Exactly. Nothing in this MR article proves to me that they are the same SoC. They are two SoCs named the same. The rest will have to wait for teardowns or other news releases.
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MacBook Air and MacBook Pro M1 Chips Have Same 8-Core CPUs, No Upgrades Available
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finally ill replace my i7 AIR 2013 .. to M1
camera sucks but i dont use it... i love the fanless, 8core
camera sucks but i dont use it... i love the fanless, 8core
Did a quick test on a trade in - Apple says it will pay me $1,400 for a 2019 iMac i5 with 512GB.
Yeah no thanks...
Yeah no thanks...
The difference in performance between those devices is going to be due to passive vs. active cooling.
Possibly, The Pro has better battery life, because of bigger batteries and higher weight. And don’t forget the fans on the Pro will allow the M1 to perform better, at higher frequencies than the Air
I should cancel my order for this alone. Dammit! I should've gone with the Air. Unlike ya'll I wanted the touchbar. Don't ask. I just like shiny useless things, I guess.
If I had to I would go with the Air. I'm not sure why the PRO needs a fan and the Air doesn't? I have a mini and was looking at that. I don't like the fact the RAM is not upgradeable again except by Apple when you first buy. What is up with that?
Really embarrassing. My crappy 5 years old Dell laptop from work puts the MacBook camera to shame. „Wait, let me get my flashlight so you can see more than a purple shadow on the screen“
Was my main reason for choosing Air also
Exactly what I was thinking.
Apple had yield issues. Engineers freaking out "how we gonna fix this". Management like we'll sell both... a downclocked and disabled core version on the Air for the bad yield batches, and then make people pay more for the good yields. Next.
Seems likely. When people refer to Intel processors these days, they typically just use the general name like Ice Lake or Coffee Lake etc. That doesn't mean that all the chips using that general name run at the same clock speeds.
Looking forward to real world tests.
Yeah this still blows my mind years and years later with everything getting better, they STILL leave the ****** 720p camera in these laptops. Calling a MacBook "Pro" with a 720p FT camera is just BS. I know it's because the screen is so thin but damn, figure it out already.
Simple. The fan provides better cooling, the better cooling allows for more sustained CPU usage / less throttling down under load.
Air is aimed for folks with brief & bursty workoads.
Pro is aimed for folks with workloads which are sustained.
I don't think it ever will be again as it's all part of the System on a Chip now
I'll be curious to know how much the performance on the pro is improved with the active cooling. I doubt it will make much difference in regular use and only be noticeable on sustained intensive tasks like encoding videos or playing games. One problem I'm seeing on the apple site is there is no really good way to compare the air vs the pro. For instance, are the displays the same? The pro page talks about brightness, the air page doesn't.
Remember also, with modern Apple, "Pro" is short for "Profit"
I think were so used to Intel being so hot that this is the only thing we can think of. These are two different machines with two different purposes. The Air focusing on lower end tasks, the Pro .. obviously on higher end.
It's the same concept as the old model except we're not worrying about Ghz ratings, etc. The idea that we can just abandon that mindset is really nice. I think this is a good model to move forward with, less to be concerned about.