MacBook Air and MacBook Pro M1 Chips Have Same 8-Core CPUs, No Upgrades Available

[leman]

Yea the touch bar was a waste but then again..they were not going for a redesign anyways. I still dont see the difference between the air and pro

The pro is going to be 20-40% faster here and there due to active cooling, it has bigger battery, better display and the Touch Bar. There is your differentiation.

 

[Populus]

Will that single GPU core be noticeable? I wonder if having just 7 cores might contribute to lower temperatures...

 

[UltimateSyn]

MacBook Air honestly blew me away during its presentation.

 

[dannys1]

Can I get leaker status yet and be cited as an “in the know”?

No 13” to start with - there are two 13” MBP models at the moment, 8th gen Intel Processors and 10th gen. The 10th gen will still be the top end 13” MBP, then entry level 8th gen will be replaced with AS.

Next year the 14” MBP will replace the 10th Gen Intel models. I suspect the entry level 13” MBP with AS will stay around as a cheaper option like it currently is.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed.2265184/page-5?post=29155239#post-29155239

They won’t, this story is wrong. 16” MBP will be an Intel refresh. There will be two lower end 13” MacBooks with Apple Silicon, and top end 13” MacBook Pro with Intel will stay too.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...e-silicon-chips-updated.2265184/post-29155009

Apart from the premium 13” Intel MBP will still exist - the AS is only replacing the entry level models.

Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]

Apart from the premium 13” Intel MBP will still exist - the AS is only replacing the entry level models.

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A mixture of what the leakers who can be trusted have said, what we’ve seen in Big Sur code and common sense about where they actually will be in the Apple Silicon line.

I’ll give you £200 if Intel aren’t still the top end 13” and 16” MBP after the 10th November. The lower end 13” MBP was left untouched in the summer still using Intel 8th Gen processors so it could be upgraded first. It all makes sense form both a PR, business, econmics and customer service stand point. Apple aren’t going to replace 6 month old machines with new ones and chips that beat the top end of what Intel have to offer (and specifically graphics) wont be ready yet.

Also they can introduce the low end machines into the market where they have the advantage (power efficiency) and the uptake helps get all the apps converted over so when the more serious machines do arrive the system is more mature from a software stand point too. The 16” is likely to become Apple Silicon when it’s refreshed with Mini LED probably around this time next year - and they won’t want to be selling the same 16” MBP from November 2019 by then, hence a small Intel refresh for the 16” MBP 2020.

Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]

A mixture of what the leakers who can be trusted have said, what we’ve seen in Big Sur code and common sense about where they actually will be in the Apple Silicon line. I’ll give you £200 if Intel aren’t still the top end 13” and 16” MBP after the 10th November. The lower end 13” MBP was left...

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[TravelsInBlue]

Good yield -> Pro


Bad Yield -> Air

 

[Diode]

I may end up buying one of these two. The only difference is the lack of a Touch Bar and slightly lower battery life on the Air?

Im wondering the same thing. Display in pro is slightly nicer but unsure if thats worth the price hike

 

[cpnotebook80]

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THIS IS A JOKE!!
pure, undenaible JOKE 🤣🤣LOL 😂

only two ports on pro?? So we just buy more eco-friendly adapters?? or is it just another "lower-end" Pro with touch bar so boomers can show off in starbucks..??

I liked how to told us how they are using AI to improve image quality of the camera without saying if it was 1080p..and I was like..yep...still old camera..not sure what the ipad pros have since i don't have one.

 

[CheesePuff]

$300 buys you a fan to prevent thermal throttling.

and longer battery life, brighter display, better speakers

 

[UltimateSyn]

Can I get leaker status yet and be cited as an “in the know”?

