FYI ... the beta version right before they gave us Windows98 was referred to as Windows97
as I said earlier troll ... go back to the Acer Forums if you want to act like "mr windows I know everything"
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FYI ... the beta version right before they gave us Windows98 was referred to as Windows97
as I said earlier troll ... go back to the Acer Forums if you want to act like "mr windows I know everything"
I had used windows since I was about 8 or so. I've been using windows for about 9-10 years and also linux for about 3-4 years. I switched in 2009 to a 15.4" Unibody Macbook pro after wanting a mac for 2 years or so. My HP Laptop finally died and I went out and bought one.
I was happy at first, actually more along the lines of joyous about my purchase. That went on for about 5 months or so. I'm a geek/nerd so everyone (friends and family) comes to me with their computer problems. Then, when people were coming up to me about needing help, I had realized that I had forgotten quite a bit of my computer knowledge. I could still help with most every day-to-day problems though I had forgotten a lot of the stuff that I had picked up from linux and windows.
Honestly, I hate my purchase 1.5 years later. Apple is to controlling about their products and it is a pain to get linux to run well on here. It was up until a few months ago, you could not run Windows 7 on it because the audio levels sucked and the fans didn't work to well (due to Apple not releasing the right drivers).
In my opinion, if you want a computer that "just works" and that's about it then you should get a mac. However, you should know that you are paying more for the name of the product then you are for the hardware. If you want a laptop with more power I say buy a windows based machine.
I'm currently running Windows 7 and OSX on my computer though Windows 7 has the majority of the HDD space. It really is amazing, isn't it? I used to despise Windows those last few years that I had it. Of course I had Vista so that didn't really help though now Windows is what I want to use. I must say though that I did somewhat like Windows when I was using the Windows 7 beta. I can say though that I still have not relearned most of the computer knowledge that I had lost.
I was happy at first, actually more along the lines of joyous about my purchase. That went on for about 5 months or so. I'm a geek/nerd so everyone (friends and family) comes to me with their computer problems. Then, when people were coming up to me about needing help, I had realized that I had forgotten quite a bit of my computer knowledge. I could still help with most every day-to-day problems though I had forgotten a lot of the stuff that I had picked up from linux and windows.
Honestly, I hate my purchase 1.5 years later. Apple is to controlling about their products and it is a pain to get linux to run well on here. It was up until a few months ago, you could not run Windows 7 on it because the audio levels sucked and the fans didn't work to well (due to Apple not releasing the right drivers).
In my opinion, if you want a computer that "just works" and that's about it then you should get a mac. However, you should know that you are paying more for the name of the product then you are for the hardware. If you want a laptop with more power I say buy a windows based machine.
I'm currently running Windows 7 and OSX on my computer though Windows 7 has the majority of the HDD space. It really is amazing, isn't it? I used to despise Windows those last few years that I had it. Of course I had Vista so that didn't really help though now Windows is what I want to use. I must say though that I did somewhat like Windows when I was using the Windows 7 beta. I can say though that I still have not relearned most of the computer knowledge that I had lost.
Guess you're not big on virtualization? I find it easier to just run Linux as a VM when I need it rather than having a full blown Linux partition... Linux has far too many issues IMO that prevents it from ever becoming a mainstream OS. There's always been distros that are promising but ultimately don't quite pan out, Linux patching is a nightmare (tons and tons of packages constantly needing updates), etc. With a VM, its easier to try out something and nuke the VM and start over is easy too.
FYI ... the beta version right before they gave us Windows98 was referred to as Windows97
as I said earlier troll ... go back to the Acer Forums if you want to act like "mr windows I know everything"
that is true. My brother worked at a company called KAO (or KOA) they were contracted by MS and others manufactures to print Windows disks. There was a significant size run of Windows 97 disks manufactured.
But the public release was windows 98.
Honestly no. I've definitely given it multiple chances though VMWare (and there's another one though I don't remember it right now) seems to be a more "try before you dedicate" option. I don't see how it's easier to use as it takes much longer to boot-up and I have never had problems with getting linux to work on any computer that I've used (except on macs). Of course there have been a few times where I have had to reinstall linux because I had ****ed something up though it hasn't been that often and it teaches me not to do it again.
I was quite pleased when I started seeing some computer manufactures ship linux os on their laptops in hopes that linux would become more mainstream though I knew that it probably wouldn't because people don't like change. Though there is hope that linux will become "the poor man's version of OSX" (yes, it is though to a certain extent) when 10.7 comes out and they have their app repositories. At least people will "know" how to install applications on linux as well (which has been the main problem that I have found with people who have tried linux). One can hope
Hrm, it's been about 8 months since I purchased my Sony F series laptop, and that's the first time in 9 years I've bought a Windows machine to use as a primary computer.
Initially, I regretted it. Sony the Apple of the PC world? But.. but.. the plastic doesn't align perfectly, and you can even see the rubber screen bumpers! Yea right! lol.
Yea, I gotta say, that was a jarring experience!
