Anyone know how this solution (never heard of it until today) compares in speed with a regular FW 400 port?
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MacBook and MacBook Pro Port Speculation
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Anyone know how this solution (never heard of it until today) compares in speed with a regular FW 400 port?
You forgot to mention one more thing.
Firewire is more expensive to put on a board than USB. If they do kill it, it is for a reason. How many people use the SCSI connector on their laptops or dekstops anymore. Firewire has a life cycle, we are just lucky enough to be living through it.
HDMI port FTW
The way i see it is that we havnt seen the true Pro yet.
The macbook will have 2 levels:
$800 Which we have seen and has no firewire, 13" screen.
$1400 Which is the other one we have seen and has firewire, 15" screen
and we havnt seen the true pro's yet which will be $2000+
The macbook will have 2 levels:
$800 Which we have seen and has no firewire, 13" screen.
$1400 Which is the other one we have seen and has firewire, 15" screen
and we havnt seen the true pro's yet which will be $2000+
You have it reversed. It's Ethernet over Firewire, not the other way around; hence FW is a poor man's version of Ethernet. Sorry but neither FW nor GigE are going anywhere.
FW Over Ethernet is specced at 400/800 speeds. So it would be faster then Firewire 400, but still compatible. To me this solution makes the most sense and is a very clean way of doing it.
This photo of the presumed MacBook enclosure shows the following ports from (right to left): Magsafe, Ethernet, USB 1, USB 2, Video Out, Audio Jack, Headphones.
You've missed a port out there.
It looks to go, from right to left: Magsafe, Ethernet, USB, USB, Video Out, Audio In, Audio Out, Kensington Lock Slot, Unidentified Port.
Both the MacBook and the MacBook Pro appear to have an as-yet unidentified port which is slightly larger than the audio jack but similar in appearance (er, round). The MacBook Pro also has what could be a port under the tape.
This mysterious extra port on both machines is unlikely to be the IR receiver, since if you happened to be sitting on the right side of your notebook your remote wouldn't work. We also haven't seen any images of the front edge of the computers, where the receiver and the sleep indicator LED are most likely to be situated.
Tuesday will be very interesting.
From wikipedia:
"IEEE 1394c-2006 was published on June 8, 2007.
It provides the following improvements
A new port specification which provides 800 Mbit/s over the same RJ45 connectors with Category 5e cable which is specified in IEEE 802.3 clause 40"
so it's equal to FW800
It's both true ethernet and firewire. It auto switches on the port depending what is plugged in.
It would be too clunky to the low end user having a FW 800, FW 400, and Ethernet port all slapped on the side of the Macbook Case. So for the sake of keeping it pretty, you put all 3 functions on 1 port! Clean and Consumer Friendly.
IEEE 1394c-2006 (Firewire S800T) is about twice as fast as Firewire 400, same as Firewire 800, only with an RJ45 jack and Cat 5e cable, like IEEE 1394b-2002 before it, I assume it's backwards compatible with 1394a and 1394b, it didn't exactly change much.
Sebastian
Um, I think that round "port" is just a place for a screw.
It's not better than Ethernet, and personally I'd prefer to have those 2 ports consolidated, but as far as I know no one has actually built a dual Ethernet/Firewire chipset based off of IEEE 1394c-2006, and there's no way of knowing if Apple is actually going to adopt it from these photos, so we'll have to wait till Tuesday.
But I don't want to lose Firewire either, I keep a couple of OS X installations on Firewire drives, booting from the DVD is worthless since the Disk Utility on my 10.5.0 install discs is way too buggy to partition my local HDD, and it's nice to have around for maintenance in case I frack my main install.
Sebastian
Yes, HDMI port
It is an HDMI port. Not DVI - DVI is video - and bigger (even mini-DVI) than HDMI which supports BOTH Audio and Video at that same time. So why then adapter for DVI to HDMI when SOUND will STILL NOT come through the adapter - you will need a separate cable - and it the MBP has Blue-Ray - IT WILL BE HDMI.
It is an HDMI port. Not DVI - DVI is video - and bigger (even mini-DVI) than HDMI which supports BOTH Audio and Video at that same time. So why then adapter for DVI to HDMI when SOUND will STILL NOT come through the adapter - you will need a separate cable - and it the MBP has Blue-Ray - IT WILL BE HDMI.
MacBook case also has the misterious port
I can't believe nobody realized that what is supposed to be the MacBook case also has this port, if you see the pictute inside, you can clearly see the 2 screws and the port holes, it's just my imagination or anybody else sees it?
I can't believe nobody realized that what is supposed to be the MacBook case also has this port, if you see the pictute inside, you can clearly see the 2 screws and the port holes, it's just my imagination or anybody else sees it?
I once connected a MacBook to my iMac with ethernet cable (both gigabit ethernet), the transfer speed was blazingly fast! Put firewire 400 to shame. Ethernet should be easily capable of handling firewire transfer speeds. Any such ethernet>firewire adapters exist?
Could be either, both use a very similar port outline.
HDMI as a lot of data and home theatre projectors offer it now?
Or, eSATA as it is becoming a lot more common on external hard drives?
I hope it's eSata, I use external HDD's for HD video editing and I'd love eSata on a MBP. I already wished they'd had it for my iMac 24" I bought in April. FW800 is great but when the files are really big.... we're never happy!
Yes, it has been noticed. The problem is there's nothing on the outside of the case in this area... so unless there are two different cases prototypes in the pictures, it means nothing.
Extra slot = fingerprint reader?
Yes. You stick your finger in and MBP tastes it in order to check who the owner is.
So, what do you guys think? is it a slot, Philips, Torx, Hex or possibly a proprietary type? My guess is hex.
Unknown port on MBP casing....
Looking at the unknown port on the side of the MBP casing and the little round hole by the side, I wonder if this is to house a 3G sim and the hole will be like the Airport devices which show green for connected amber for standby etc.
An integrated 3G card would be cool on this device!!
Looking at the unknown port on the side of the MBP casing and the little round hole by the side, I wonder if this is to house a 3G sim and the hole will be like the Airport devices which show green for connected amber for standby etc.
An integrated 3G card would be cool on this device!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire#FireWire_S800T_.28IEEE_1394c-2006.29
Unless someone here knows more about this standard and doesn't tell, it's all this speculation is based on.
I don't understand why so many people seem to think a good laptop must have a fingerprint reader. Those things don't work half the time anyway...
Just to be clear, I don't mean the one covered by tape, I was referring to the hole right next to it.
Sebastian