their email.
Mail aliases would allow email to be easily separated into separate folders without having to maintain lists of sender's email addresses in filters or set up separate account (or identities for all those Windows/OE users).
broken_keyboard said:
I second that. Give us more control. But I think they have backed off the spam filter a little lately, just two weeks ago I began recieving spam on my .Mac account on a regular basis, when before it was one or two emails every nine months. But I'm also getting topic reply notifications from some forums a hardly ever seemed to get any from (Macworld and Macrumors always came through).
SeaFox said:
I asked them if they could disable the spam filter and they said it could not be done on a per user basis. That sounds like a lack of imagination to me. If it is a rule-based filter they can simply add a rule not to filter when the To: field is my email address.
iN8 said:
Ok, thanks. Worked on the second attempt.
Shame "backup" files are not listed in the iDisk for easier recognition of space use.
Now I wonder what the easiest way is to have my key word folders synched to iDisk and thus synched offline...do I have to move them to iDisk...?
gskiser said:
well stated, that makes more sense then simply stating that its a joke. I always try to find the balance between cost/features. I pay for my dsl, which is $30 plus the .mac. And it all serves my needs just right. I use the email addresses provided with my dsl for my junk mail, online purchases crap as well as secondary for sending larger attachments (not going to need it as much now
) and I don't care about the icards or virex stuff either. Its the iphoto, isync, address book, book marks that I appreciate and use the most. After a long day in an edit bay, when I get home, I want it to be easy to upload stuff. To fried to think. gskiser said:
Apples to apples please...$99/year vs $516/year, or, $8.80/month vs $43/month.
While .mac is definitely a luxury and not a necessity, it is not overpriced if you use all of the features and you consider ease of use.
When it was iTools, it *was* a joke. As it is, I have used it and find it not so bad for the price of two DVD video rentals each month.
Just my 2cents...
denm316 said:
Aliases are pretty nice. But for $99 one should get multiple email accounts. Its insulting that they charge for additional email accounts on top of an already high price. The rest of .mac isn't so bad if you actually use it, except that they haven't actually done any development for it in a long time. Adding a shareware program every now and then doesn't seem like much value added.
The disk space increase is nice and needed. Still, 250MB is tiny. Its the equivalent of a floppy in todays storage world. In hard drive pricing, 250MB costs about $.50. Granted, a few good sized NetApp filers would cost more than that, but still.
They should drop the price to $49. Apple doesn't seem to understand or get that volume would make up for any decrease in margins. They never have. And why do I see another eWorld in the making?