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.Mac Storage Increase

zim said:
The only account that can have additional accounts, email only, is the main full account. You can not buy additional email only accounts under an email only account only under the full account... not sure if that answers your question.
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Not quite. :D
I was wondering whether you can have email aliases under the email only account, not other email only accounts. You do know that .mac lets you set up email aliases(email adresses that get sent to your main email adress when adressed) right? That's what I was asking for in the email only account.
 
I actually submitted this story before it was posted (Happy feeling inside)... anyway I use my .Mac account everyday and am thrilled about the increase in space. I just hope that the competition keeps upping their offerings so that Apple is driven to give us more.
 
macidiot said:
That whole shared connection argument is misleading. While its true that cable is sort of a "party line" set up, there is no real performance hit. In reality, the whole internet is a "party line" set up at some point. Cable just moves the sharing closer to the wall. But as long as the pipes are big enough, it shouldn't be an issue.

The typical downstream performance of cable blows the doors off of dsl. Most cable users see 2.5-4 Mbps down and usually 256kbps up. Compare that to an average of 768kbps for dsl. Cable is basically 3-5 times faster than dsl downstream. There's a reason cable modems are hugely more popular than dsl.

I suppose security is somewhat of an issue, but its basically the same if you have a router and firewall set up. I guess someone could sniff packets locally, but most of your important internet traffic(credit cards, passwords) are (hopefully) encrypted anyway. Besides, if you have a mac, your already protected against a lot of things.

As far as I can tell, the only reason to get dsl is if cable is unavailable or if you need the higher upstream of dsl. Even so, most cable companies will uncap the upstream for additional cost.
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There are plenty of reasons for having DSL, for example if your local cable provider (TW in my case) lost you as a customer forever due to rampant abysmal (i.e. monopoly) service when they were the only alternative to rabbit ears. I have been a happy DirecTV customer for years and will never go back to cable. That said, TW would be happy to run me a data-only line for $50-$60 per month. Yes, the theoretical throughput of cable is greater than DSL, but not worth it at that cost. I pay $34/mo. for 3Mb/384Kb DSL service from SBC. That's my story; many people seem to have their own. Growth rates for DSL have exceeded that for broadband cable for quite some time.
 
I used to like .Mac when it was free. However knowing that its expensive to offer everything these days, I still seem ripped off. Why can't apple offer a simple email service something basic like hotmail or yahoo for mac only people for example buy a new mac or buy the latest OS and get 5 basic .mac email accounts free none of the bells etc. If you are a internet junky and want the option of MORE storage and email space and attachments then I can see the need to charge for all the EXTRAs. I honestly dislike this, they give you a free service and BOOM one day its going to cost you.

If the basic .mac account email service has ads to generate money for the company so be it as long as its from companies like "canon, epson, etc" saying we have a new product you might be interested in taking a look at.

Seems all Apple has done is overcharge, the current .Mac solution is great for a newbie, however most of us have back-up HDD, DVD solutions etc. This seems like a nonsensical solution for all Mac users. :(

By getting someone to buy a new Mac or a new version of the OS and give them a Mac account would be great with 5 invites for family and friends who use the service. This is another way windows users will see how goo it is on the Mac side. Have some law that says that spamming from a .Mac account will result in legal action and keep the moochers away by only allowing them INVITES from a .Mac account holder.

Anyhow I just feel that is a better road than the one they have now.
 
Well, I decided to try .Mac since it's offered at a reduced price with new Macs, and I just bought an iMac. I'll give it a year and see if I think it's worth the price...
 
Get your renewal from Amazon

I just re-upped on .Mac, but I bought the "retail" box from Amazon for $79, instead of using the .Mac renewal button at $99.

Honestly, I think they should make renewal cheaper for multi-year users. A loyalty bonus would be good.

The increased storage was part of the reason I renewed. But mostly, I have big expectations about increased integration with iLife and Tiger, and I'm curious to see how that plays out over the next year.

Ah, the high price of early adoption.
 
macidiot said:
That whole shared connection argument is misleading. While its true that cable is sort of a "party line" set up, there is no real performance hit. In reality, the whole internet is a "party line" set up at some point. Cable just moves the sharing closer to the wall. But as long as the pipes are big enough, it shouldn't be an issue.