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed.2265184/page-5?post=29155239#post-29155239

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...e-silicon-chips-updated.2265184/post-29155009

Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]

Apart from the premium 13” Intel MBP will still exist - the AS is only replacing the entry level models.

forums.macrumors.com

Apple Event to Include 13-Inch MacBook Pro, 16-Inch MacBook Pro, and 13-Inch MacBook Air With Apple Silicon Chips [Updated]

A mixture of what the leakers who can be trusted have said, what we’ve seen in Big Sur code and common sense about where they actually will be in the Apple Silicon line. I’ll give you £200 if Intel aren’t still the top end 13” and 16” MBP after the 10th November. The lower end 13” MBP was left...

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Dang. Kudos, honestly. Nice call.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

Looks like the $999 air has 1 fewer gpu core than the rest of them. So not the same.

 

[Blackstick]

Quite frankly, I'm surprised they even let us spec the RAM...

 

[ph001bi]

The newly announced MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models that Apple announced today are equipped with the same 8-core M1 chip that also offers an integrated GPU, with Apple offering no CPU upgrades.

There is, however, a GPU upgrade available for the MacBook Air. By default, the MacBook Air ships with an M1 chip with a 7-core GPU, while the MacBook Pro has the same M1 chip with an 8-core GPU.

If you choose the $1,249 MacBook Air model with a 512GB SSD, it upgrades to an 8-core GPU instead of the default 7-core GPU, but there is no custom configuration option to choose the lower tier model with the upgraded 8-core GPU option.

Both the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro can be customized with more RAM and more storage space. The Mac mini also has the same M1 chip with 8-core GPU as the MacBook Pro with no GPU/CPU upgrade option available. The new models are available today and will start shipping out next week.

Article Link: MacBook Air and MacBook Pro M1 Chips Have Same 8-Core CPUs, No Upgrades Available

I'll have to be "that guy", I am afraid. Why can't the MacBook Pro support 32GB?

 

[urbanmacUser]

Yea the touch bar was a waste but then again..they were not going for a redesign anyways. I still dont see the difference between the air and pro or clock speeds or gpu type compared to amd 5500m etc etc..except the pro having touch bar, fan and touch id...weight almost same..

Waste? I run my day using the touch. BetterTouchBar and Keyboard Maestro and its pretty amazing what you can do with it.

 

[Samuel Sosa]

Interesting way to structure the lineup. I'm honestly surprised there isn't a little bit more to differentiate the Pro from the Air (no ProMotion ) but I can see a clear direction to the structure. Likely an M2 or M1X coming next year to replace the Intel chips in the high-end 13" and 16" MBPs.

I was thinking the same thing!

 

[V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r]

Let's hope next year 16" MacBook Pro model will have a discrete GPU based on AMD's next-gen 6000M series. Honestly I don't believe that Apple GPU, even in its next interation, can come close to current Radeon Pro 5500M for example...

 

[Jaro65]

Why only 2 Thunderbolt ports though?

 

[FreeWoRLD83]

My guess is the Air will be throttled in case a certain temperature reached and pro won’t be prone to that. They mentioned on the pro, we’d be enjoying the full speed at all times *or something similar

 

[ervingv]

720p camera

I still don't understand why Apple can't upgrade this camera. The iPads and iPhones have better front facing cameras.

 

[myrtlebee]

Does this MBA have the same screen as the new MBP?

 

[JPack]

I don't really understand why the pro is more expensive and needs a fan. Higher frequency?

Performance is thermally limited and is true whether you talk about iPhone, iPad, or Mac.

 

[rme]

MBP looks great. 2.8 x faster than the 13" MBP with a 1.7GHz quad‑core i7
They tested this with Xcode,Ninja, and CMake
If we see that 2.8 x increase in GB5 too, we get >10000

 

[Nozuka]

Quite frankly, I'm surprised they even let us spec the RAM...

Until you see how much they are asking for it... and then it makes sense

 

[UltimateSyn]

I still don't understand why Apple can't upgrade this camera. The iPads and iPhones have better front facing cameras.

The bodies of iPads and iPhones are significantly thicker than the MacBook lids

 

[CrazyForApple]

I like the sound of that

 

[Sebosz]

I don't really understand why the pro is more expensive and needs a fan. Higher frequency?

Will last longer before throttling