Actually, no. Most people are complaining about the fact that there might not be one.
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Actually, no. Most people are complaining about the fact that there might not be one.
I have to agree, and to the original poster Maklinn, I have to say that
Is a bit naive and condescending, especially considering the educational market, most courses in sound or audio are done using macs, either with Logic or Pro Tools. That's a lot of students who need a laptop, and preferably with FW so they can get a quality audio interface to go with it.
Plus the notion that the word "PRO" means that there's no limitation on ones budget is a little daft.
I vote for a port that cooks hotdogs. Just have it supply some current with two probes that go in each end (one in each end that is).
Tapered case
the case still could end up being tapered like the Air. Not tapered down to such a small edge as in the Air, but tapered down to the edge that we're seeing in these photos. We haven't seen the screen or the bottom of the case, and these are the parts that would show the taper that we saw in this spy shot. So basically, the bottom of the case would bulge out, although I think someone measured and found that even the thickest part was still thinner than the current MBP. The taper still manages to make it LOOK a lot thinner than the MBP, and Apple's been doing perception tricks like that for decades.
I'm betting this photo is legit, those ports probably just barely fit along that edge and were obviously the limiting factor in the degree of that taper.
the case still could end up being tapered like the Air. Not tapered down to such a small edge as in the Air, but tapered down to the edge that we're seeing in these photos. We haven't seen the screen or the bottom of the case, and these are the parts that would show the taper that we saw in this spy shot. So basically, the bottom of the case would bulge out, although I think someone measured and found that even the thickest part was still thinner than the current MBP. The taper still manages to make it LOOK a lot thinner than the MBP, and Apple's been doing perception tricks like that for decades.
I'm betting this photo is legit, those ports probably just barely fit along that edge and were obviously the limiting factor in the degree of that taper.
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What some of you need to understand is FW is pretty much dead. Or at least a rarity anymore. Especially if they include USB 3.0. But as far as FW, I haven't used in over three years. Nor has anyone that I know, except my brother. And the only reason he has used it is for a first generation iPod. Which is now at the bottom of a junk drawer.
I understand some people still use it, but no one is forcing you to buy a new MB. Like the guy that asked if Apple was going to buy him all new equipment if he buys a new MB. Why would Apple need to do that? It's not their decision as to whether you buy a new MB. Are they threatening you with a lawsuit if you don't?
I have plenty of obsolete technology. Get over it. There are plenty of notebooks that don't include FW anymore. And if you want it, you need to fork over the money to get it.
I understand some people still use it, but no one is forcing you to buy a new MB. Like the guy that asked if Apple was going to buy him all new equipment if he buys a new MB. Why would Apple need to do that? It's not their decision as to whether you buy a new MB. Are they threatening you with a lawsuit if you don't?
I have plenty of obsolete technology. Get over it. There are plenty of notebooks that don't include FW anymore. And if you want it, you need to fork over the money to get it.
Im still thinking theres GOING to be firewire, i cant believe theres nearly 2000 posts across 2 threads about it... calm down!
We will find out tommorow, and there will be firewire!
Dont moan until you know about it!
If apple doesnt include FW, then moan about it, 1,000,000 posts of it, i dont care
We will find out tommorow, and there will be firewire!
Dont moan until you know about it!
If apple doesnt include FW, then moan about it, 1,000,000 posts of it, i dont care
I think you've got it right. Like with graphics, MacBook just isn't good enough for it.
I was referring to the fingerprint reader providing all security (sometimes even replacing passwords). I agree it might have sounded as if it was always easy, sorry for that.
well, personally, the hdmi port would be relatively useful because it would eliminate the monitors in my house. why have another monitor, when you could just have a tv with a larger screen. that allows for a more integrated entertainment system, and a better experience in my opinion. i think that people will go for it.
but with esata, i think that we have ways to go before the majority of perifs. are nuilt in with esata. its been somewhat overlooked in some things like printers. and ethernet is overpowering right now. and from my experinces, the connectors are very fragile.
I'm guessing that taper could also help with ventilation when it's sitting on a flat surface. Does the air have any vents along the taper?
There seems to be a lot of people here who use Firewire, but I am sure there are a lot that don't. I fall into the latter category. I used to use it for a video cam, but since that died I have not used it at all. I have friends the same (none of them musicians mind) who don't use it all. But they don't have mac's though. Well in another 24 I guess we'll find out!!!
What we are looking at may be JUST the $799 MacBook (that doesn't have firewire). Visualize it this way
13":
$799 - No firewire
$899 - Same specs + slightly better video/0.1 Ghz processor upgrade + firewire
$999 - ^ Same spec + HDD space + RAM
And so on...
13":
$799 - No firewire
$899 - Same specs + slightly better video/0.1 Ghz processor upgrade + firewire
$999 - ^ Same spec + HDD space + RAM
And so on...
There seems to be a lot of people here who use Firewire, but I am sure there are a lot that don't. I fall into the latter category. I used to use it for a video cam, but since that died I have not used it at all. I have friends the same (none of them musicians mind) who don't use it all. But they don't have mac's though. Well in another 24 I guess we'll find out!!!
A lot of the fuss is because most of the people who like and use FW actually believe deep down that Apple are capable of nixing it in a new consumer model.
I know I do.
Like I said, someone measured that pic in a previous thread, and found that it was still thinner than the current MBP even at the fattest part. And I'll bet it would look really thin if seen from typical laptop viewing angle, (as in from above, not directly side-on). That's the way it works with the Air. When Jobs first showed it off, you can see he made a point of showing it at an angle that made it look impossibly thin.
Sort of like how the new Jaguar XK was designed with a taper to the nose and tail, so that if you see it from an angle, it looks like there's no rear or front overhang at all.
No. An I/O port is a significant modification, and means a completely different case and internal design, they're not going to add that as a $100 option, it makes absolutely no sense.
At best, if they decide they'll have a 15" macbook you might find an FW port on the 15", but if there is no FW on the base 13" macbook you won't find it on any of the 13".
Dead! What planet are you on, just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's obsolete.
I don't use HDMI, therefore it must be dead, Bah!
I'll repeat again, Audio and Video = Firewire.
Apple make some of the best Audio and Video software, for them to get rid of a standard they created on their consumer devices would be a cheapshot to many users who've invested in FW devices.
All though I do think that part of FW not having as much market share was Apples daft decision to differentiate FW400 and FW800 between their consumer and pro lines.
I'd heard about the express cards having problems, I guess in an ideal world Apple would offer their Pro computers with multiple FW busses, rather that just multiple ports, but I doubt that's going to happen.
But saying that doesn't USB run over 2 busses, at least on my Dual G5 it does?
What you need to understand that while FW might be 'obsolete' for general consumer peripherals (and even that's a stretch), it's the de-facto standard for all data-intensive media applications. I'd say that makes it vital technology, especially considering Apple's long courtship with the content-creation market. A bloody ton of media professionals that have pro machines at work have consumer-level machines (macbooks) at home, and these are the same people who make purchasing decisions for studios.
Apple may be frustrating, and not everyone always gets to have what they want in a machine as technology changes, but until a remotely viable replacement for FW in media devices comes out, please don't try to convince me that the people working at Apple are actually retarded enough to deem FW obsolete.