The typical downstream performance of cable blows the doors off of dsl. Most cable users see 2.5-4 Mbps down and usually 256kbps up. Compare that to an average of 768kbps for dsl. Cable is basically 3-5 times faster than dsl downstream. There's a reason cable modems are hugely more popular than dsl.

I suppose security is somewhat of an issue, but its basically the same if you have a router and firewall set up. I guess someone could sniff packets locally, but most of your important internet traffic(credit cards, passwords) are (hopefully) encrypted anyway. Besides, if you have a mac, your already protected against a lot of things.

As far as I can tell, the only reason to get dsl is if cable is unavailable or if you need the higher upstream of dsl. Even so, most cable companies will uncap the upstream for additional cost.
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I went with DSL for two reasons (before I got the discount): a friend of mine had cable at the time, and it did take a huge hit at peak times. Maybe it has something to do with the local cable system, and how loaded (or overloaded) it is. He also had problems with viruses & hack attempts (he's a M$ zealot...got what he deserved, I think).

Secondly, I know it's slower (my DSL is 1mb, vs. 2mb for the cheap cable), but when does this REALLY come into play? The only time it's really noticeable is when I go to download a CD image or something. 2mb is slow when dl'ing something that big, too!!! I have 100mb here at work (absolutely blistering rates during off-peak times), so I do have something MUCH faster to compare to.

For playing UT2004, dl'ing MP3's, *cough* movies, DSL serves me just fine. My ping on UT is usually 10-95, rarely over 100. Beats the pants off my old 56k modem, and all the other places I have been that had severely overloaded networks.
 
What a dumb thing to say, how can you compare .Mac to something that is not, and may never be, widely available. GMail has been in beta for over 1 year now and still no official release date.

Mudbug said:
well, it's not 1 GB like gmail and others, but it's a step in the right direction for Apple as far as the 'worth' of .mac to users.
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Good Value

Sure, it would be nice to have more storage, but what sites out there only charge $99 for what .Mac offers.

Its integration with the OS alone makes any so called premium worth paying. The ability to upload photos, sync calendars, store bookmarks, shop, and many other functions make it worth the money. In addtion to that, you get the software, which I know some may not use, but at least it is included.

You cannot expect something for nothing, even if that is the way you like to live.
 
Wingnuts

I haven't seen anyone mention this .Mac download yet. If yuou have you know how addictive it is. As far as free games go, Wingnuts is cool. Just below the level of a game you would expect to have to pay for. Just.
 
Ditto

munkle said:
A step in the right direction but a case of too little, too late.
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According to Apple's X-Serve website:

"Xserve RAID offers up to 3.5TB of high-performance redundant storage at just over $3 per gigabyte"
Reference

Money hungry *$%^%#'s!!

Take a hint.. way too little WAY too late... :eek:
 
iNetwork said:
According to Apple's X-Serve website:

"Xserve RAID offers up to 3.5TB of high-performance redundant storage at just over $3 per gigabyte"
Reference

Money hungry *$%^%#'s!!

Take a hint.. way too little WAY too late... :eek:
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You do realize there's a difference between cost/gigabyte of disk space and cost/gigabyte of web storage, don't you?

You've got to factor in costs of bandwidth, power, server maintenance, backups, etc.
 
iNetwork said:
According to Apple's X-Serve website:

"Xserve RAID offers up to 3.5TB of high-performance redundant storage at just over $3 per gigabyte"
Reference

Money hungry *$%^%#'s!!

Take a hint.. way too little WAY too late... :eek:
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Hey, you're right! Apple's ripping us off. After all, bandwidth, infrastructure, special deals, software development, and testing are all FREE. Apple's making $98.25 profit on every subscription - that's over 13,000% profit! :mad: :mad: :eek:

:rolleyes: :p
 
trisquel said:
Apples to apples please...$99/year vs $516/year, or, $8.80/month vs $43/month.

While .mac is definitely a luxury and not a necessity, it is not overpriced if you use all of the features and you consider ease of use.

When it was iTools, it *was* a joke. As it is, I have used it and find it not so bad for the price of two DVD video rentals each month.