8 months later, and after all sorts of crazy experiments I have to say it's been pretty cool, and there are things about Windows that I wish Apple would considering doing with OS X (like the picture management.. geez iPhoto is a piece of crap beyond description).
There's about as many things I wish MS would fix (like keeping installers/updaters/uninstallers from stealing focus, and killing off the NEED for an installer/uninstaller).
I can't say I've "switched" or anything, I might very well just go buy another Mac (like, a Mac Pro or a 27" iMac), because I'd really love to have one for my desk! Hrmm.. or not? We'll see.
Initially, I regretted it. Sony the Apple of the PC world? But.. but.. the plastic doesn't align perfectly, and you can even see the rubber screen bumpers! Yea right! lol.
Yea, I gotta say, that was a jarring experience!
8 months later, and after all sorts of crazy experiments I have to say it's been pretty cool, and there are things about Windows that I wish Apple would considering doing with OS X (like the picture management.. geez iPhoto is a piece of crap beyond description).
There's about as many things I wish MS would fix (like keeping installers/updaters/uninstallers from stealing focus, and killing off the NEED for an installer/uninstaller).
I can't say I've "switched" or anything, I might very well just go buy another Mac (like, a Mac Pro or a 27" iMac), because I'd really love to have one for my desk! Hrmm.. or not? We'll see.
Too much passion....
Me? I purchased an HP DV6TSE. It has a 15.6" LCD at 1366x768, Core i5 2.26GHz processor (with TB to 2.8GHz), 6GB DDR3 memory, a 640GB 7200RPM HDD, switchable Intel HD/ATI HD 5470 with 512MB RAM, 4 USB ports (1 shared with eSATA) plus a VGA port and an HDMI port, backlit keyboard and I can share my video with my TV over WiFi if I use a $99 companion box for my TV. Oh yeah, it also has a fingerprint reader.
Phew.... nice machine brand new for $750 huh?
I'm in the process of returning it (still within my 21 day grace period) and I have already ordered a MacBook Pro 13" (C2D @ 2.4GHz) with 4GB RAM and a 250GB HDD from MacConnection for $1,049 (after rebate). Go figure.
On specs, the 13" MBP is an overpriced POS. It is. You cannot get around that fact. The 15" MBP is even worse. But, on user experience, yes, to me, it's a better device than the HP I am returning.
I do corporate IT purchasing for a living. So I piss away more money in any one day on tech than most people do all year. So very little impresses me when I see PC vs. Mac debates. It's just another holy war. The outcomes are rarely different.
Define "better" and I'll draw you a roadmap to happiness. I could buy two HPs as listed above and a low level iPad for the price of one comparably spec'd out 15" MBP. That's nuts. But for some people, the value judgement rules. It doesn't make them dumb, it means they have more money to use on other things that make them happy (hopefully). For me, I've grown tired of maintaining my PCs. I'll still run Windows 7 via Parallels for those apps that I have to and I'll still run my Core 2 Quad Win 7 desktop with my dual 24" monitors when I want to relax at my desk.
But when I'm mobile and I want a reliable device with a good battery life, my new 13" MBP will be my new "best decision I've made in a while".
Me? I purchased an HP DV6TSE. It has a 15.6" LCD at 1366x768, Core i5 2.26GHz processor (with TB to 2.8GHz), 6GB DDR3 memory, a 640GB 7200RPM HDD, switchable Intel HD/ATI HD 5470 with 512MB RAM, 4 USB ports (1 shared with eSATA) plus a VGA port and an HDMI port, backlit keyboard and I can share my video with my TV over WiFi if I use a $99 companion box for my TV. Oh yeah, it also has a fingerprint reader.
Phew.... nice machine brand new for $750 huh?
I'm in the process of returning it (still within my 21 day grace period) and I have already ordered a MacBook Pro 13" (C2D @ 2.4GHz) with 4GB RAM and a 250GB HDD from MacConnection for $1,049 (after rebate). Go figure.
On specs, the 13" MBP is an overpriced POS. It is. You cannot get around that fact. The 15" MBP is even worse. But, on user experience, yes, to me, it's a better device than the HP I am returning.
I do corporate IT purchasing for a living. So I piss away more money in any one day on tech than most people do all year. So very little impresses me when I see PC vs. Mac debates. It's just another holy war. The outcomes are rarely different.
Define "better" and I'll draw you a roadmap to happiness. I could buy two HPs as listed above and a low level iPad for the price of one comparably spec'd out 15" MBP. That's nuts. But for some people, the value judgement rules. It doesn't make them dumb, it means they have more money to use on other things that make them happy (hopefully). For me, I've grown tired of maintaining my PCs. I'll still run Windows 7 via Parallels for those apps that I have to and I'll still run my Core 2 Quad Win 7 desktop with my dual 24" monitors when I want to relax at my desk.
But when I'm mobile and I want a reliable device with a good battery life, my new 13" MBP will be my new "best decision I've made in a while".
+1
I have my Win 7 and Linux VM's running on VMware Fusion 3, and from a suspended state it takes less than 30 seconds to power up.