Just my 2cents...:)
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Actually, you're not comparing Apples to apples. You're forgetting that the $99 .Mac doesn't include internet access. The $516/year includes broadband access at 3megs/sec downloads, along with 7x the storage space. Its not an either or. You have to pay for internet access...and then .Mac is on top of that.
 
Alias

ddbean said:
Maybe I missed something but isn't this what the FREE email alias is for? If you're given free alias, why would you need more addresses?
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Anyone here get the alias feature to work? It keeps sending me in an endless loop, rejecting all possible aliases, including the ones it suggests!
 
Xtremehkr said:
I haven't seen anyone mention this .Mac download yet. If you have you know how addictive it is. As far as free games go, Wingnuts is cool. Just below the level of a game you would expect to have to pay for. Just.
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Yeah I downloaded it a while back, that's probably the best part of .Mac for me.

bankshot said:
Apple's making $98.25 profit on every subscription - that's over 13,000% profit!
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Perhaps they're making up for the 0% profit margin on the iTMS :p

And finally, I love the email aliases; so far I have got these ones:
  • john_ashcroft@mac.com
  • dick_cheney@mac.com
  • colin_powell@mac.com
  • donald_rumsfeld@mac.com
  • paul_wolfowitz@mac.com
 
Diatribe said:
Not quite. :D
I was wondering whether you can have email aliases under the email only account, not other email only accounts. You do know that .mac lets you set up email aliases(email adresses that get sent to your main email adress when adressed) right? That's what I was asking for in the email only account.
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At the time, I did not know that you could have aliases under a full account or aliases at all. After reading, I learned that you can have aliases under a full account, neat idea, but you can not have aliases under an email only account.

HEHE... :D
 
Wardofsky said:
Yeah I downloaded it a while back, that's probably the best part of .Mac for me.



Perhaps they're making up for the 0% profit margin on the iTMS :p

And finally, I love the email aliases; so far I have got these ones:
  • john_ashcroft@mac.com
  • dick_cheney@mac.com
  • colin_powell@mac.com
  • donald_rumsfeld@mac.com
  • paul_wolfowitz@mac.com
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hehe... when you create an alias, does it have to be unique to anything out there? might be a stupid question, maybe I should just test it out.
 
zim said:
hehe... when you create an alias, does it have to be unique to anything out there? might be a stupid question, maybe I should just test it out.
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Yes it does have to be unique. It is just like a regular email adress with the only difference being that it comes through your regular account.

By the way, didn't you have a tar yesterday, or am I getting Alzheimer?
 
Rower_CPU said:
You do realize there's a difference between cost/gigabyte of disk space and cost/gigabyte of web storage, don't you?

You've got to factor in costs of bandwidth, power, server maintenance, backups, etc.
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The sad thing is Apple doesn't backup your data, so this does not really count.



For those who haven't seen it.... Here's an example of how cheap things CAN be:

In Germany, Austria and Switzerland there is a service that offers FOR FREE:
- 1GB storage for email AND files
- 2 email adresses
- 20MB attachments
- with small ads
- online adress book, etc.

And for 4,99€ you get the following:
- 10GB of storage
- 50MB attachments
- 15 adresses
- no ads
- online adress book, etc.

Now if that only had the integration of .mac it would rule my world.
Just to advertise what CAN be done. The integration is what keeps me with .mac. But do I think it's way overpriced? Hell yes.

To offer a solution from the iLife thread that I made; Give the yearly iLife to .mac subscribers for free. Now that'd be a deal a lot of people could live with. And on top it would show Apple's widely proclaimed integration.
Or have two options $49 for the stuff they offer right now and $99 for the 1GB one. This would still be overpriced but THAT would be a step in the right direction.
 
fithian said:
Anyone here get the alias feature to work? It keeps sending me in an endless loop, rejecting all possible aliases, including the ones it suggests!
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Hmm...interesting. The first alias I tried worked and is now active.
 
Diatribe said:
Yes it does have to be unique. It is just like a regular email adress with the only difference being that it comes through your regular account.

By the way, didn't you have a tar yesterday, or am I getting Alzheimer?
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Nope, not me. Maybe Zimv2.0?

Okay so unique aliases... I am still yet to try it because I can't think of any names to use so here is another question. Can you, and I see you can turn them off, delete an alias?
 
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